Hacking PS3 Hacking Support for PS2 and PS1 as of late?

[TheRenegadist]

I've been out of the scene for awhile but I was curious as to how far the PS3 has come in terms of backwards compatibility for PS2 and PS1 backups on an external drive. Last I heard the PS2 had a very limited library of games that would work or it might have been the PS1 library. Have we hit the point of full compatibility ability for both PS1 and PS2 games on the PS3?

What's the scoop?

 

[wakabayashy]

Almost all the games works with rebug for both consoles, ps1 & ps2

 

[TheRenegadist]

Almost all the games works with rebug for both consoles, ps1 & ps2

If that's the case then what was I looking at that said you had to convert all PS2 or PS1 games to PS Classics and that one of the systems had barely any compatible games? And is there a list of PS1 and PS2 ISO's that will work from an HDD on the PS3 because I never could find a reliable list and all this time I thought compatibility was pretty lackluster.

Edit: Yeah, I'm still seeing people saying that compatibility is very limited as far as PS2 games go. No good news so far or at least where I've looked.

 

[wakabayashy]

you convert nothing, rebug cobra will allow you to play them directly iso format for both ps2 & ps1

 

[TheRenegadist]

you convert nothing, rebug cobra will allow you to play them directly iso format for both ps2 & ps1

Is there a compatibility list somewhere that shows what is and isn't compatible?

 

[wakabayashy]

I don't know sorry :/

 

[Zephir1991]

Is there a compatibility list somewhere that shows what is and isn't compatible?

There is one somewhere, but it's outdated. Best is, to test every game yourself.

 

[FR0ZN]

PS2 compatability depends on your PS3 model tho ... everything that does not have the PS2 hardware inside is not that great.

 

[wakabayashy]

PS2 compatability depends on your PS3 model tho ... everything that does not have the PS2 hardware inside is not that great.

mine is not compatible and all isos works all fine

 

[spotanjo3]

I've been out of the scene for awhile but I was curious as to how far the PS3 has come in terms of backwards compatibility for PS2 and PS1 backups on an external drive. Last I heard the PS2 had a very limited library of games that would work or it might have been the PS1 library. Have we hit the point of full compatibility ability for both PS1 and PS2 games on the PS3?

What's the scoop?

PS1 works perfectly fine without a jailbreak if you use PS1 DISC because SLIM can runs PS1 DISCS 100% but for Jailbreak will work perfectly fine with backup 100% games as well.

For PS2 games... MOST will works fine. NOT ALL OF THEM. I am saying "MOST" PS2 games will works fine. No, you can't run PS2 DISCS at all. Only backup games. Make sure you must have a Webmod, Rebug, and enable Cobra in Rebug for PS2 to be playable.

 

[kevin corms]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...Station_2_games_compatible_with_PlayStation_3

look at the "Compatible with 60GB PAL/80GB NTSC PS3 (CECHC/CECHE)" column, cobra enables the same software solution those models used for ps3s that are not normally able to play ps2 games.

 

[FR0ZN]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...Station_2_games_compatible_with_PlayStation_3

look at the "Compatible with 60GB PAL/80GB NTSC PS3 (CECHC/CECHE)" column, cobra enables the same software solution those models used for ps3s that are not normally able to play ps2 games.

That is false information ... there are three possibilites for PS2 compatability within a PS3:

1) CECHA/B had the PS2 GPU and CPU combined in one chip on the motherboard and used a bianry called "ps2_emu.self" to launch PS2 titles (resulted in 99% compatability).
2) CECHC/E only had the PS2 CPU on board and emulated the PS2 GPU in software. The binary called "ps2_gxemu.self" is used here. (resulted in 90-95% compatability).
3) Every PS3 after the CECHE models had no PS2 hardware at all and everything was emulated by software. This emulator was introduced when Sony decided to offer PS2 Classics at the PSN Store. The binary called "ps2_softemu.self" was used from FW 1.90 to 3.74. After that Sony switched to "ps2_netemu.self" which is where its at today. And this emulator is not the greatest when it comes to compatability, here is your list:

http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PS2_Classics_Emulator_Compatibility_List

 

[wakabayashy]

with rebug cobra, no need to convert to classics, just put your iso and play

 

[FR0ZN]

Yeah but the emulator is the same and so is the compatability ... Classics are only ISOs in a container.

 

[wakabayashy]

yep, but almost all games works at least for me ^^

 

[FR0ZN]

That might be, but that doesn't mean the compatability is great.

 

[TheRenegadist]

That is false information ... there are three possibilites for PS2 compatability within a PS3:

1) CECHA/B had the PS2 GPU and CPU combined in one chip on the motherboard and used a bianry called "ps2_emu.self" to launch PS2 titles (resulted in 99% compatability).
2) CECHC/E only had the PS2 CPU on board and emulated the PS2 GPU in software. The binary called "ps2_gxemu.self" is used here. (resulted in 90-95% compatability).
3) Every PS3 after the CECHE models had no PS2 hardware at all and everything was emulated by software. This emulator was introduced when Sony decided to offer PS2 Classics at the PSN Store. The binary called "ps2_softemu.self" was used from FW 1.90 to 3.74. After that Sony switched to "ps2_netemu.self" which is where its at today. And this emulator is not the greatest when it comes to compatability, here is your list:

http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PS2_Classics_Emulator_Compatibility_List

If CECHA B is so compatible then why haven't I found anything to back that up? Again, everywhere I've looked says compatibility is horrible for the PS2 lineup.

 

[smf]

2) CECHC/E only had the PS2 CPU on board and emulated the PS2 GPU in software. The binary called "ps2_gxemu.self" is used here. (resulted in 90-95% compatability).

Other way round. The GPU chip is included and the CPU is emulated. http://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PS2_Compatibility

3) Every PS3 after the CECHE models had no PS2 hardware at all and everything was emulated by software. This emulator was introduced when Sony decided to offer PS2 Classics at the PSN Store. The binary called "ps2_softemu.self" was used from FW 1.90 to 3.74. After that Sony switched to "ps2_netemu.self" which is where its at today. And this emulator is not the greatest when it comes to compatability, here is your list:

Yeah. It's the equivalent to the POPS emulator for PS1 games on PS2. They got it to the point where it was compatible enough with a few hand picked games they wanted to sell, then realised that it wasn't worth the hassle.

mine is not compatible and all isos works all fine

Either yours is compatible or you haven't tested many games. I have only tested one game so far and it failed on a slim and worked fine on my DECHA00A. I haven't found a cheap CECHC or DECHJ yet.

 

[spotanjo3]

Yeah but the emulator is the same and so is the compatability ... Classics are only ISOs in a container.

How do you know ? Have you tried it ? Mine doesn't have a problem as far as I know since more than 4 years using PS3 REBUG. Loving it!

 

[kevin corms]

How do you know ? Have you tried it ? Mine doesn't have a problem as far as I know since more than 4 years using PS3 REBUG. Loving it!

The compatibility is actually pretty good for more popular games even looking at the list posted, seems like there are a bunch of problems with more obscure games.