Hacking Can anyone give some reasons why thier is no homebrew development

[Cyan]

I moved all the homebrew release threads and appended "official" tag to them. There's no better tag choice, so I used "official". I'll try to mark released thread like that to easily find homebrew release threads over questions/issues threads.
I also moved the threads related to these homebrew (questions, issues, etc.) up to 20 pages of WiiU hacking section.

I kept in hacking section all threads related to backup loader, homebrew exploit/self hosting installation, or question about TCPGecko (as it's more hacking game question and not technical homebrew question).

I moved SimpliiU too, even if it's not a program run on the console, because it's a SD preparation tool for homebrew. making it easy to use homebrew. not sure if it has its place there or in hacking section.

I'll move older threads if I find any. If you also find old threads related to homebrew development, you can tag me here with a link to the specific thread, or report it (but other moderator are probably not aware about that new section for the moment, we did it quickly today).


Edit:
The wiki is missing some homebrew.
Wiiubru has some without a release thread here (Uclick, keyboard monitor). is there a place I could link to ? probably github.

 

[the_randomizer]

Yeah, manual and icon are cosmetic features that will sure improve game compatiibility, right?


It's a requirement for improving usability. No one would use the homebrew launcher method if they had the option of installing software directly to the system menu.

But the point still stands that homebrew can be made and that we have full kernel access on the Wii U itself, IOSU won't happen for some time, no sense in devs waiting around doing nothing.

 

[lbruckus562]

wii u is a dead console

The ps vita is just about as dead (actually I haven't seen a new vita in a store for a while, yet I see Wii U's) and new homebrew is being cranked out daily for the handheld.

 

[NexoCube]

Personally, i do want to develop stuff, but i have no idea of homebrew to develop, and i don't want to make a mp3 reader or some "useless" stuff like that, i want to do something really useful for the community and entertaining for me

 

[Chakratos]

Personally, i do want to develop stuff, but i have no idea of homebrew to develop, and i don't want to make a mp3 reader or some "useless" stuff like that, i want to do something really useful for the community and entertaining for me

Part1: Develop IOSU
Part2: make a thread at GBATemp about it and showing it with a video proof.
Part3: ???
Part4: sit back while getting entertained from multiple religions that are made just for you. Look at them pray to you.
Important thing: never release anything.

 

[TheZander]

What goes in the subsections?
You have WiiU: hacking, backup loading, homebrew right?

Hacking is for discussion of exploits and code right?
Backup loading is self explanatory I suppose
and homebrew is intended for anything 'none of the above' made or wiiu?

What apps would you like to see made for the wiiu with the given possibilities? Or do you just want to be surprised by some new and innovative idea?

Home made games are cool, but unless a ton of effort goes into it you'll pretty much have a Galaga remake.
Emulators already exist for everything right?
media centers, I don't even know what they could do but people want a music / video / picture library interface thing?


what could be made that would be utilized for an extended period of time?

Does anyone make homebrewed applications for anything anymore? I think time has run it's coarse, it's all been done before. I think homebrew isn't a huge deal as it used to be. Until a console with some new fangled thing comes out, what is there to do with the typical Console / controller get up?

Maybe next generation when VR hits it big, then homebrew people will have some ideas. But nothing has really changed since XBOX/PS2/GC/DC >> It's all the same.

When VR comes out I think hacking consoles and whatever comes of it will be exciting. Until then it's backup loaders. The only thing WiiU users really want IOSU for is becase the current backup laoder has no internet connection. So they can't downlaod Mario Maker levels, or play online in certain games.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I'd like to see a Newer Super Mario Bros. U, still. I'm always excited for game mods

 

[LuigiXHero]

I'd like to see a Newer Super Mario Bros. U, still. I'm always excited for game mods

Newer U is already in the works by the original newer team.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Newer U is already in the works by the original newer team.

GOOD

 

[NexoCube]

Part1: Develop IOSU
Part2: make a thread at GBATemp about it and showing it with a video proof.
Part3: ???
Part4: sit back while getting entertained from multiple religions that are made just for you. Look at them pray to you.
Important thing: never release anything.

Already done by a ton of people

 

[QuarkTheAwesome]

The wiki is missing some homebrew.
Wiiubru has some without a release thread here (Uclick, keyboard monitor). is there a place I could link to ? probably github.

@vgmoose has been keeping wiiubrew pretty well updated, you may be able to convince him to do the same for wikitemp (or just copy-paste that page over).

Rest of the thread, Let's just quickly clear something up:
Since April 2016:

• HID to VPAD was released
• the Chip8 emulator was released
• Ast-U-Roids was ported to HBL
• Cafiine was given a choosable IP
• Bin2MPy was made
• U-Paint was ported to HBL
• Pacman was built, released and subsequently ported to HBL
• HBAS was built, released and is being maintained to this day
  
• Geckiine was built
• The Chip8 emulator was given a GX2 GUI
• Gacubeboy was made and released
• SimpliiU was released
• All those miscellaneous homebrew (LiveSynthesisU, USB Keyboard monitor etc.) were made and released
• Interest has practically exploded (compared to April)
• WUPInstaller had... something happen?
• OurLoader was made, released and has had pretty much constant updates since
  
• A getting-started framework was put together and had an example (UClick) released along with it
• HID to VPAD is currently undergoing vast improvments

Push your search back to March and you also get the coloured cube (the holy grail of GX2 - actual 3D!), ddd, LiteNESU, the other GameBoy emulator and ftpiiu.

That list ignores updates to existing homebrew, Loadiine nightlies, anything I could't find in our shiny new section and anything that just slipped my mind. There's also one or two homebrews that I'm not allowed to mention (despite them being very technically impressive imho.) Let's also not forget all the works-in-progress! Pester ask me for status updates anytime.

Anyway, you make of that list what you will. Please try and be nice though.

 

[DarkIrata]

HID to VPAD upcoming version looks bad. I made the design with paint, don't tell him.

//BTT: Maschell had many things to newly implement to the gx2 gui for the designs i made.. with the current state its hard to develope any kind of gui based homebrew.
To be honest. I would prefere more stable but less Homebrews than x amount of unstable "i made a thing, LOOK AT IT" ones.

With time and better librarys there will be more Homebrews. I'm happy with the current homebrews even if i wished it would be more stable to use some of them.

 

[The Catboy]

Expect there actually is homebrew for the Wii U.

 

[QuarkTheAwesome]

HID to VPAD upcoming version looks bad. I made the design with paint, don't tell him.

I like what I've been seeing in the livecoding steams; it's a nice design that - shock horror - doesn't look like HBL. However, even if you don't like the GUI some of the other features are just plain awesome. As soneone who's a bit lacking on controllers but does have a Gamepad; Pro Controller spoofing will be amazing. Hopefully the 360 network controller system doesn't lag too much; although anything would be better than shaking the Wiimote in Hyrule Warriors ;D

sneaky editing by @Crystal the Glaceon over here, changed the post between me reading it and it being added to the multi-quote. Sneaky.

 

[The Catboy]

I like what I've been seeing in the livecoding steams; it's a nice design that - shock horror - doesn't look like HBL. However, even if you don't like the GUI some of the other features are just plain awesome. As soneone who's a bit lacking on controllers but does have a Gamepad; Pro Controller spoofing will be amazing. Hopefully the 360 network controller system doesn't lag too much; although anything would be better than shaking the Wiimote in Hyrule Warriors ;D

sneaky editing by @Crystal the Glaceon over here, changed the post between me reading it and it being added to the multi-quote. Sneaky.

My post wasn't nearly as thought out as I wanted to be. You's be amazed at my quick editing skills. Plus it turned out I was wrong, so I quickly edited my post to not misinform people.

 

[QuarkTheAwesome]

My post wasn't nearly as thought out as I wanted to be. You's be amazed at my quick editing skills. Plus it turned out I was wrong, so I quickly edited my post to not misinform people.

That was some seriously quick editing. Well, getting rid of misinformation is more than what most people do, so thanks.

 

[Maschell]

HID to VPAD upcoming version looks bad. I made the design with paint, don't tell him.

Yeah, here is a screenshot of the final design. http://puu.sh/rqDTn/dfe8e3f4ce.png

The scene has slow homebrew development, because we don't have many devs and coding something takes really much time (Except you have a region free loader, that can be fully done in less than < 20 lines of code).
I can only speak from the tools I've coded (or helped coded), but all of these project took a massive amount of time (coding + testing + refactoring + writing readmes,wikis,threads,tutorials). And you can't do everything at the same time (and alone).
When I try to improve HID to VPAD, the people want updates for JNUSTool. When I'm working on JNUSTool the people want new features for loadiine. When I'm working on loadiine, the people want HID to VPAD improvements.

Anyway? What kind of homebrew do want for the WiiU (Except piracy stuff)? A media player, emulators? In a time where EVERYONE has smartphone/tablet/smart TV and a raspberry pi costs just a few bucks which can do all this?
I can only think about game mods,system tweaks (HID to VPAD, yay!) and new homebrew games, but maybe I'm just not creative enough.

I've started some other projects like a screenshot tool, a non-network-app dumper, a flappy bird clone which are working as a POC. It just really takes time to create a real homebrew from it, that is stable and noob friendly. If anyone is interested in completing this tools, I would love to share my stuff though.

 

[NexoCube]

• WUPInstaller had... something happen?

 

[Baphomet]

Yeah, here is a screenshot of the final design. http://puu.sh/rqDTn/dfe8e3f4ce.png

I did a mod.
http://imgur.com/a/tSeGN

(Really slow day at work, apologies...)

 

[Cyan]

@vgmoose has been keeping wiiubrew pretty well updated, you may be able to convince him to do the same for wikitemp (or just copy-paste that page over).

oh, I didn't notice they had individual pages for each homebrew.
I wanted to do something like that when it didn't have any lists yet, but I know from background history that xbrew website don't like tools allowing piracy, and that would prevent listing really ALL existing homebrew, like loadiine. So I started a list on wikitemp, but I missed time to create proper individual pages with homebrew screenshot and description.

doing it at two different place is probably a lost of time, and wiiubrew is a better place to list homebrew. I don't want to copy/paste/plagiarize existing info, but maybe we could have some info on wikitemp too.
At least, having a (complete) list of existing homebrew with links to threads/git is a good start. not sure what to do now.