Hacking CFW/hacks with .3DS support

[goldensun87]

Why OP needs cheats for any game not named Pokemon X/Y/Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire/Sun/Moon , is beyond me. And if you have access to Homebrew+JKSV, you don't even need a cheat engine for those games, because PKHex exists .

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.3ds support is important for me (and for OP, I assume), because of the drag-and-drop ease of use, no lengthy install times, and the ability to have multiple hot-swappable μSD cards that you can just pop in and out of the GW card.

I have never owned a Gateway cartridge before, but the reason I am speaking against it, is because as long as one continues to use GW alongside A9LH, they have a fairly high risk of losing A9LH (assuming said users have already updated to 11.3). So, taking extra steps to convert to .cia, and the installation time, are worth it imo, to avoid losing A9LH. In fact, I have yet to update to 11.3, because Super Smash Bros is not forcing a system update for online play, and I have not yet confirmed whether Pokemon Sun does so. Ideally, I will not update to 11.3, until the speculated sighax goes live. Which brings me to my final point: when superior hacks and homebrew entrypoints are found on a latest version (faster and simpler A9LH+Luma installation on 11.2, and Soundhax on 11.2), I highly recommend ditching whatever old firmware/CFW solution you are clinging to, and update all your 3DS'es. It is simply beneficial in the long run.

 

[Shady Guy Jose]

I agree with you on A9LH. My current setup is A9LH Luma on SysNAND 11.2 with Gateway payload as a chainload. I might have to return to an EmuNAND setup with 11.3, though, unless the new Gateway update implements FIRM protection (as of now, if you boot Gateway on an 11.3 SysNAND, even if you don't update, it wipes out A9LH) or brings something entirely new to the table.

Well they're not really opinions, but facts countering what the OP said. OP said he likes .3ds games because of being able to use two SD cards - it was pointed out that he does not use two SD cards in his setup. OP said it's faster - it was pointed out that it is actually not faster. It has all been factual, so not sure what your problem is.

And in addition, the OP never mentioned cheats, so that's not even part of the discussion, it can't be used as an argument.

If someone was anti-vax, and said that the population would be safer and healthier if nobody vaccinated their children, and someone pointed out what life was like before vaccinations when children were crippled by Polio or killed by smallpox, would you accuse them of shilling for vaccination, and then point out they could save money by not vaccinating, when that was never part of the argument?

Why OP needs cheats for any game not named Pokemon X/Y/Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire/Sun/Moon , is beyond me. And if you have access to Homebrew+JKSV, you don't even need a cheat engine for those games, because PKHex exists .

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I have never owned a Gateway cartridge before, but the reason I am speaking against it, is because as long as one continues to use GW alongside A9LH, they have a fairly high risk of losing A9LH (assuming said users have already updated to 11.3). So, taking extra steps to convert to .cia, and the installation time, are worth it imo, to avoid losing A9LH. In fact, I have yet to update to 11.3, because Super Smash Bros is not forcing a system update for online play, and I have not yet confirmed whether Pokemon Sun does so. Ideally, I will not update to 11.3, until the speculated sighax goes live. Which brings me to my final point: when superior hacks and homebrew entrypoints are found on a latest version (faster and simpler A9LH+Luma installation on 11.2, and Soundhax on 11.2), I highly recommend ditching whatever old firmware/CFW solution you are clinging to, and update all your 3DS'es. It is simply beneficial in the long run.

As I said in my self-quoted post, it's not an old firmware/solution. It's fully-updated Luma with A9LH, with absolutely no risk on 11.2 using the most practical SysNAND-only solution. Depending on what Gateway releases for 11.3, I may have to revert to using Luma with SysNAND and Gateway with EmuNAND (if they don't implement FIRM protection or anything of the sort, since it seems using the same SysNAND-only solution on 11.3 would be impossible without it). In that way, the risk of bricking or losing A9LH would not be minimal, it would be zero. Ditching Gateway would mean losing what I mentioned in my other post: drag-and-drop, conversion-and-install-free .3ds support. Which is a big deal for someone who's constantly swapping out games, and even allows us to have multiple SD cards for Gateway games, without having to change the main 3DS one with our installed apps, and maybe even EmuNAND(s). And I'm not even mentioning the cheat system, which is a pretty big deal for a lot of users.

TL; DR: there are some big pros to using Gateway, but no one should be using it without A9LH and Luma installed on an updated SysNAND.

 

[Gourmet]

But he said he has the ability to use two SD's without swapping. Which is literally impossible unless he refers to the internal SD card, which is really irrelevant because you cannot run .3ds files off it.

I said .3ds is important, not that I only use it. Or are you assuming GW cannot run .cias?

I agree with you on A9LH. My current setup is A9LH Luma on SysNAND 11.2 with Gateway payload as a chainload. I might have to return to an EmuNAND setup with 11.3, though, unless the new Gateway update implements FIRM protection (as of now, if you boot Gateway on an 11.3 SysNAND, even if you don't update, it wipes out A9LH) or brings something entirely new to the table.

If Gateway can wipe out A9LH, how is Luma chainloading gateway completely safe as you said? Honestly if Gateway were to make more brick code, you would be affected for using an "unnoficial" solution, not me who is running MSET. Or do you expect a bricking glitch that never happened at this point?

 

[The Catboy]

It's not the same. I can use two SDs without swapping, it works seamlessly without installing, I feel like it's faster too. More than well worth the trouble of a five second boot if I happen to power off.

Or you could buy a bigger SD card.

 

[Gourmet]

Or you could buy a bigger SD card.

I could buy games too. Which do you prefer, being part of your super cool modern ultrasafe hax cult or using that money to support actual developers?

 

[Quantumcat]

I said .3ds is important, not that I only use it. Or are you assuming GW cannot run .cias?

If you are happy using cias, then why are .3ds files so important? You could sell your Gateway for $50 and invest in a 64GB SD card. You'd never need to take it out.

If Gateway can wipe out A9LH, how is Luma chainloading gateway completely safe as you said?

It's safe as long as you use an emuNAND, which you have to do with MSET anyway.

Honestly if Gateway were to make more brick code, you would be affected for using an "unnoficial" solution, not me who is running MSET.

The entry point is irrelevant in triggering brick code. All that matters is that launcher.dat is used. MSET isn't going to protect you from getting trapped by Gateway brick code.

 

[Gourmet]

If you are happy using cias, then why are .3ds files so important? You could sell your Gateway for $50 and invest in a 64GB SD card. You'd never need to take it out.

It's safe as long as you use an emuNAND, which you have to do with MSET anyway.

Honestly I'd be happy to sell it at that price but it doesn't look possible, not where I live. By the way $50 is like a whole week of fulltime work here. It's not like I'm going to buy another SD just because.

 

[CheatFreak47]

I could buy games too. Which do you prefer, being part of your super cool modern ultrasafe hax cult or using that money to support actual developers?

Look, the reason people are giving you crap is because you're supporting a shifty, thieving, lazy chinese company when there's smaller, independent developers that make nothing from their work out there that offer a superior user experience when properly configured.

The only reason you want to stick with Gateway is because you can't be arsed with switching- either because you don't have an SD card with enough space, or out of plain laziness.

The real 3DS home menu is a far better interface for selecting and running games then some weird embedded rom selector, save files are easily and readily accessible when running as installed titles rather then painstakingly navigating the tiny select menu to get the right game, then run a homebrew solution like JKSM to dump the save because GW doesn't offer a method for dumping saves at all.

About the only thing that GW has over the free competition is it's ability to search for cheat codes (not to be confused with actually using cheatcodes, since most NTR plugins are superior in every way for that)

The thing is, that's fine, use your Gateway- keep using MSET and exploiting your console with every power on.
But don't act like your method is superior when it isn't. People don't like to support bad habits.

To many of us, you're the 3DS hacking equivalent to a hobo asking for money on the street... while at the same time sitting on the ground next to a pile of heroin needles and empty beer bottles.

You're always free to do what you like, but you can't expect people to not give you crap for doing something in an outdated, crappy way, when there are better options avaliable to you.

 

[Quantumcat]

Honestly I'd be happy to sell it at that price but it doesn't look possible, not where I live. By the way $50 is like a whole week of fulltime work here. It's not like I'm going to buy another SD just because.

However much you could sell it for where you live, it should be about the equivalent of a cheap large SD card.

If it is really worth $50 where you live, if it were me I would sell it and pay for two weeks' mortgage or rent or whatever. Convenience isn't worth that much to me

 

[Gourmet]

However much you could sell it for where you live, it should be about the equivalent of a cheap large SD card.

If it is really worth $50 where you live, if it were me I would sell it and pay for two weeks' mortgage or rent or whatever. Convenience isn't worth that much to me

I just checked and Gateway isn't worth jack anymore, honestly who buys it these days? There's one for like $5, and I doubt it will even sell.

 

[Quantumcat]

I just checked and Gateway isn't worth jack anymore, honestly who buys it these days? There's one for like $5, and I doubt it will even sell.

Wow, really? I swapped mine for a Sky3DS about a year ago, if there was one for $5 I'd probably get it just for cheats (once the 11.3 thing gets sorted out).

 

[Shady Guy Jose]

I said .3ds is important, not that I only use it. Or are you assuming GW cannot run .cias?



If Gateway can wipe out A9LH, how is Luma chainloading gateway completely safe as you said? Honestly if Gateway were to make more brick code, you would be affected for using an "unnoficial" solution, not me who is running MSET. Or do you expect a bricking glitch that never happened at this point?

Gateway itself doesn't wipe anything. However, it doesn't have FIRM protection like Luma does, so booting an 11.3 SysNAND with Gateway will allow the official firmware itself to wipe A9LH (which it can't do on Luma due to FIRM protection). On 11.2, it's safe, as long as you don't update while in Gateway Mode.

 

[The Catboy]

If Gateway can wipe out A9LH, how is Luma chainloading gateway completely safe as you said? Honestly if Gateway were to make more brick code, you would be affected for using an "unnoficial" solution, not me who is running MSET. Or do you expect a bricking glitch that never happened at this point?

Gateway only wipes out A9LH if you update in sysNAND because it lacks FIRM0/1 protection. Expect the brick code still effects MSET by the brick code.

I could buy games too. Which do you prefer, being part of your super cool modern ultrasafe hax cult or using that money to support actual developers?

>Makes a thread asking for a CFW with .3DS support
>Decides to act Holier than thou when given a suggestion.

If you don't want people's suggestions, then just request this thread to be locked. You were the one who asked for our suggestion and now you are attacking everyone who answers.

 

[Gourmet]

Gateway itself doesn't wipe anything. However, it doesn't have FIRM protection like Luma does, so booting an 11.3 SysNAND with Gateway will allow the official firmware itself to wipe A9LH (which it can't do on Luma due to FIRM protection). On 11.2, it's safe, as long as you don't update while in Gateway Mode.

I understand now, thank you. Are you using GW as emuNAND?

You were the one who asked for our suggestion and now you are attacking everyone who answers.

Are you offended now? Can we still be friends if I apologize?

 

[The Catboy]

Are you offended now? Can we still be friends if I apologize?

I am not offended, I am confused as to why you made a thread, but refuse to listen. The vast majority of people in this thread either know what they are talking about or know enough to give proper advice.
You asked a question, got an answer, then started fighting everyone over their answers.

 

[proflayton123]

Waiting for that lock


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[Gourmet]

I am not offended, I am confused as to why you made a thread, but refuse to listen. The vast majority of people in this thread either know what they are talking about or know enough to give proper advice.
You asked a question, got an answer, then started fighting everyone over their answers.

I just "started fighting" those who refused to understand the question and said "just get a big SD!", and the term here couldn't be farther from truth. By the way, my sysNAND and emuNAND are still linked, if I were to install A9LH, Luma and GW emuNAND, can I just copy the contents later or do I need a backup tool for my .cia games?

Also, is the 3ds.guide accurate for those who never got past 4.5?

 

[The Catboy]

I just "started fighting" those who refused to understand the question and said "just get a big SD!", and the term here couldn't be farther from truth. By the way, my sysNAND and emuNAND are still linked, if I were to install A9LH, Luma and GW emuNAND, can I just copy the contents later or do I need a backup tool for my .cia games?

Also, is the 3ds.guide accurate for those who never got past 4.5?

It solves the problem of swapping SD cards. I pay attention to what I am replying to.
The guide actually covers installing A9LH from MSET. And you can use Decrypt9 to dump games and or convert your .3ds games to .cia

 

[Gourmet]

It solves the problem of swapping SD cards. I pay attention to what I am replying to.
The guide actually covers installing A9LH from MSET. And you can use Decrypt9 to dump games and or convert your .3ds games to .cia

You seem to know a lot. Before starting the guide, I have to run some tool to backup my .cia games (EDIT: I mean the saves)? The .savs from .3ds I can just inject later, right?

 

[CreAtor135]

good lord lmao. the guy made his choice, no need to go hard and directly impose your ideologies onto him. let him live