About today’s Florida shooting

[dAVID_]

So how do you propose fixing America's "gun addiction"?

Let's analyze. What causes people to shoot other people?

• Anger.
• Enjoyment (sadism and psychopathy)
• Self defense

Let's see the first one: Anger.
If someone get very angry and shoots the person who irritates him/her, it's clearly because they are unfit for having a firearm? How would we fix this issue? Psychological examination. But if that person doesn't pass the test, he'll just get it illegaklly. Making regulations more strict leads to the exact same path.

Enjoyment:
We enter another problem. Psychopaths frequently go undetected, they are very skilled at passing by undetected, and are very calculating.
You'd need an extremely efficient psychological examination. One that could break any lie. Certainly a very skilled psychologist won't have a session with an entire country. So the answer? AIs.

 

[WeedZ]

So how do you propose fixing America's "gun addiction"?

Focus on healthcare and mental health

 

[the_randomizer]

Focus on healthcare and mental health

While not penalizing people who can't afford healthcare due to dire financial situations. Make it easier to access and then get the mental health evaluation and help people need. The healthcare system is broken, very very broken, and not financially viable for everyone.

 

[Noctosphere]

To all those who says "It wasn't predictable" Excuse me, but it was very predictable
with that soooo easy acces to military weapon, it's not surprising that it happens often
Plus, from what I heard at news, since the beginning of 2018, it's the 18th school shooting in usa

 

[WeedZ]

While not penalizing people who can't afford healthcare due to dire financial situations. Make it easier to access and then get the mental health evaluation and help people need. The healthcare system is broken, very very broken, and not financially viable for everyone.

The government should pay for healthcare. Especially if they want to make insurance mandatory.

 

[the_randomizer]

The government should pay for healthcare. Especially if they want to make insurance mandatory.

I'm glad they repealed the Obamacare penalty for 2018, that's for bloody sure.

 

[WeedZ]

I'm glad they repealed the Obamacare penalty for 2018, that's for bloody sure.

Oh fuck yeah. I liked every year when I filed taxes, luckily they never looked into it.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

The government should pay for healthcare. Especially if they want to make insurance mandatory.

The only way that that's possible is by raising taxes, unfortunately. However, they should have put the tax burden on the higher brackets, rather than including the lower-middle class

 

[the_randomizer]

The only way that that's possible is by raising taxes, unfortunately. However, they should have put the tax burden on the higher brackets, rather than including the lower-middle class

Don't they realize that we don't have a proper infrastructure for a decent universal healthcare system? Clearly not.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Don't they realize that we don't have a proper infrastructure for a decent universal healthcare system? Clearly not.

We honestly just need a complete overhaul of our tax system

 

[the_randomizer]

We honestly just need a complete overhaul of our tax system

That too, it's a joke.

Also can someone tell me why Chicago, and DC, two cities with strict gun laws, just so happen to have rampant issues with gun-related crimes? Surely, gun control isn't to blame, right?

 

[spinal_cord]

Also can someone tell me why Chicago, and DC, two cities with strict gun laws, just so happen to have rampant issues with gun-related crimes? Surely, gun control isn't to blame, right?

From what I here, your whole country has 'rampant issues with gun-related crimes' or else you wouldn't have a mass shooting every three days.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Also can someone tell me why Chicago, and DC, two cities with strict gun laws, just so happen to have rampant issues with gun-related crimes? Surely, gun control isn't to blame, right?

Fwiw, I'm not posting this agressively, I'm posting it because it's informational (check the whole thread):
Failed to fetch tweet https://twitter.com/AndyRichter/status/927353285245317120

 

[WeedZ]

The only way that that's possible is by raising taxes, unfortunately. However, they should have put the tax burden on the higher brackets, rather than including the lower-middle class

If the government paid for it the price for healthcare would drop dramatically. The US has high medical costs because insurance companies demand lower prices. Hospitals make prices outrageous so they can cut insurance companies a 'deal' on that outrageous price and still make profits. If the government took over payments, insurance wouldnt be necessary. The raise to taxes wouldnt be that much. And honestly, I'd be happier paying taxes for things like healthcare and education instead of military, which is at something like 80% of our tax dollars.

 

[Xzi]

Classy as always, Trump blames the classmates of the shooter for not reporting him to police:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...ers-classmates-for-failing-to-report-him.html

Meanwhile, at least one student said what we were probably all thinking: 'I don't want your condolences, you piece of s***' - Student slams Trump over gun control after 17 killed at Florida school'

https://www.independent.ie/world-ne...ter-17-killed-at-florida-school-36606766.html

 

[DeslotlCL]

Classy as always, Trump blames the classmates of the shooter for not reporting him to police:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...ers-classmates-for-failing-to-report-him.html

Meanwhile, at least one student said what we were probably all thinking: 'I don't want your condolences, you piece of s***' - Student slams Trump over gun control after 17 killed at Florida school'

https://www.independent.ie/world-ne...ter-17-killed-at-florida-school-36606766.html

Can you post the tweet of the student? Wanna read it and the comments.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Classy as always, Trump blames the classmates of the shooter for not reporting him to police:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...ers-classmates-for-failing-to-report-him.html

Meanwhile, at least one student said what we were probably all thinking: 'I don't want your condolences, you piece of s***' - Student slams Trump over gun control after 17 killed at Florida school'

https://www.independent.ie/world-ne...ter-17-killed-at-florida-school-36606766.html

My favorite is when some coward-ass piece of shit said "Someone want to tell Generation Z kids that in the event of a school shooting, they should call 911 instead of posting a picture of it on Snapchat" and that student responded with

17 people are dead. 17 of my classmates. This is how you fucking respond? How much of a heartless dick do you have to be to tweet something like this. And btw as we were running for our lives we were calling 911 to the point that they told us not to anymore. https://t.co/MQWae1mGwv

— Sarah Chadwick (@Sarahchadwickk) February 14, 2018

 

[WeedZ]

My favorite is when some coward-ass piece of shit said "Someone want to tell Generation Z kids that in the event of a school shooting, they should call 911 instead of posting a picture of it on Snapchat" and that student responded with
https://twitter.com/sarahmara16/status/963922899982782465

There were selfies and snapchats though.. that's kinda fucked up.

 

[DeslotlCL]

My favorite is when some coward-ass piece of shit said "Someone want to tell Generation Z kids that in the event of a school shooting, they should call 911 instead of posting a picture of it on Snapchat" and that student responded with
https://twitter.com/sarahmara16/status/963922899982782465

Whoa, just, woah... Sorry but some people there in the us are really fucked up.

 

[Olmectron]

Try to justify the fact that gun laws don't make the problem better. If someone wants to kill, they will. Talking about taking away a form of defense due to a crudely ignorant stance is fuel for the fire. The issue isn't "guns". Guns don't kill people. People kill people. "b-b-but they'll have to use a different weapon".. They'll still be using a fucking weapon. Even one life would be all it takes to fulfill his twisted desires. He's a mental case that went ignored for way too long.

Of course the easiest thing to blame is the non-issue. That's all people look at. That'll be the major point. "Why did he have a gun and how did he get it?" Not "How did he become so mentally ill and what can we do to help those in trouble?"

In Mexico, there are many deaths every day because of organized crime buying guns in the black market (guns are really restricted here for the average guy). This country is a bloodfest in many places. And the place is as corrupt that organized crime is the real government here.

But still, since 2000, there have been only 4 School Shootings incidents. With less than 10 deaths in total.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Mexico

Guns are the fricking problem in USA. Even if they are in the black market a lot, here in Mexico, with many crazy ill parented kids, we have a lot less of these incidents.

I feel bad for those who died in the incident. I really do. Everyone who says weapons available to nearly everyone is OK, please, think more about it.