Hacking Is A9LH likely to get easier?

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Oh yeah. This thread exists.
Well, to the OP, you got your answer. A9LH ended up getting easier.
Yup, my personal best so far with the new guide is 35mins. That was from v9.2.0 OFW to v11.0.0 a9lh. I don't even look at the guide during installation anymore, not like before.
 

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Oh yeah. This thread exists.
Well, to the OP, you got your answer. A9LH ended up getting easier.
Is it easier? Or is it just less time-consuming now?

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Why would someone suggest destroying a gateway? That sounds like waste of money. :mellow:
I wouldn't mind having one for collection purposes.

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I followed the guide back when you needed the otp.bin on the SD card... Is there a simple way to make it A9LH v2? I still have all the homebrew I need on the SD card.
 

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Why can't you destroy your gateway? Use only A9LH Luma because It's safer and faster.
I like to have the option. Same reason I still own a copy of Cubic Ninja. Entrypoints etc.

Also, I have a bunch of games loaded as .3ds on my gateway that I can't be bothered converting to .cia.
 

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Is there any reason to keep a Gateway? Should I sell mine off? What do you think?

Same with Cubic Ninja...
 

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Of course it will get easier, it will become a 1 button action cia/3ds/3dz so that the clueless will just need to click on it. There won't be any notifications of failures, errors, oops my bads...NOTHING.
 

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Of course it will get easier, it will become a 1 button action cia/3ds/3dz so that the clueless will just need to click on it. There won't be any notifications of failures, errors, oops my bads...NOTHING.
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now, it's up to nintendo, if they fuck up big enough in a possible future update, we may get an OTPless a9lh for N3DS only , the process would only rely on launching an arm9payload from any means possible (9.2's brahma and others) and bam, arm9loaderhax installed in about 20-30 seconds

but yeah, it's all depending on nintendo now
 
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now, it's up to nintendo, if they fuck up big enough in a possible future update, we may get an OTPless a9lh for N3DS only , the process would only rely on launching an arm9payload from any means possible (9.2's brahma and others) and bam, arm9loaderhax installed in about 20-30 seconds

but yeah, it's all depending on nintendo now
Ninja'd by 6 pages :ph34r:
And of course, that isn't happening.
However, if Nintendo releases a FIRM update, combining it with one of the keys in the secret store might lead to an exploitable jump without getting the OTP. The OTP allows us to decrypt the secret store so we can insert a crafted key that makes the jump, however without the OTP we can swap around the keys in the secret store, which when combined with a new firm Nintendo releases might (very unlikely) make a jump to our payload. This is because the FIRM is different, which means it will decrypt to something different than other firms. Thus, the garbage that it decrypts to using one of the 32 keys in the secret store we can swap around without the OTP might be exploitable.
But there's no reason for it to be n3ds only.
 

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Ninja'd by 6 pages :ph34r:

But there's no reason for it to be n3ds only.
how will you trigger a9lh, if you can't control the contents of the secret sector region in O3ds ? since the O3DS doesn't contain the key store, and it's crypted with a unique value :P
also, you got it wrong, we can only use one of the 31 keys, since the second key will obviously be as useful as a teaspoon for our goal :P
 
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how will you trigger a9lh, if you can't control the contents of the secret sector region in O3ds ? since the O3DS doesn't contain the key store, and it's crypted with a unique value :P
also, you got it wrong, we can only use one of the 31 keys, since the second key will obviously be as useful as a teaspoon for our goal :P
By that logic, there should be no a9lh on o3ds at all. We can write in an arm9loader from n3ds and since it's signed it'll run just fine. Setting up the secret store on o3ds is a thing too. The point is, if we can install n3ds software on o3ds, we should be able to control it like n3ds.
 

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Are you saying it should be impossible to install A9LH in O3dses because they don't have a secret sector? Yet I own 2 o3ds (a normal one and a XL) and both have A9LH...or a facsimile thereof...
 

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By that logic, there should be no a9lh on o3ds at all. We can write in an arm9loader from n3ds and since it's signed it'll run just fine. Setting up the secret store on o3ds is a thing too. The point is, if we can install n3ds software on o3ds, we should be able to control it like n3ds.
i believe you missed my point, on O3DS, the region where the N3DS secret sector is supposed to be is empty, that means that if you move stuff around in there, you won't be able to control what you actually move around, since that area was never initialized with data to be decrypted with the OTP, so how do you want to set some area there that is supposed to be decrypted by OTP, if you don't know the OTP that is supposed to decrypt it. also, the Secret sector is not signed, it's just a blob of encrypted data, nothing more nothing less, if you don't know how the machine is supposed to decrypt it and you don't know what it currently decrypts into, you can't manipulate what it will decrypt into, you would have to bruteforce it and defeat the purpose.

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Are you saying it should be impossible to install A9LH in O3dses because they don't have a secret sector? Yet I own 2 o3ds (a normal one and a XL) and both have A9LH...or a facsimile thereof...
no, with OTP, it's totally possible to setup A9LH in each console in the 3ds family, but without the OTP known, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to set it up in o3ds and 2ds (N3DS could be possible depending on wheather nintendo fucks up or not), that was my point, not that it's impossible to set it up in o3ds or 2ds, i never claimed so, i only claimed that it ain't appening an OTPless a9lh setup process for both (o3ds/2ds) systems
 
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