London Terror Attack(s)

[Xiphiidae]

Yeah, in 2017, Christians stopped being violent idiots. But don't pretend your religion never caused any problem in the world.

Not my religion.

You stopped but it took time. Well, see, you're the kind of peaceful Christian (I mean, you're hating, but you're not bombing) the same way there are peaceful muslims... which is not denying there are bombings in the name of Islam, and without denying christians did bullshit to in the past.

I prefer to focus on people being killed now, to be honest. I see a problem, and I want to solve it. People like you don't care if people die, you just want to blame anything but Islam however you can.

 

[Tigran]

What a pathetic attempt at misdirection and obfuscation. And how many Christians are running around in Western countries barbarically killing people in the name of Christ? How many Christians blindly follow the Old Testament as immutable laws of God? Does the fact that virtually all terrorists in Western countries are Muslims mean anything to you? How many people have to die until you admit there are problems that need addressing?

(P.S. I'm not even a Christian.)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-mu...0-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

Hell, http://www.romans322.com/daily-death-rate-statistics.php shows that we've had over 7k homocides this year already. Even going by loosest odds, that still puts them -way- over the top. And even now in the area where I am, there is a church under investigating for beating it's members for being gay.

 

[Hayleia]

"my" religion? I'm not a Christian. Stop projecting to people who don't want to be bombed by these people.

Not my religion.

I love putting useless details in my answers to see if people use these details to avoid answering the rest.

 

[Xiphiidae]

I love putting useless details in my answers to see if people use these details to avoid answering the rest.

Except for that I did answer the rest. Nice try attempting to justify your pathetic willingness to ignore barbarism and obfuscate the real problems we face.

 

[Hayleia]

Except I did answer the rest. Nice try attempting to justify your pathetic prejudice and willingness to ignore barbarism.

You quoted the rest, but you didn't answer really (and the other one completely didn't answer). You did not recognize some parts of Christianity were a problem too... the same way parts of Islam are nowadays too, I do not deny it. And I do not ignore barbarism, otherwise I wouldn't mention what Christianity did in the past.

 

[Tigran]

Also, as I pointed out, here in the US, while the Religious right are not acting violently outright, hate crime has increased massively over the last few months and they are activly trying to create and enforce laws that are nothing short of attempting to impose shira law here.

 

[omegasoul6]

Anyone else not even surprised anymore?

 

[barronwaffles]

You quoted the rest, but you didn't answer really (and the other one completely didn't answer). You did not recognize some parts of Christianity were a problem too... the same way parts of Islam are nowadays too, I do not deny it. And I do not ignore barbarism, otherwise I wouldn't mention what Christianity did in the past.

Yes, slaughtering people on the streets of London is bad - BUT THE CRUSADES! DON'T FORGET THE CRUSADES!

 

[Xiphiidae]

Yes, slaughtering people on the streets of London is bad - BUT THE CRUSADES! DON'T FORGET THE CRUSADES!

The crusades that were primarily a response to repeated Islamic invasions of Europe and the Middle East :^)

 

[Tigran]

We had a guy here in the US stab three people, killing two, because they wanted him to stop yelling at two girls who he -thought- where muslim.

 

[barronwaffles]

The crusades that were primarily a response to repeated Islamic invasions of Europe and the Middle East :^)

Buh muh fragile truth!

 

[Hayleia]

Yes, slaughtering people on the streets of London is bad - BUT THE CRUSADES! DON'T FORGET THE CRUSADES!

My point is not that. My point is, you can't "attack" Islam alone. Either you attack "all" religions or you don't. But you can't say "the Quran has violent verses and people who follow them must all die in the name of peace (what) or convert to christianity" like wtf is this post.

 

[Tigran]

The crusades that were primarily a response to repeated Islamic invasions of Europe and the Middle East :^)

Except it was the Christian that didn't honor the ransom deal and kill all the hostages because he decided he wanted the money up front instead of in payments like the agreement was.

 

[barronwaffles]

My point is not that. My point is, you can't "attack" Islam alone. Either you attack "all" religions or you don't. But you can't say "the Quran has violent verses and people who follow them must all die in the name of peace (what) or convert to christianity" like wtf is this post.

Actually you can attack Islam alone while recognizing that other religions in the west still maintain beliefs that some consider 'regressive', yet are almost entirely benign,

What percentage of the global Christian population do you think would consider apostasy a reasonable grounds for execution?

I have no issue with religion, but it's not *bigoted* to recognize that one is incredibly ill.

 

[Xiphiidae]

My point is not that. My point is, you can't "attack" Islam alone. Either you attack "all" religions or you don't. But you can't say "the Quran has violent verses and people who follow them must all die in the name of peace (what) or convert to christianity" like wtf is this post.

Virtually no-one is giving any religion a free pass except for those who deny the role of Islam in regard to terror. You are the one trying to deflect criticism of religion. Your attempts of a false equivalency between Islam and other religions is laughable, considering the reality of uniformly Islamic terror we face. I'll attack Christianity as much as I attack Islam when Christianity deserves it. At the moment, or even throughout history, this is simply not the case.

 

[Tigran]

Except in this case.. it's not really the religious believes as much as it is the regional believes. We have several Muslim Majority nations that are allies and actually on the lead of tech. It's more the area, much like the problems in Israel and Pakistan.

 

[WiiUBricker]

Any evidence for this claim whatsoever? I'm so sick of this meme.

I'm pretty sure terrorists want to kill people. which is why they do it. Ignoring the underlying issues and refuse to address the actual problem more closely fits into what they would want, because it allows them to more easily commit acts of barbarism, which is exactly what they're doing.

What meme? Terrorists aren't killing just for the sake of killing. That would make them braindead psychopaths. When they kill they have a goal in mind, sending messages to the public as an act of their extreme religious beliefs. Look it up.

 

[Vipera]

Except in this case.. it's not really the religious believes as much as it is the regional believes. We have several Muslim Majority nations that are allies and actually on the lead of tech. It's more the area, much like the problems in Israel and Pakistan.

You mean Saudi Arabia where women are forbidden to go around without dressing like a ghost? Or Qatar allowing people to get stoned to death because that's what Sharia law says? Do I even have to say anything about Brunei?

 

[Tigran]

Also, this hate on Muslim people actually feeds right into the terrorists plans. How do you think they get their recruits. They just play the news and comments like the ones above about muslims and say "See.. How can you be safe? We are the only ones who can garentee you a safe life."

Sure it's a lie... But it's the lie that has worked for so many for so often. It's how police coerce confessions weather real or false. It's how the military has recruited forever, it's how Trump won the election. It's the MOST basic recruiting tool in history... and a lot of you play right into it.

 

[omegasoul6]

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