Homebrew Official Retroarch WiiU (wip.)

[Dave_Chad]

300 pages is quite daunting to read i'm just wondering how well this runs and what the limits are. Is it better than a PoC? Is it something stable to use for emulation on lower end consoles?

 

[Deleted member 424658]

Anyone know if there's plans into working on getting the BGB core working any time soon?

 

[Triangular]

300 pages is quite daunting to read i'm just wondering how well this runs and what the limits are. Is it better than a PoC? Is it something stable to use for emulation on lower end consoles?

NES, SNES, Genesis, TG-16, Neo Geo, CPS1/2/3 all run beautifully.

 

[the_randomizer]

NES, SNES, Genesis, TG-16, Neo Geo, CPS1/2/3 all run beautifully.

I wouldn't expect any other consoles past that to run the same, personally speaking.








so much for the bounty

 

[cucholix]

I wouldn't expect any other consoles past that to run the same, personally speaking.








so much for the bounty

Doesn't RA actually only uses the CPU but not off load task to GX2? I think it's quite impressive that it runs in native 1080p if it's only using the CPU.

 

[the_randomizer]

Doesn't RA actually only uses the CPU but not off load task to GX2? I think it's quite impressive that it runs in native 1080 if it's only using the CPU.

Emulation by nature relies mostly on the CPU to translate the code, i.e Snes CPU architecture to Wii U PPC, etc. and some is offloaded by the GPU. The problem is some emulators need dynarec or dynamic recompiling to run more complex emulators. I set up a bounty for that, but *sigh*.

 

[cucholix]

Emulation by nature relies mostly on the CPU to translate the code, i.e Snes CPU architecture to Wii U PPC, etc. and some is offloaded by the GPU. The problem is some emulators need dynarec or dynamic recompiling to run more complex emulators. I set up a bounty for that, but *sigh*.

Wii manage to run some PSX games at full speed IIRC, Wii U derivative PPC shouldn't have problems to run beyond that, in dynarec obviously, interpreter never lol.

 

[the_randomizer]

Wii manage to run some PSX games at full speed IIRC, Wii U derivative PPC shouldn't have problems to run beyond that, in dynarec obviously, interpreter never lol.

Power and potential isn't the issue, the Wii U has plenty of raw power to run the PSX games even better than the Wii did, the problem is there is no one that we know of who is interested in porting over or writing a new PPC core. It's a nightmare to code in PPC and GX2, so, yeah, I just don't see it happening. Maybe someone could ask the WiiSX-R developer, but beyond that....

 

[QuarkTheAwesome]

It's a nightmare to code in PPC and GX2, so, yeah, I just don't see it happening.

Let me quickly remind you where you got that sentiment:

GX2 is a nightmare, but you don't have to use it. Personally I've been using OSScreen ... although now shinyquagsire has made a simpler example I may be able to learn it myself ;D
Same deal with PPC ASM - you can just use C ... which is much easier.

Which was immediately followed up by one of the experts in GX2, who did this from scratch:

GX2 only sucks getting set up (shaders are a pain to initialize, so are framebuffers, depth buffers, etc). Actually drawing with it is honestly not that bad once you get things to work.

We're two months away from that being a full year ago. A lot changes in a year. People like @aliaspider have shown ridiculous GX2 knowledge (like this, or maybe this? I still can't make heads or tails of it) and I like to think I've gotten pretty darn good at PowerPC; at least good enough to say it isn't nearly as bad as I implied. Maybe that's just experience, maybe not - but I can say now that there's nothing intrinsically bad about the language. I really shouldn't have said otherwise before; it was wildly inaccurate and came from the difficulty in doing something new rather than any problems specific to the code. PowerPC is generally agreed to be a Utopian heaven compared to things like x86 (another statement I'll regret?) and is definitely one of the better languages.

Honestly; you probably shouldn't be taking my word for what makes a good/bad thing in relation for programming anyway - you're talking to a guy who legitimately can't handle C++ (one of the most popular languages out there!)

 

[the_randomizer]

Let me quickly remind you where you got that sentiment:

Which was immediately followed up by one of the experts in GX2, who did this from scratch:

We're two months away from that being a full year ago. A lot changes in a year. People like @aliaspider have shown ridiculous GX2 knowledge (like this, or maybe this? I still can't make heads or tails of it) and I like to think I've gotten pretty darn good at PowerPC; at least good enough to say it isn't nearly as bad as I implied. Maybe that's just experience, maybe not - but I can say now that there's nothing intrinsically bad about the language. I really shouldn't have said otherwise before; it was wildly inaccurate and came from the difficulty in doing something new rather than any problems specific to the code. PowerPC is generally agreed to be a Utopian heaven compared to things like x86 (another statement I'll regret?) and is definitely one of the better languages.

Honestly; you probably shouldn't be taking my word for what makes a good/bad thing in relation for programming anyway - you're talking to a guy who legitimately can't handle C++ (one of the most popular languages out there!)

Apologies. My sentiments about PPC and dynarec still stand though, it's been almost a year and there remains little to no interest; sure, there's the Wii PPC dynarec for WiiSX-R, but the Wii U remains to be seen. I still feel like a fool for thinking a bounty was a good idea.

No one was interested ten months ago, that hasn't seemingly changed.

 

[gcpro]

Thanks to @cucholix and @the_randomizer for help in private! Works great here!!!

 

[AmandaRose]

Apologies. My sentiments about PPC and dynarec still stand though, it's been almost a year and there remains little to no interest; sure, there's the Wii PPC dynarec for WiiSX-R, but the Wii U remains to be seen. I still feel like a fool for thinking a bounty was a good idea.

No one was interested ten months ago, that hasn't seemingly changed.

I'm pretty sure I said several times to you and others that a bounty would not achieve anything lol but nobody wanted to listen.

 

[the_randomizer]

Thanks to @cucholix and @the_randomizer for help in private! Works great here!!!

Hey, glad that it worked out

 

[Osakasan]

So are we back to pessimism ahoy, lads?

 

[QuarkTheAwesome]

So are we back to pessimism ahoy, lads?

I'm starting to think it's some kind of collective scene fetish.
If you all figure out how to pass it on to people, let me know.

 

[arquillos]

Hi everybody!
I tried the latest version on my WiiU and nestopia core runs great but I can´t get the Vice core working.
Any suggestion? Is there anything I need to install to make this C64 core work?
Thank you in advance!

 

[ShadowOne333]

I'm starting to think it's some kind of collective scene fetish.
If you all figure out how to pass it on to people, let me know.

It's more like a delicate cuisine.
They let it go by for a time and then, after some pages, they bring it up again.

You know, just to keep fresh and spicy.

 

[pedro702]

I'm starting to think it's some kind of collective scene fetish.
If you all figure out how to pass it on to people, let me know.

why ahvent the cores you made work on wiiu like dos box still part of the nightlies?

 

[ShadowOne333]

why ahvent the cores you made work on wiiu like dos box still part of the nightlies?

He already mentioned that it seems to be a problem with something else and not the cores nor makefiles.
He asked @LibretroRetroArc and @aliaspider if they could take a look as to why the Vice64 and DosBox cores were not being added into the nightlies, since he seems to have added the Make targets for both of them.

 

[Wishi]

Thanks to @cucholix and @the_randomizer for help in private! Works great here!!!

Perhaps you could Copy/Paste your conversation with them to give an idea of how this is achieved , Please (: it's amazing how well things are going for retroarch just to wait for overlays and shaders to actually take advantage of the wii u resolution *_*