Hacking [Q] A9LH Process and Gateway Emunand Data

[felystar]

That's correct, just follow Plailect's A9LH Guide, and you and her should be fine.

Pretty lucky I have to admit, yeah you should be clear to go. Make a back up of everything asap.

Thank you so much to both of you, you've really helped me [emoji4]

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[ishygdaft]

Oh hey, good luck with the a9lh installs. If you run into any snags don't hesitate to ask for help.

 

[Jiro2]

If you have your Mii Plaza on your EmuNAND, the procedure for installing a9lh has you make a lot of backups, and one of those backups is the EmuNAND which you will be able to restore into SysNAND at the end of the process. You would then keep your Mii Plaza data.

If you're really worried, you can back up Mii Plaza using JKSM. Be sure to back up F000000B as well (which includes icons shared with Activity Log and Miis shared with Mii Maker). You should not have to use the backup, though, since you would be restoring your EmuNAND backup.

 

[felystar]

If you have your Mii Plaza on your EmuNAND, the procedure for installing a9lh has you make a lot of backups, and one of those backups is the EmuNAND which you will be able to restore into SysNAND at the end of the process. You would then keep your Mii Plaza data.

If you're really worried, you can back up Mii Plaza using JKSM. Be sure to back up F000000B as well (which includes icons shared with Activity Log and Miis shared with Mii Maker). You should not have to use the backup, though, since you would be restoring your EmuNAND backup.

So you mean injecting my emunand into my system nand after installing A9LH... but if anything goes wrong I could brick my console, however I would have Luma3DS installed and I could always inject the backup of my sysnand...

Wait, you mean restoring it into the sysnand after finishing the whole A9LH guide? Wouldn't that delete the hack?

 

[ishygdaft]

So you mean injecting my emunand into my system nand after installing A9LH... but if anything goes wrong I could brick my console, however I would have Luma3DS installed and I could always inject the backup of my sysnand...

Wait, you mean restoring it into the sysnand after finishing the whole A9LH guide? Wouldn't that delete the hack?

You go to 2.1, grab the otp, get back to 9.2 sysnand, boot up your emunand, then with your OTP you can install a9lh using the safea9lh installer. After that you can flash it over to sysnand. The guide will do a much better job explaining it then I can tho.

Hell chances are I got something wrong there but it seems right.

 

[Jiro2]

Wait, you mean restoring it into the sysnand after finishing the whole A9LH guide? Wouldn't that delete the hack?

Yes, I mean that. The guide already tells you to do that, in fact: It is Section IV in part 5 of the guide.

It won't delete the hack. The Hourglass9 tool will protect the hack. Updating firmware from Luma3DS will also protect the hack. However, don't try to update from Gateway, since Gateway doesn't provide such protection and it would delete the hack.

 

[ishygdaft]

Yes, I mean that. The guide already tells you to do that, in fact: It is Section IV in part 5 of the guide.

It won't delete the hack. Luma3DS, and the tools you should use, protect the firmware so you can update without overwriting a9lh. However, don't try to update from Gateway, since Gateway doesn't provide such protection and it would delete the hack.

He wishes to restore his emunand over sysnand. Wouldn't the backup include firm0 and firm1?

 

[Jiro2]

He wishes to restore his emunand over sysnand. Wouldn't the backup include firm0 and firm1?

Hourglass9 will not overwrite those when restoring the backup.

 

[ishygdaft]

Hourglass9 will not overwrite those when restoring the backup.

That is a damn good point.

Oh, @felystar, when you delete emunand for good, it'll format the SD card so make sure you have it backed up before hand.

 

[felystar]

Hourglass9 will not overwrite those when restoring the backup.

In the guide, they backup the emunand as emunand_original.bin and then restore it in section IV, and I think this is the RedNAND, and I thought that it was necessary to copy the RedNAND data to the system nand. However, you are suggesting copying my emunand instead of the RedNAND, wouldn't it affect the process?

Thank you

 

[ishygdaft]

In the guide, they backup the emunand as emunand_original.bin and then restore it in section IV, and I think this is the RedNAND, and I thought that it was necessary to copy the RedNAND data to the system nand. However, you are suggesting copying my emunand instead of the RedNAND, wouldn't it affect the process?

Thank you

Rednand and emunand are basically the same thing in terms of this guide, totally interchangeable. Rednand just happens to be smaller, so the backups are faster.

 

[felystar]

Rednand and emunand are basically the same thing in terms of this guide, totally interchangeable. Rednand just happens to be smaller, so the backups are faster.

Actually I thought that the RedNAND created in the process was important in the section IV and that it couldn't be changed by my emunand. Seems like I was wrong [emoji85]

 

[ishygdaft]

Actually I thought that the RedNAND created in the process was important in the section IV and that it couldn't be changed by my emunand. Seems like I was wrong [emoji85]

Nah, you'll be fine using emunand, as a matter of fact I think it states this in the guide.

 

[felystar]

Nah, you'll be fine using emunand, as a matter of fact I think it states this in the guide.

And today's last question, if I want to use a different SD card, is it that simple as copying everything onto the new one?

 

[ishygdaft]

And today's last question, if I want to use a different SD card, is it that simple as copying everything onto the new one?

Yup, you'll lose emunand since the SD card has to be formatted for it. Just reformat the new one for emunand use and restore it if you still have a use for it after installing a9lh.

 

[felystar]

Yup, you'll lose emunand since the SD card has to be formatted for it. Just reformat the new one for emunand use and restore it if you still have a use for it after installing a9lh.

I will basically remove the emunand when I install A9LH xD

 

[ishygdaft]

I will basically remove the emunand when I install A9LH xD

I still keep my emunand around because of the 11.0 update, I know the backdoors for downgrading have been re-implemented but stuff's scary, I like my options. It's a safety net for my safety net.

 

[felystar]

I still keep my emunand around because of the 11.0 update, I know the backdoors for downgrading have been re-implemented but stuff's scary, I like my options. It's a safety net for my safety net.

But you can play any game on Luma 3DS, why would you keep it then?

 

[ishygdaft]

But you can play any game on Luma 3DS, why would you keep it then?

When they threw that hardcoded downgrade list out there I got worried "what else will they mess up" So, I decided to make an emunand in the unlikely event that they perma ruin a9lh in some way. I mean I'm 99% sure they can't/won't do anything.. just being overly cautious.
I also like to test really stupid firm modifications so it's nice to know I can brick emunand for days and restore it easy, same can be said for sysnand but if anything ever got botched I'd have a nice paper weight.

 

[EmperorOfCanada]

You go to 2.1, grab the otp, get back to 9.2 sysnand, boot up your emunand, then with your OTP you can install a9lh using the safea9lh installer. After that you can flash it over to sysnand. The guide will do a much better job explaining it then I can tho.

Hell chances are I got something wrong there but it seems right.

You just install A9LH right on 2.1 now. As long as you have a nand backup to restore, that's essentially it. No need to go to 9.2 to install a9