Las Vegas Shooting

[Olmectron]

This is simply so sad.

I wish every weapon in the planet disappeared and instead, every person with really really bad intentions just died of a heart attack before commiting their crimes. That way, who'd need weapons?

Sad for everyone involved. I'll pray for each and every of the victims and their families.

PS. For those talking about generalizations here, when a thread about the wall Trump wants to build so that Mexican criminals stay the other side, and that Mexico pays for it, some comments did really, really hurt. Some people saying "all Mexicans are criminals and addicts", "Mexico as a country must pay because they send their trash to our country", and some other nasty things from users I never thought would have such generalized ideas about us. I'm not defending anyone, I think the other Mexican flag user is being completely rude, but I've seen generalizations before here in the Temp, and I never saw that thread menaced to be closed, even when multiple very rude comments against a country.

 

[aykay55]

sorry about this post

read the one two above

 

[RustInPeace]

This shooting was exactly like the killing of John F. Kennedy.

What? I don't think Lee Harvey Oswald had as many guns as Stephen Paddock, one important political figure against hundreds of people for probably less of a reason than JFK. There's loads of differences, and with this shooting, I know gun control is easy to blame, but it's astonishing that this man bought a crap ton of guns. Regardless of the seller saying he passed background checks, it's suspect that nobody looked at his purchasing history, his purchasing list, and question the reasons for having so many weapons. I mean, avid gun collector? Okay, but at least ask to make sure. Also the hotel thing, how did all those guns make it into the man's hotel room? Negligible security?

And since this guy can never be interrogated for motives and stuff, the immediate future will gradually feature facts about his past, trying to understand why he "turned." Your post informs that we should come together and think of what we have and what we can lose. I interpret that as thinking about oneself. That's the last thing to do with this situation, I'm thinking more how, why with this person, as well as what should be done about this, what will be done about this, and condolences and sympathy for the victims. To generalize one of your statements, I agree that this is a time of reflection, I just have other things to reflect about, as already stated.

 

[aykay55]

You guys don't seem to understand the fact that anyone can turn to anything at any time. I could have a gun for 15 years and not have a drip of crime on my record, and go to my local supermarket and start shooting. Just because you don't have a criminal record doesn't mean your good, but it doesn't mean your bad, either. Laws and rules are followed as long as the government is feared, see how North Korea does it? There will always be bad people on this Earth, so I ask you, GBATemp community, to come with me to Mars . But seriously, doesn't matter the country, the background, the personality, the color, we are all kind and we are all evil. If anyone is given too much power they will abuse it. If anyone is given too much money they will want more. However, understand this. Things can't exist without their opposites. Inside wouldn't exist without outside. Cold wouldn't exist without heat. Happiness couldn't exist without sadness. If you were never sad you would never truly be happy. You would become bored. You wouldn't know what it would feel like to have less. You would take everything and become a snobby, obnoxious, jerk-face 5 year old. This is why events like this happen. To remind us of what it is truly like to lose something, especially human lives. We can never get them back. They're gone forever. I don't want to depress everyone but this is something you can't lie about. This is a time for us Tempers to come together and think of what we have and what we can lose. Hope you guys learned something from this extremely long post. FYI, hotels like that don't have metal detectors, so anyone can bring anything inside. Important hotels do. This shooting was exactly like the killing of John F. Kennedy. A gunman shot 2 bullets from a tall building and killed JFK. He was arrested and shot and killed by another man the same way during a prison transfer. Also, ISIS claims responsibilty for every unexplainable shooting to strike fear into people.

What? I don't think Lee Harvey Oswald had as many guns as Stephen Paddock, one important political figure against hundreds of people for probably less of a reason than JFK. There's loads of differences, and with this shooting, I know gun control is easy to blame, but it's astonishing that this man bought a crap ton of guns. Regardless of the seller saying he passed background checks, it's suspect that nobody looked at his purchasing history, his purchasing list, and question the reasons for having so many weapons. I mean, avid gun collector? Okay, but at least ask to make sure. Also the hotel thing, how did all those guns make it into the man's hotel room? Negligible security?

And since this guy can never be interrogated for motives and stuff, the immediate future will gradually feature facts about his past, trying to understand why he "turned." Your post informs that we should come together and think of what we have and what we can lose. I interpret that as thinking about oneself. That's the last thing to do with this situation, I'm thinking more how, why with this person, as well as what should be done about this, what will be done about this, and condolences and sympathy for the victims. To generalize one of your statements, I agree that this is a time of reflection, I just have other things to reflect about, as already stated.

FYI, there is NO security in most hotels. Some hotels have metal detectors inside the entrances or right after, but not Marriot or Courtyard or most others. There is usually a cop there though, so if you see someone in a hotel with a gun be sure to tell the front desk.

 

[RustInPeace]

FYI, there is NO security in most hotels. Some hotels have metal detectors inside the entrances or right after, but not Marriot or Courtyard or most others. There is usually a cop there though, so if you see someone in a hotel with a gun be sure to tell the front desk.

Okay, thanks for the Smokey the Bear tip, but the place the guy was shooting at was from the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, surely there has to be security there? His bags weren't check? I said earlier in the thread about being like Captain Hindsight from South Park, posing such questions, because I feel like this could've been prevented. Or at least in the future, tragic that it comes at the expense of hundreds of victims.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Okay, thanks for the Smokey the Bear tip, but the place the guy was shooting at was from the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, surely there has to be security there? His bags weren't check? I said earlier in the thread about being like Captain Hindsight from South Park, posing such questions, because I feel like this could've been prevented. Or at least in the future, tragic that it comes at the expense of hundreds of victims.

I 95% guarantee nothing will change, and we all know why

 

[Subtle Demise]

Are you saying that inherintly aggressive people require weaponry to function properly in society?.......

No but many probably require some kind of prescription drug that's been made unobtainable by the likes of the DEA, as an example.

And speaking of that: why do these maniacs always target innocents rather than corrupt politicians or business executives? It would at least make more sense then.

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

You got me good.
But yeah, some people here don't generalize and I've had some pretty good conversations with them, but some others (occasionally including myself) do generalize and act like turds.

Haha, no worries dude, I'm guilty too

 

[TotalInsanity4]

No but many probably require some kind of prescription drug that's been made unobtainable by the likes of the DEA, as an example.

And speaking of that: why do these maniacs always target innocents rather than corrupt politicians or business executives? It would at least make more sense then.

What does any of this have to do with your analogy that restricting gun ownership is like caging a lion

 

[Quantumcat]

Yup, there's a lot of generalization on the temp, dare I say it's one of the temps worst diseases/ problems atm? I've seen it with religion, certain viewpoints, and politics way too many times on here. Most people that do say crap about a certain country don't even belong to that country.

It makes sense that the people talking crap about the USA are all outside it. The people inside are brainwashed to believe the USA is the greatest and it is OK that all these awful things happen because they have "freedom". When they are told that all these awful things are not normal, by people on the outside, they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalalalala".

 

[RustInPeace]

It makes sense that the people talking crap about the USA are all outside it. The people inside are brainwashed to believe the USA is the greatest and it is OK that all these awful things happen because they have "freedom". When they are told that all these awful things are not normal, by people on the outside, they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalalalala".

I can't tell if you're serious or not. Last I checked, I wasn't diagnosed with some mental condition where in layman's terms, it's considered me being brainwashed to believe the USA is the greatest, being a lifelong resident by the way.

 

[Kioku]

It makes sense that the people talking crap about the USA are all outside it. The people inside are brainwashed to believe the USA is the greatest and it is OK that all these awful things happen because they have "freedom". When they are told that all these awful things are not normal, by people on the outside, they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalalalala".

Have you noticed that not one US based temper has done that? Or are you too stuck in your biased ignorance to pay any attention?

This is why i think politics on the temp should be a bannable offense. It brings out some of the worst ignorance I've seen.

 

[aykay55]

I can't tell if you're serious or not. Last I checked, I wasn't diagnosed with some mental condition where in layman's terms, it's considered me being brainwashed to believe the USA is the greatest, being a lifelong resident by the way.

Btw, it's lamence terms, not layman's terms

 

[rileysrjay]

It makes sense that the people talking crap about the USA are all outside it. The people inside are brainwashed to believe the USA is the greatest and it is OK that all these awful things happen because they have "freedom". When they are told that all these awful things are not normal, by people on the outside, they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalalalala".

Um, I hope this post is joking. You kinda just did the whole generalizing a country by being an outsider thing I just mentioned. Plus there's people here on the temp that call the US's issues out all the time that are from within the U.S., so we aren't all "brainwashed" as you say.

 

[aykay55]

It makes sense that the people talking crap about the USA are all outside it. The people inside are brainwashed to believe the USA is the greatest and it is OK that all these awful things happen because they have "freedom". When they are told that all these awful things are not normal, by people on the outside, they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalalalala".

Yeah, like @Memoir said, the US is not perfect but it's doing better than others. Besides, you guys still believe the roads are paved with gold.

 

[Kioku]

Um, I hope this post is joking. You kinda just did the whole generalizing a country by being an outsider thing I just mentioned. Plus there's people here on the temp that call the US's issues out all the time that are from within the U.S., so we aren't all "brainwashed" as you say.

$10 says he's trolling and we're taking it too seriously. Rawr!

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Btw, it's lamence terms, not layman's terms

It's layman's terms. ><

 

[RustInPeace]

Btw, it's lamence terms, not layman's terms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_English

 

[aykay55]

Lol, my beautiful lengthy post I worked 20 minutes on has gotten lost on the previous page. http://gbatemp.net/threads/las-vegas-shooting.485680/page-5#post-7612789 for anyone who cares to see me lecture like a priest.

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It's layman's terms. ><

I stand corrected. That's what I've been taught all my life. But it means the exact same thing.

 

[Quantumcat]

Um, I hope this post is joking. You kinda just did the whole generalizing a country by being an outsider thing I just mentioned. Plus there's people here on the temp that call the US's issues out all the time that are from within the U.S., so we aren't all "brainwashed" as you say.

Probably there are some who have woken up. I haven't seen anyone outside the US attempt to defend the lack of gun laws though. That's unique to US residents.

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

It makes sense that the people talking crap about the USA are all outside it. The people inside are brainwashed to believe the USA is the greatest and it is OK that all these awful things happen because they have "freedom". When they are told that all these awful things are not normal, by people on the outside, they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalalalala".

*facepalm*
It's very clear you are not an American. Please do not speak for others or generalize such a large country that's so diverse in culture, thinking, and beliefs. Additionally, you are conflating patriotism with ignorance (your words: "brainwash"ing). I'm very patriotic yet I'll unapologetically call out this country's crap. This isn't a zero sum game.