Hacking Fieldrunners Downgrade - Really confused. Someone... help?

[turbosheep]

Hi guys. I'm trying to downgrade my New3DS 11.0 using an OG3DS with CFW installed.

Can I update Sysnand on my OG3DS in order to access the Eshop and purchase Fieldrunners on Sysnand?

Already bought it on Emunand but gives an 'error occured' screen.
Tried GBA/DSIWare fixes, installing CIA in sysnand... can't find a EU CIA for Fieldrunners though.
Also, I read not to use system transfer from Emunand in the first place?

Thanks.

 

[Awesomeslayerg]

Yeah just make sure al9h is installed and on your system, update buy fieldrunners and install the downgrade stuff as well as steelhax diver.

 

[Aletron9000]

you can use an existing exploit to launch ctr-httpwn to access the eshop on 11.0

the reason it doesn't work on emunand is because dsi games can only be launched on sysnand.
I system transferred from emunand to the unhacked 3ds 11.0, and the downgrade went smoothly and I was able to downgrade from 11.0 to 9.2 to 11.1 A9LH.
System transferring from emunand is safe.

edit: yeah, also install steelhax

 

[turbosheep]

Wow, this forum moves fast.
I currently have Luma3DS and RXTools installed as CWF - this means al9h is installed? I apologize if this is a stupid question haha.
If that's the case... I simply update sysnand (and emunand will be 'intact')...
Then, I buy Fieldrunners and test the exploit-save.

One more question that I forgot to ask: my New3DS, 11.0, needs the Ctr_httpwn thingie to do a system transfer, right?
But to do that, I need to use a non-browser exploit. I tried the OOT3D one, but I just can't figure that stuff out.
Do you guys recommend updating my New3DS 11.0 -> 11.1 so I can system transfer by using the Steel Diver hack-thingie?

Sorry for all this vagueness, kinda new to all this.
Thanks!

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you can use an existing exploit to launch ctr-httpwn to access the eshop on 11.0

the reason it doesn't work on emunand is because dsi games can only be launched on sysnand.
I system transferred from emunand to the unhacked 3ds 11.0, and the downgrade went smoothly and I was able to downgrade from 11.0 to 9.2 to 11.1 A9LH.
System transferring from emunand is safe.

edit: yeah, also install steelhax

I don't understand how you buy, play and replace the save of the Sysnand copy of Fieldrunners...
And then do the system transfer from Emunand? Aren't games/saves separate for th sys/emunand partitions?

 

[Temptress Cerise]

The fact you are using rxTools already tells me, you are most likely def not on A9LH.

Follow this guide if you want to get A9LH setup: https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki

DSiWare are store on the NAND, the TWL part, and as such, saves are there.

 

[Aletron9000]

Wow, this forum moves fast.
I currently have Luma3DS and RXTools installed as CWF - this means al9h is installed? I apologize if this is a stupid question haha.
If that's the case... I simply update sysnand (and emunand will be 'intact')...
Then, I buy Fieldrunners and test the exploit-save.

One more question that I forgot to ask: my New3DS, 11.0, needs the Ctr_httpwn thingie to do a system transfer, right?
But to do that, I need to use a non-browser exploit. I tried the OOT3D one, but I just can't figure that stuff out.
Do you guys recommend updating my New3DS 11.0 -> 11.1 so I can system transfer by using the Steel Diver hack-thingie?

Sorry for all this vagueness, kinda new to all this.
Thanks!

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I don't understand how you buy, play and replace the save of the Sysnand copy of Fieldrunners...
And then do the system transfer from Emunand? Aren't games/saves separate for th sys/emunand partitions?

You don't need to do anything with sysnand, get the game on emunand, hack the game on emunand, system transfer from emunand to the unhacked system.

Having CFW is not the same as a9lh, a9lh boot CFW the second you turn on your 3ds.

 

[Duckling]

wait nvm

 

[turbosheep]

The fact you are using rxTools already tells me, you are most likely def not on A9LH.

Follow this guide if you want to get A9LH setup: https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki

DSiWare are store on the NAND, the TWL part, and as such, saves are there.

Thank you! Time to educate myself.

 

[turbosheep]

You don't need to do anything with sysnand, get the game on emunand, hack the game on emunand, system transfer from emunand to the unhacked system.

Having CFW is not the same as a9lh, a9lh boot CFW the second you turn on your 3ds.

Yeah, looks like I'm quite misinformed about what a9lh actually is.
Still, as far as I understand things I'm not able to boot DSIWare (Fieldrunners) in Emunand at all.

 

[nechigawara]

Yeah, looks like I'm quite misinformed about what a9lh actually is.
Still, as far as I understand things I'm not able to boot DSIWare (Fieldrunners) in Emunand at all.

You need to install both DSiWares/Virtual Console Apps on both EmuNAND and SysNAND to make it work.

 

[turbosheep]

You need to install both DSiWares/Virtual Console Apps on both EmuNAND and SysNAND to make it work.

Tried this; didn't work. Likely because I just the wrong region CIA for Sysnand install - hard to find a EU version.
Either way, I'm kind of stuck having to try this on Sysnand for now, which means I have to update Sysnand to access the Eshop, which means I have to do this A9LH stuff that I don't know much about.
...Going to be juuust fine.

 

[nechigawara]

Tried this; didn't work. Likely because I just the wrong region CIA for Sysnand install - hard to find a EU version.
Either way, I'm kind of stuck having to try this on Sysnand for now, which means I have to update Sysnand to access the Eshop, which means I have to do this A9LH stuff that I don't know much about.
...Going to be juuust fine.

Did you would like to use this Fieldrunners for DSiWare Downgrade method?
If yes, according to the guide: https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/DSiWare-Downgrade
You need to buy it, a pirated copy of the game will not work.

 

[turbosheep]

Did you would like to use this Fieldrunners for DSiWare Downgrade method?
If yes, according to the guide: https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/DSiWare-Downgrade
You need to buy it, a pirated copy of the game will not work.

Thank you. I realize that - I meant to say: I bought a legal version (EU) on Emunand. Didn't run, so tried installing a non-legit version (USA) on Sysnand to get it running in Emunand.
Maybe it didn't work because of wrong region, but other people say DSIWare wouldn't run on Emunand anyway so here I am trying to access the Eshop on Sysnand.

Do any of you guys know if it's possible to safely do this a9lh thing AFTER I already did the custom firmware stuff?
The 'A9LHHax' seems to happen early in the whole process of hacking the 3DS.

 

[nechigawara]

Thank you. I realize that - I meant to say: I bought a legal version (EU) on Emunand. Didn't run, so tried installing a non-legit version (USA) on Sysnand to get it running in Emunand.
Maybe it didn't work because of wrong region, but other people say DSIWare wouldn't run on Emunand anyway so here I am trying to access the Eshop on Sysnand.

Do any of you guys know if it's possible to safely do this a9lh thing AFTER I already did the custom firmware stuff?
The 'A9LHHax' seems to happen early in the whole process of hacking the 3DS.

What is your current 3DS settings and your situation?
I assume you have 1 3DS with FW 9.2 or lower, and another one with FW 11.0?

Edit: Sorry, forgot to read the earlier post.
My suggestion is if your O3DS has 9.2 or Lower FW, you should go A9LH: https://github.com/Plailect/Guide
Then, buy Fieldrunners again on USA eshop using SysNAND.
I don't think using EmuNAND is work for DSiWare Downgrade method.

 

[turbosheep]

What is your current 3DS system and your situation?
I assume you have 1 3DS with FW 9.2 or lower, and another one with FW 11.0?

Thanks for the help.
Working with a New3DS on 11.0, and a OG3DS downgraded from 10.5 to 9.2.
The latter has multiple CFW running - I originally installed Luma3DS, but later on used RXTools in order to play GBA games on Emunand (also required install on Sysnand, like you said).

Now, I'm trying to use Fieldrunners to downgrade my New3DS from 11.0 to 9.2, as I'd love to put all my games digitally on the SD (going to Japan for three months ).
I explained I tried running a legit copy on Emunand... didn't work out. And now I'm here, trying to understand how I can get Fieldrunners from the Eshop on Sysnand.

Other users here explained to me I should be able to update Sysnand on my hacked OG3DS in order to purchase Fieldrunners again and actually run it.
Thing is, I need A9HL in order to safely do this without screwing up my Emunand (as I understand it). And from the guides, this A9HL happens *before* doing any custom firmware stuff.

 

[Temptress Cerise]

Thanks for the help.
Working with a New3DS on 11.0, and a OG3DS downgraded from 10.5 to 9.2.
The latter has multiple CFW running - I originally installed Luma3DS, but later on used RXTools in order to play GBA games on Emunand (also required install on Sysnand, like you said).

Now, I'm trying to use Fieldrunners to downgrade my New3DS from 11.0 to 9.2, as I'd love to put all my games digitally on the SD (going to Japan for three months ).
I explained I tried running a legit copy on Emunand... didn't work out. And now I'm here, trying to understand how I can get Fieldrunners from the Eshop on Sysnand.

Other users here explained to me I should be able to update Sysnand on my hacked OG3DS in order to purchase Fieldrunners again and actually run it.
Thing is, I need A9HL in order to safely do this without screwing up my Emunand (as I understand it). And from the guides, this A9HL happens *before* doing any custom firmware stuff.

A9LH is an entry point. And the best one, since it happens at boot time and has 100% bootrate.

Edit: Sorry, forgot to read the earlier post.
My suggestion is if your O3DS has 9.2 or Lower FW, you should go A9LH: https://github.com/Plailect/Guide
Then, buy Fieldrunners again on USA eshop using SysNAND.
I don't think using EmuNAND is work for DSiWare Downgrade method.

You can do the DSiWare Downgrade, without having to do A9LH. All that matters is that the game is bought from the eshop, and the save file is edited.

However, Plailect's A9LH Guide only covers how to do it if you are using A9LH.

I know a poster here has said it's possible to do it, but has only provided a barebones run down of what do. No steps, or what to download and how. So OP has to figure out how to do this on his own.

While A9LH isn't needed to do the DSiWare Downgrade. OP Should just follow the Guide, not because it's needed, but because it handholds the user and provides all relevant steps.

So anywho. OP, just follow the A9LH Guide on your o3DS console, to have A9LH setup. Then follow the DSiWare Downgrade section for your N3DS.
Link: https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/DSiWare-Downgrade

And then follow the A9LH Guide for your N3DS. On N3DS, getting A9LH is relatively painless and fast once you are on 9.0-9.2.

 

[turbosheep]

A9LH is an entry point. And the best one, since it happens at boot time and has 100% bootrate.


You can do the DSiWare Downgrade, without having to do A9LH. All that matters is that the game is bought from the eshop, and the save file is edited.

However, Plailect's A9LH Guide only covers how to do it if you are using A9LH.

I know a poster here has said it's possible to do it, but has only provided a barebones run down of what do. No steps, or what to download and how. So OP has to figure out how to do this on his own.

While A9LH isn't needed to do the DSiWare Downgrade. OP Should just follow the Guide, not because it's needed, but because it handholds the user and provides all relevant steps.

So anywho. OP, just follow the A9LH Guide on your o3DS console, to have A9LH setup. Then follow the DSiWare Downgrade section for your N3DS.
Link: https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/DSiWare-Downgrade

And then follow the A9LH Guide for your N3DS. On N3DS, getting A9LH is relatively painless and fast once you are on 9.0-9.2.

Thank you, what you say makes a lot of sense. I read some more, and the A9LH stuff sounds like everything happens on the Sysnand partition, no split anymore.
At the one hand, that's awesome, but what if we want to update the system to access certain games or the Eshop? Can we truly safely update Sysnand with this hack?
I wish the guide would have mentioned the A9LH stuff. I followed it without knowing about A9LH - makes a lot more sense if he is talking about everything from a 'Sysnand-only' perspective.

I'll keeping reading more about A9LH, then.

 

[nechigawara]

You can do the DSiWare Downgrade, without having to do A9LH. All that matters is that the game is bought from the eshop, and the save file is edited.

He still having a problem about his SysNAND & EmuNAND are on difference region.
Which I think he should go A9LH, buy Fieldrunners again on USA eshop. And don't bother EU EmuNAND.
Except, his N3DS also in EU. That's will be a problem....

Thanks for correcting me about EmuNAND can do DSiWare Downgrade too.

Thank you, what you say makes a lot of sense. I read some more, and the A9LH stuff sounds like everything happens on the Sysnand partition, no split anymore.
At the one hand, that's awesome, but what if we want to update the system to access certain games or the Eshop? Can we truly safely update Sysnand with this hack?
I wish the guide would have mentioned the A9LH stuff. I followed it without knowing about A9LH - makes a lot more sense if he is talking about everything from a 'Sysnand-only' perspective.

I'll keeping reading more about A9LH, then.

A9LH + Luma3DS is safe to update your system on SysNAND.

 

[Temptress Cerise]

Thank you, what you say makes a lot of sense. I read some more, and the A9LH stuff sounds like everything happens on the Sysnand partition, no split anymore.
At the one hand, that's awesome, but what if we want to update the system to access certain games or the Eshop? Can we truly safely update Sysnand with this hack?
I wish the guide would have mentioned the A9LH stuff. I followed it without knowing about A9LH - makes a lot more sense if he is talking about everything from a 'Sysnand-only' perspective.

I'll keeping reading more about A9LH, then.

He still having a problem about his SysNAND & EmuNAND are on difference region.
Which I think he should go A9LH, buy Fieldrunners again on USA eshop. And don't bother EU EmuNAND.
Except, his N3DS also in EU. That's will be a problem....

Thanks for correcting me about EmuNAND can do DSiWare Downgrade too.



A9LH + Luma3DS is safe to update your system on SysNAND.

Like stated, it's safe.

And he said he installed the USA Fieldrunners on his SysNAND, never did he say he was using a USA console.

So OP, are your o3DS and N3DS from the same region?

 

[turbosheep]

He still having a problem about his SysNAND & EmuNAND are on difference region.
Which I think he should go A9LH, buy Fieldrunners again on USA eshop. And don't bother EU EmuNAND.
Except, his N3DS also in EU. That's will be a problem....

Thanks for correcting me about EmuNAND can do DSiWare Downgrade too.



A9LH + Luma3DS is safe to update your system on SysNAND.

Sorry for the confusion - both my 3DS' (NEW and OG) are EU.
I bought a EU version of Fieldrunners in Emunand on OG.
Then I installed a non-legit USA CIA in Sysnand on OG (to try and get it running in Emu).

Now I know better, and will try installing A9LH on OG.
This way, I can update Sysnand, buy a legit copy again and actually get it to run.