Hacking RedNAND newbie questions.

[C0mm4nd_]

Yes, and in the case of DLC using a fake ticket on an eShop title. Its still the same method, it still uses the same software to obtain and install it, its just a fake ticket that an unpatched system will refuse to install.

Jesus I wonder about some people on this forum.

Brazilian method IS NOT installing softwares or DLC or Update

 

[Dungeonseeker]

Yes, and in the case of DLC using a fake ticket on an eShop title. Its still the same method, it still uses the same software to obtain and install it, its just a fake ticket that an unpatched system will refuse to install.

Jesus I wonder about some people on this forum.

Brazilian method IS NOT installing softwares or DLC or Update

Really, so would installing DLC using fake tickets be a thing if the Brazilian method didn't exist?

The Brazilian method worked out how to use legitimate tickets to install titles onto your USB HDD. A short while afterwards it was worked out how to create fake tickets to allow us to install whatever we like.

Its still the same method using the same process.

 

[C0mm4nd_]

Really, so would installing DLC using fake tickets be a thing if the Brazilian method didn't exist?

Yes, look at 3DS scene, they haven't brazilian method. They can install games, dlc, not-signed stuff...

 

[Dungeonseeker]

Yes, look at 3DS scene, they haven't brazilian method. They can install games, dlc, not-signed stuff...

And that's a really nice strawman right there.

3DS is not relevant to this discussion so I ask you again, would we be able to install using fake tickets if the Brazilian ticket method had never been released?

Using fake tickets came as a direct result of the Brazilian method and separating the two is just confusing.

 

[C0mm4nd_]

3DS is not relevant to this discussion so I ask you again, would we be able to install using fake tickets if the Brazilian ticket method had never been released?

Yes, sysConfigTool, official ninty software can install unsigned stuff... Everyone can subscribe to Ninty Dev Portal so...

And btw Wup Installer was coded BEFORE the Brazilian Method

 

[Dungeonseeker]

Yes, sysConfigTool, official ninty software can install unsigned stuff... Everyone can subscribe to Ninty Dev Portal so...

And you just lost. Someone who scrapes the bottom of the barrel for an answer rather than admitting the truth loses by default.

I just love how you claim that using fake TICKETS is somehow entirely unrelated to using legitimate TICKETS. Its pure gold to be honest.

 

[C0mm4nd_]

And you just lost. Someone who scrapes the bottom of the barrel for an answer rather than admitting the truth loses by default.

I just love how you claim that using fake TICKETS is somehow entirely unrelated to using legitimate TICKETS. Its pure gold to be honest.

Do you know at least the difference between legit & fake tickets?

 

[Dungeonseeker]

Do you know at least the difference between legit & fake tickets?

Not entirely but I do know it has something to do with a numerical range stored in the tik file. A certain range is legitimate while outside of it is fake.

 

[iAqua]

Yes, sysConfigTool, official ninty software can install unsigned stuff...

Please, correct me if i'm wrong, but sysConfigTool can't install unsigned stuff unless you have sigpatches. And, the Brazilian method is as follows

• Download content with some sort of NUS grabbing tool.
• Grab a ticket and place it in the contents.
• Install using any form of title installer.

The method itself never states that a legit ticket is required, just states that one is required. SigPatches could be a factor, it could not. The Brazilian method itself is just installing a dump with wupinstaller.

 

[C0mm4nd_]

Not entirely but I do know it has something to do with a numerical range stored in the tik file. A certain range is legitimate while outside of it is fake.

Range? Kidding me?
Basically, Nintendo encrypts and signs all their softwares (and DLC, Updates too)
This sign says to console "User XXXX bought this software. His console id is XXXX His NNID is....."
Obv a tik from another console won't work.
Disks have universal tik right? They can be played from all consoles.
Brazilians said: "Let's try to put Disk tik into the same title but eShop"
It worked. This is Brazilian Method

 

[Dungeonseeker]

Please, correct me if i'm wrong, but sysConfigTool can't install unsigned stuff unless you have sigpatches. And, the Brazilian method is as follows

• Download content with some sort of NUS grabbing tool.
• Grab a ticket and place it in the contents.
• Install using any form of title installer.

The method itself never states that a legit ticket is required, just states that one is required. SigPatches could be a factor, it could not. The Brazilian method itself is just installing a dump with wupinstaller.

What's alarming is @C0mm4nd_ has a CBHC FAQ thread active. Bad avcide here is bad advice but bad advice there could mean bricks.

 

[C0mm4nd_]

Please, correct me if i'm wrong, but sysConfigTool can't install unsigned stuff unless you have sigpatches. And, the Brazilian method is as follows

• Download content with some sort of NUS grabbing tool.
• Grab a ticket and place it in the contents.
• Install using any form of title installer.

The method itself never states that a legit ticket is required, just states that one is required. SigPatches could be a factor, it could not. The Brazilian method itself is just installing a dump with wupinstaller.

sysConfigTool can install unsigned content by default... Devs use it for trying their softwares. When they tried all they send software to Ninty, Ninty signs the software, send it to the eShop et voilà.

 

[iAqua]

sysConfigTool can install unsigned content by default... Devs use it for trying their softwares. When they tried all they send software to Ninty, Ninty signs the software, send it to the eShop et voilà.

By unsigned, do you mean an app with an invalid tik?

 

[C0mm4nd_]

By unsigned, do you mean an app with an invalid tik?

Fake, without sign... tik must have encryption key of course.

 

[iAqua]

Fake, without sign... tik must have encryption key of course.

Nope, can't. I know, it just can't. You need sigpatches. I've literally tried stuff with fake tiks, doesn't work.

 

[C0mm4nd_]

Nope, can't. I know, it just can't. You need sigpatches. I've literally tried stuff with fake tiks, doesn't work.

Of course you need sig patches for installing unsigned tiks... but Dev consoles have them by default (think it's factory mode or something similar)


If Nintendo gave signed sysConfigTool tiks to devs, they could install unsigned software but can't run it

 

[iAqua]

Of course you need sig patches for installing unsigned tiks... but Dev consoles have them by default (think it's factory mode or something similar)

No, they build their titles with the SDK, then they can install it to the console.

 

[C0mm4nd_]

No, they build their titles with the SDK, then they can install it to the console.

SDK doesn't and can't sign stuff
Only Ninty has the private Signing key
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signature

 

[iAqua]

SDK doesn't and can't sign stuff
Only Ninty has the private Signing key

You can build installable titles with the SDK for dev units.

 

[C0mm4nd_]

You can build installable titles with the SDK for dev units.

You can build installable titles with NUS Packer too