Net Neutrality: what it is, and why you should care

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UPDATE: It's been voted for repeal. The FCC took Net Neutrality to a vote, and it was 3-2, in favor of repeal. This doesn't mean overnight upheaval, but things will certainly change, for better or worse, in due time.
If you've been on the internet at all the past week, there's a high chance that you've heard of something called "Net Neutrality", and you've also likely heard that there might be huge changes to your usage of the internet entirely. This post serves as a quick information briefing on what Net Neutrality is, what could happen if it's repealed, and the current events going on regarding it, and just general visibility to let the community in general be informed.

What is this Net Neutrality thing?



The basic definition of network neutrality is simple: all internet traffic is considered and treated equally. It was established just a bit under three years ago, in February 2015. It prevented companies like Comcast Xfinity and AT&T U-verse from speeding up, or slowing down certain sites based upon content. If you remember, back in July 2017, mobile provider Verizon admitted to targeting Netflix traffic, and specifically throttling it, negatively affecting customers' use of Netflix. Going back to 2014, there were also issues with Comcast customers, and, that's right, Netflix users, as connections to Netflix were notoriously slow. Netflix then entered a legal deal with Comcast, in order to have Netflix connections be faster than they previously were. The 2014 incident was pre-net neutrality, and shows that before the law was enacted, certain sites like Netflix were indeed slowed, and had to specifically bargain with large telecommunication monopolies like Comcast to get fair speeds out to their customers.

In April 2017, the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), Ajit Pai, revealed that he had plans to repeal net neutrality. It's worth noting that Pai was once the Associate General Counsel of Verizon Communications, an incredibly high up position with an ISP, who we've stated before as having throttled websites in the past.

Pai's statements on the matter included saying such things as "[the government] would be able to stop micromanaging the internet" and that the FCC and internet service providers would simply have to be "transparent about their practices so that consumers can buy a service plan that's best for them". Shortly after, Comcast began vocally supporting these statements, claiming that government regulation of the internet has been harming innovation and investments of Comcast. David Cohen, the company's Chief Diversity Officer, said that "customers would be clearly informed on our practices [...] Comcast maintains that it does and will not block, throttle, or discriminate against lawful content".

Within the movement for repealing net neutrality, also comes with power being given to the Federal Trade Commission. The FTC would then have the ability to legally charge internet service providers that were not made clear to customers.

You may notice, that within any of the claims made by Pai or Comcast, that equal traffic was never made the focus, instead putting emphasis on making sure these monopolies must be clear and transparent about what they do, but never laying down any solid rules about what they need to be transparent about or why. And, of course, if the FTC were to go after AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, Time Warner, or other assorted companies for not being transparent, these legal cases would find themselves taking years to make their way to court, allowing for them to have their way with their customers until a definitive legal ruling. Therein lies the first batch of unease and controversy with the repeal.

In short, net neutrality is a fairly new regulation, which allows for equal traffic between all sites while using the internet. The chairman of the FCC and former higher-up of Verizon wants to repeal it, however. This would allow less government interference with ISPs, but would also allow those ISPs to do what they wish, so long as they're "transparent".

Does repealing Net Neutrality have any benefits?


Spoiler alert: not really

From the inception of the internet, and up until 2015, Americans have gone without net neutrality. Ajit Pai claims that should we not have net neutrality anymore, more rural areas would be able to have more companies and providers, and it would allow for more competition and choice for the consumer. However, these smaller companies would also have to fight it out with established services, with years of experience and infrastructure refinements.

As a side note, I've spent thirty minutes researching a potential "pro" argument. I've not found many that seem reasonable. I've listed in the spoiler tag below arguments from other websites and blogs.

Green Garage Blog: While net neutrality allows for freedom of speech, the downside is that almost anything can be posted to the internet. This means that the cruelest or insensitive information imaginable can end up on the internet, and as a result, it can cause a lot of problems from people that otherwise wouldn’t be prone to being under the microscope of criticism. This means that people can post cruel, intimidating, or other harassing messages and often get away with it thanks to free speech legislation. So it can be a very toxic environment for a lot of people to put up with.

Vittana: Reduced income from internet uses limits infrastructure improvements.
There are certain businesses and high-use individuals who consume large amounts of bandwidth every month. If net neutrality was removed, these high-level consumers would be asked to pay more for what they consume. This added income could then be used to upgrade the infrastructure of each internet service provider, making it possible for advanced fiber networks to be installed in many communities.

AEI: But in many instances, fast lanes, zero-rating, and the like benefit customers. In separate research, both former FCC Chief Economist Michael Katz (with Ben Hermalin) and I (with Janice Hauge) showed that fast lanes benefit small content providers in their attempts to compete with established industry leaders. AEI scholar Roslyn Layton has shown that elderly and low-income consumers benefit from zero-rating services.

Basically, the only benefit would be if America's current economy wasn't dominated by monopolistic ISPs. Below is an interview with Ajit Pai, showing his perspective.


Scrapping these rules, Pai told Reason's Nick Gillespie, won't harm consumers or the public interest because there was no reason for them in the first place. The rationales were mere "phantoms that were conjured up by people who wanted the FCC for political reasons to overregulate the internet," Pai told Gillespie. "We were not living in a digital dystopia in the years leading up to 2015."

If left in place, however, the Title II rules could harm the commercial internet, which Pai described as "one of the most incredible free market innovations in history."

"Companies like Google and Facebook and Netflix became household names precisely because we didn't have the government micromanaging how the internet would operate," said Pai, who noted that the Clinton-era decision not to regulate the Internet like a phone utility or a broadcast network was one of the most important factors in the rise of our new economy.

Pai also pushed back against claims that he's a right-wing radical who's "fucking things up."

"[I ascribe to] the very radical, right-wing position that the Clinton administration basically got it right when it came to digital infrastructure."


What happens if/when this gets repealed, and what does this mean for you?



The worst part of this, is that there's no definitive answer of what WILL happen, only what CAN happen. What has people concerned, though, is the potential things that larger ISPs can do with this new power, should net neutrality be repealed. Internet service providers could slow access to specific sites, and speed up others, in theory, others specifically being sites who pay ISPs for faster access, and those partnered or in contracts with ISPs. Websites like Google, Amazon, Reddit, Etsy, Netflix, and many more have all broadcast their support of net neutrality, stating that without these rules in place thanks to net neutrality, internet providers would become gatekeepers to the internet, restricting what customers can see. Without definitive government restrictions, these companies could be free to split access to the internet into packages, like cable TV, indeed making true on the intention of lowering the cost of internet access, but also making it more difficult and expensive to see all of the internet, as you can right now.

Likely, what will happen, though everything is up in the air, is that certain ISPs will utilize what's called "fast lanes" and "zero rating". Fast lanes are sort of like what we talked about at the start, with Netflix and Comcast. Currently, these fast lanes and zero rating are used with mobile phone data. AT&T customers can watch DirecTV (owned by AT&T) via their mobile data, without it counting towards their monthly cap. These rules could be applied to home internet as well; if you're a Comcast user, and you want to watch Hulu (owned by NBC-Universal-Comcast), maybe your connection to Hulu will be lightning fast, thanks to these theoretical fast lanes, and they won't go towards your Comcast monthly 1 Terabyte home cap. But what if you want to watch Netflix? Either Netflix will have much lower picture quality, or take a longer time to connect to. And if Netflix pays a fee, or gets into a contract once again with Comcast, then that potentially means that Netflix's increased costs move down to the consumer, who also now has to pay more for a service as well.

What can we do?



The only thing left to do is let your voice be heard. Social media has exploded without people decrying the impending repeal of net neutrality, and the negatives that it would entail, to the point of where the majority of Reddit has been plastered with net neutrality posts.

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The FCC will take the repeal to a vote on December 14, 2017. It is highly predicted that the repeal will pass, and net neutrality will come to an end. Millions have taken to the site "battleforthenet" and "callmycongress" to contact their local representatives and congressmen in order to show that American citizens don't want net neutrality destroyed.

You can learn more at the links below. Hopefully this is helpful in describing what net neutrality is, and why it shouldn't be taken away.

:arrow:Techcrunch: These are the arguments against net neutrality and why they're wrong

:arrow: Extra Credits: What a closed internet means

:arrow:Phillip DeFranco: The Internet is under attack

:arrow:Save the internet: What you need to know


:arrow:Ars Technica: RIP net neutrality
 

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In all actuality, if internet providers raise prices, then they will lose customers. When they lose customers they will lower the prices and get them back...
That'd be nice, but people are dumb. Here's what the big ISPs will actually do:

Lower the initial monthly price for internet. Then break off sets of websites into "fast lane packages." The "essentials" pack will be $20 a month on top of your initial $30 a month. Want some video and audio streaming at a decent rate? Another $20 a month. Want good enough bandwidth for online gaming? Another $20 a month. And so on. Big providers have not been shy about wanting to treat their internet service more like TV service.
 

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@SonowRaevius I meant that the lack of internet wouldn't affect us. People would actually have to go up to a business they wanted to be employed at and ask for an application, they would actually have to talk with people in real life. We wouldn't have kids killing themselves due to cyber bullying.
Nope, just regular bullying.

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That'd be nice, but people are dumb. Here's what the big ISPs will actually do:

Lower the initial monthly price for internet. Then break off sets of websites into "fast lane packages." The "essentials" pack will be $20 a month on top of your initial $30 a month. Want some video and audio streaming at a decent rate? Another $20 a month. Want good enough bandwidth for online gaming? Another $20 a month. And so on. Big providers have not been shy about wanting to treat their internet service more like TV service.
Alright. You stated it as fact. Source please? I'm neutral on NN as it does nothing for me either way it swings in terms of content.
 
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Nope, just regular bullying.
Yeah, but at least without the internet you can curl up and hide somewhere. Nowadays, every kid is attached to their phone and the internet and will get destroyed if someone starts to attack them online.

I sound so old lol :P
 
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That'd be nice, but people are dumb. Here's what the big ISPs will actually do:

Lower the initial monthly price for internet. Then break off sets of websites into "fast lane packages." The "essentials" pack will be $20 a month on top of your initial $30 a month. Want some video and audio streaming at a decent rate? Another $20 a month. Want good enough bandwidth for online gaming? Another $20 a month. And so on. Big providers have not been shy about wanting to treat their internet service more like TV service.
Well you have always got McDonalds WiFi... Oh wait, that will be gone too.
 

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Well when you show me something harmful instead of "everything you believe is harmful" I'll take you seriously but so far it's sourceless, citationless comments and shitflinging. I'd expect this kind of arguing style from a teen but not from someone calling himself an adult.
You're the one with the belief that government can only do harm, yet you refuse to believe they might somehow be trying to harm us with repeal. OTOH, Comcast is one of the most hated companies in America with one of the worst track records, and you're willing to take everything they say at face value. Perhaps your standard of scrutiny needs a little fine-tuning.
 
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Yeah, but at least without the internet you can curl up and hide somewhere. Nowadays, every kid is attached to their phone and the internet and will get destroyed if someone starts to attack them online.
Yeah... I am 14 and I don't have a phone OR internet. BUT I have school internet... would the school be affected? Stupid Government.
 
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No, the school wouldn't be affected. Those are their own entities. That's why they can still censor sites now.
Well... our school has free guest WiFi... Everyone will hangout in the school parking lot. Oh and when you say "censor sites", do you mean block them? I can always use the Tor Browser. OR A VPN
 
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You're the one with the belief that government can only do harm, yet you refuse to believe they might somehow be trying to harm us with repeal. OTOH, Comcast is one of the most hated companies in America with one of the worst track records, and you're willing to take everything they say at face value. Perhaps your standard of scrutiny needs a little fine-tuning.
When have I said the government can only do harm? The most I said was that there are clear conspiracies and stupid shit they do but it doesn't mean they're all harmful. Not all governments are tyrannical, contrary to the belief of paranoid stoners. Nor have I said they're harming anyone with the repeal. The fuck are you talking about? Perhaps you're too emotionally damaged from this repeal. You should lie down. Get some rest.

Said company has pledged to obey the regulations put forth by the proposal, and should they violate this or even retract it, guess what? Boom. Lawsuit.
So since you don't trust the government to pick their noses, why is it you trusted them to make regulations in 2014 that are notorious for being circumvented? We've established that they were flawed and had loop holes, and yet you've doubled down on whatever the propaganda tells you to think when confronted with this fact.
 
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@SonowRaevius I meant that the lack of internet wouldn't affect us. People would actually have to go up to a business they wanted to be employed at and ask for an application, they would actually have to talk with people in real life. We wouldn't have kids killing themselves due to cyber bullying.
I still have to go in for the interview and talk to the people....maybe that part just slipped your mind too, I daresay.

But hey since you have that regressive attitude, why don't we get rid of what broke up Bell System services as well, because that was REALLY working out well for people too, I mean...no one NEEDS a phone in this day and age either right?

Society has changed since the 80's and 90's, just because it wasn't something important or needed back in those days doesn't mean it isn't need in these days as well.

The internet provides job listings as well for those that need it in more lucrative areas, otherwise people with degrees even in computer sciences would have trouble finding a job in certain areas.

Corporations are not your friends, stop trying to protect them and act like they are some holy beacon when history has proven that they and their heads give 0 fucks about you, these are people that would reinstate child labor laws and get rid of unions if they could have their ways.
 
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When have I said the government can only do harm? The most I said was that there are clear conspiracies and stupid shit they do but it doesn't mean they're all harmful. Not all governments are tyrannical, contrary to the belief of paranoid stoners. Nor have I said they're harming anyone with the repeal. The fuck are you talking about? Perhaps you're too emotionally damaged from this repeal. You should lie down. Get some rest.

Said company has pledged to obey the regulations put forth by the proposal, and should they violate this or even retract it, guess what? Boom. Lawsuit.
So since you don't trust the government to pick their noses, why is it you trusted them to make regulations in 2014 that are notorious for being circumvented? We've established that they were flawed and had loop holes, and yet you've doubled down on whatever the propaganda tells you to think when confronted with this fact.
Your own pic you keep sharing says only SOME have pledged, and the fcc MIGHT choose to take action if they violate that pledge. They might also choose to not.
 

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When have I said the government can only do harm?
It was like one of your very first replies, and then you continued to argue that you'd rather have the internet in the hands of Comcast and TWC than the government.

Said company has pledged to obey the regulations put forth by the proposal, and should they violate this or even retract it, guess what? Boom. Lawsuit.
The only regulation that mattered is being taken away with Title II, and that's equal priority for all internet traffic. I don't care what other regulations ISPs have to follow, because they're still free to raise rates and throttle anything they want once Net Neutrality repeal goes through.

So since you don't trust the government to pick their noses, why is it you trusted them to make regulations in 2014 that are notorious for being circumvented? We've established that they were flawed and had loop holes, and yet you've doubled down on whatever the propaganda tells you to think when confronted with this fact.
There are no loopholes ISPs can exploit under Title II, they've tried. Which is also part of why they want it repealed. If they were just "making the regulations better," they could simply amend things under Title II.
 
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It was like one of your very first replies, and then you continued to argue that you'd rather have the internet in the hands of Comcast and TWC than the government.


The only regulation that mattered is being taken away with Title II, and that's equal priority for all internet traffic. I don't care what other regulations ISPs have to follow, because they're still free to raise rates and throttle anything they want once Net Neutrality repeal goes through.


There are no loopholes ISPs can exploit under Title II, they've tried. Which is also part of why they want it repealed. If they were just "making the regulations better," they could simply amend things under Title II.
Then you can link me that reply, surely.

"The only regulation that mattered is being taken away with Title II"
I guess throttling, blocking, and data packages don't matter now. Okay buddy.

>THERE ARE NO LOOPHOLES
Now that's a good laugh.
https://readplaintext.com/why-the-fcc-s-net-neutrality-rules-could-unravel-cc26c6b96418
Posting this again, while they'd have a lot more legal examination, they could still do shit like throttle, and as I've posted in other links, *still did.*

So uh...what was Title II protecting us from again?
 
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When have I said the government can only do harm? The most I said was that there are clear conspiracies and stupid shit they do but it doesn't mean they're all harmful. Not all governments are tyrannical, contrary to the belief of paranoid stoners. Nor have I said they're harming anyone with the repeal. The fuck are you talking about? Perhaps you're too emotionally damaged from this repeal. You should lie down. Get some rest.

Said company has pledged to obey the regulations put forth by the proposal, and should they violate this or even retract it, guess what? Boom. Lawsuit.
So since you don't trust the government to pick their noses, why is it you trusted them to make regulations in 2014 that are notorious for being circumvented? We've established that they were flawed and had loop holes, and yet you've doubled down on whatever the propaganda tells you to think when confronted with this fact.

No, only some of them have pledged not to and said pledge not legally binding and isn't worth the paper it isn't printed on. You really need to read up on contract law sometime.

Think about it, why would they spend millions of dollars to repeal NN if they didn't intend to take advantage of it? Why is that question so hard for you to answer?
 
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No, only some of them have pledged not to and said pledge not legally binding and isn't worth the paper it isn't printed on. You really need to read up on contract law sometime.

Think about it, why would they spend millions of dollars to repeal NN if they didn't intend to take advantage of it? Why is that question so hard for you to answer?
Doesn't matter, they're gonna be held to those standards regardless.

Get me some figures that show how much is actually lobbied here. Now get me some figures that show everything they want in the proposal has actually made it, because the FCC has actually straight up said, for example, AT&T's request to make it so we can never go back to Title II regulations was unnecessary and that they wanted to keep Title II as an option. I don't know about you but lobbyists not getting 100% of what they want gives me a bit of faith that this isn't just some nonsense, and again, why the fuck would they make a huge ass, 210 page proposal full of new regulations on transparency, anticompetitive practices, anti trust violations, and so on if they wanted to not have any rules at all?

The discrepancy between what the FCC is actually proposing and what the fear mongers think is too big
 

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