Gaming Pokemon is probably coming this year

[HaloEliteLegend]

The same could be argued for every year after that. I do agree they need a heavy hitting title to push and promote the system so it continues to do well. However, everyone KNOWS a Pokemon game is coming. With Bayonetta seeing its way onto the system at some point between now and early next year, I'd assume it's safer to let that do its job. Pokemon is inevitable and when it comes it comes. Just think we'll see it within the 3rd year.

Not exactly. It's the first two years that are really crucial to building momentum and early trust between developers so as to set up a system for the entire rest of its life cycle. The Switch's 2nd year will be far more important than the ones after, if Nintendo plays their cards right. And Bayonetta doesn't sell systems. It's a very niche game. Platinum in general doesn't really get an insane number of sales. Pokemon, on the other hand, is the second most best-selling franchise in gaming history (second only to Mario), and something that can actually move systems. It's imperative that they get it out sooner rather than later, if we're to think from their perspective.

 

[Kioku]

Not exactly. It's the first two years that are really crucial to building momentum and early trust between developers so as to set up a system for the entire rest of its life cycle. The Switch's 2nd year will be far more important than the ones after, if Nintendo plays their cards right. And Bayonetta doesn't sell systems. It's a very niche game. Platinum in general doesn't really get an insane number of sales. Pokemon, on the other hand, is the second most best-selling franchise in gaming history (second only to Mario), and something that can actually move systems. It's imperative that they get it out sooner rather than later, if we're to think from their perspective.

I've yet to see a console where after the first year, any trust or rapport between a first and third party were heavily influenced. Bayonetta WILL sell systems. It may not be as well as say.. Pokemon or Metroid.. but it's still a game series (Not counting the 360) that many missed out on with the abomination that was the Wii U. It'll be a series that sparks intrigue and interest. I've not a doubt in mind that it will help move systems.

"Sooner than later" isn't true, either. The sooner they push, the more likely the overall quality of the game is going to be lower than expected. It's looking to have some damn high expectations given the hardware we're looking at.

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

I've yet to see a console where after the first year, any trust or rapport between a first and third party were heavily influenced. Bayonetta WILL sell systems. It may not be as well as say.. Pokemon or Metroid.. but it's still a game series (Not counting the 360) that many missed out on with the abomination that was the Wii U. It'll be a series that sparks intrigue and interest. I've not a doubt in mind that it will help move systems.

"Sooner than later" isn't true, either. The sooner they push, the more likely the overall quality of the game is going to be lower than expected. It's looking to have some damn high expectations given the hardware we're looking at.

I think they understand that the game has to be of quality. Nintendo's usually not one to let first-party games slip in polish. I have faith that they'll release it in a good state, but I feel they're pushing for a late 2018 release window. And once again, no, Bayonetta will sell systems just as good as Fire Emblem Warriors, which is to say, not much. Again, it's a niche franchise, and not the kind of game to single-handedly sell someone on the system. It'll definitely contribute to hardware sales, and to some people's decision to buy a Switch, but not on its own. I don't think so, at least. Would love to be proven wrong.

Going back to that second-year business, Nintendo's president himself has said that the Switch's second year will be crucial in determining the system's longevity. What we see isn't what goes on behind the scenes, especially among investors. Nintendo has more convincing to do than Microsoft or Sony as they were wholly abandoned by third parties after the Wii U flop. Every last bit of support counts for a platform, and I think Nintendo's management is smart to be maximizing their second-year momentum in order to court more developers and investors. That's why I believe they want Pokemon released this year, or as soon as possible.

 

[Kioku]

I think they understand that the game has to be of quality. Nintendo's usually not one to let first-party games slip in polish. I have faith that they'll release it in a good state, but I feel they're pushing for a late 2018 release window. And once again, no, Bayonetta will sell systems just as good as Fire Emblem Warriors, which is to say, not much. Again, it's a niche franchise, and not the kind of game to single-handedly sell someone on the system. It'll definitely contribute to hardware sales, and to some people's decision to buy a Switch, but not on its own. I don't think so, at least. Would love to be proven wrong.

Going back to that second-year business, Nintendo's president himself has said that the Switch's second year will be crucial in determining the system's longevity. What we see isn't what goes on behind the scenes, especially among investors. Nintendo has more convincing to do than Microsoft or Sony as they were wholly abandoned by third parties after the Wii U flop. Every last bit of support counts for a platform, and I think Nintendo's management is smart to be maximizing their second-year momentum in order to court more developers and investors. That's why I believe they want Pokemon released this year, or as soon as possible.

Fire Emblem Warriors is a poor counter argument. It's a generic hack n slash with a Fire Emblem reskin. Bayonetta 2 garnered a pretty healthy following after being a multiplat release. That's not to say it's on par with any major first party title. However, to have little faith in it is... Lacking... To say the least.

I've no doubt that Pokémon will be a huge success, my doubt lies in it being a 2nd year release title. We'll probably see Sm4sh (rerelease) come out well beforehand. However, it's speculation. I've only come to this conclusion given market conditions and the fact that Nintendo seems to rely on such a gap between true, new first/second party releases.

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

I've no doubt that Pokémon will be a huge success, my doubt lies in it being a 2nd year release title. We'll probably see Smash come out well beforehand. However, it's speculation. I've only come to this conclusion given market conditions and the fact that Nintendo seems to rely on such a gap between true, new first/second party releases.

Perhaps Pokemon might not be a second-year title, but I think it'll still come out well before a new Smash Bros. It was 7 years between Melee and Brawl, and 6 years between Brawl and Smash 4. I don't expect Smash 5 until 2020 sometime, if history repeats itself.

 

[OctolingRift]

It was always a no-brainer. We're for sure getting it this year

 

[Kioku]

Perhaps Pokemon might not be a second-year title, but I think it'll still come out well before a new Smash Bros. It was 7 years between Melee and Brawl, and 6 years between Brawl and Smash 4. I don't expect Smash 5 until 2020 sometime, if history repeats itself.

I meant to type sm4sh, but auto correct does weird things. There's quite a few rumors of yet another rerelease... This time it's aimed around an ultimate version of Smash 4 (WiiU/3DS).

 

[Eddypikachu]

I hope you're right. That plus the Bayonetta trilogy are enough to make this year awesome for Switch alone. Smash would work too.

Bayonetta 3 will most definitely not come out this year, after the initial teaser trailer is revealed for a bayo game it always takes 2+ years for the actual game to be released, this has been the case for the past two games

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

I meant to type sm4sh, but auto correct does weird things. There's quite a few rumors of yet another rerelease... This time it's aimed around an ultimate version of Smash 4 (WiiU/3DS).

Oh yeah, there were rumors about that. I personally think that it'd be better for them to release a new Smash. I'm already wondering if they'll release a new Mario Kart, seeing as they already have MK8 Deluxe and they usually only do one Mario Kart per console. I'd hope there's a Smash 5 somewhere in the future and a port of Smash 4 isn't all the Switch is left with.

 

[Xzi]

Bayonetta 3 will most definitely not come out this year, after the initial teaser trailer is revealed for a bayo game it always takes 2+ years for the actual game to be released, this has been the case for the past two games

Well, at least 1 and 2, and then new Valkyria Chronicles from Sega as well, so still good.

 

[gameboy]

The same could be argued for every year after that. I do agree they need a heavy hitting title to push and promote the system so it continues to do well. However, everyone KNOWS a Pokemon game is coming. With Bayonetta seeing its way onto the system at some point between now and early next year, I'd assume it's safer to let that do its job. Pokemon is inevitable and when it comes it comes. Just think we'll see it within the 3rd year.

Not everyone 'knows' Pokémon IS coming (weird... The fire7 tablet knew how to auto correct Pokémon). I fore sure didn't. It could just be Sun/Moon all over or Red/Blue. There was rumor of a pokemon Z, and a cartoon came out but the game never did which left zygarde completely useless. Sun/moon seemed more like a little side quest rather than a real Pokemon game with 4 islands and 4 trainers. Not a fan of the Z moves but I got to the part where you capture dimensions pokemon then the cart got lost in a move out.

 

[InsaneNutter]

It was over 2 and a half years after the 3DS launch to when Pokemon X / Y landed. However the DS had been out a year and 9 months before Diamond and Pearl launched in Japan, so I guess if a new Pokemon game launched in time for Christmas this year it would be a similar time frame, so not out the question.

Given such little effort went in to Ultra Sun and Moon and it's essentially a re-release of Sun and Moon with some minor changes that would suggest a lot of GameFreaks resources are been pushed in to the Switch title. I just hope its something new, not another re-release of Sun and Moon.

 

[pedro702]

It was over 2 and a half years after the 3DS launch to when Pokemon X / Y landed. However the DS had been out a year and 9 months before Diamond and Pearl launched in Japan, so I guess if a new Pokemon game launched in time for Christmas this year it would be a similar time frame, so not out the question.

Given such little effort went in to Ultra Sun and Moon and it's essentially a re-release of Sun and Moon with some minor changes that would suggest a lot of GameFreaks resources are been pushed in to the Switch title. I just hope its something new, not another re-release of Sun and Moon.

yeah i dont see why the entire team was needed for the very few changes they made, they probably had a big chunk of the team already doing new pokemons, story and maps and such for the next release while making ultra moon and sun.

 

[Kioku]

Not everyone 'knows' Pokémon IS coming (weird... The fire7 tablet knew how to auto correct Pokémon). I fore sure didn't. It could just be Sun/Moon all over or Red/Blue. There was rumor of a pokemon Z, and a cartoon came out but the game never did which left zygarde completely useless. Sun/moon seemed more like a little side quest rather than a real Pokemon game with 4 islands and 4 trainers. Not a fan of the Z moves but I got to the part where you capture dimensions pokemon then the cart got lost in a move out.

A mainline Pokémon game was stated to be in development. So, if you don't know, you live under a rock.

 

[evandixon]

Based on past trends, I think it's far too soon for a new main series game. It's not even been two years since Gen 7 came out. If we do get more Pokemon, perhaps it'd be Pokemon Mystery Dungeon? Spike Chunsoft is a confirmed Switch developer, and if the release date is at the end of this year, it would be 3 years since the last one, which continues the usual PMD release trend.

 

[SoslanVanWieren]

They would of had to started development in 2014 for it to come out this year plus game freak aren't used to making pokemon games for hardware like the switch.

 

[gameboy]

They would of had to started development in 2014 for it to come out this year plus game freak aren't used to making pokemon games for hardware like the switch.

sun/moon sold a ton because it ditched the chii style, but xy oras and sm had decent 3d models. the wireframe of pikipek shown looked too complicated for 3ds.

 

[SoslanVanWieren]

still they aren't going to rush the game out if they can't get it done by November this year. They don't know if they are going to have the game done by the end of this year thats why it says 2018 or later and it will probably be pushed to late 2019 if its not done by this year .because of holiday sales. they like to release there games not far away from Christmas. If. the game does not get announced this month is probably not coming out this year new generations are announced early in the year to hype up the game.

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Perhaps Pokemon might not be a second-year title, but I think it'll still come out well before a new Smash Bros. It was 7 years between Melee and Brawl, and 6 years between Brawl and Smash 4. I don't expect Smash 5 until 2020 sometime, if history repeats itself.

they will probably just port the old one with some new characters and all the dlc and stages from the 3ds and wiiu versions because of how bad the wii u sold.

 

[Jayro]

I think we're getting the Sinnoh remakes first, THEN gen 8 in fall of 2019.

 

[OctolingRift]

I think we're getting the Sinnoh remakes first, THEN gen 8 in fall of 2019.

They said the last 3DS games (Main series Pokémon) were Ultra. They're not gonna put Sinnoh before 8th gen because they never change consoles mid gen