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I've never held a grudge against LGBT people. However, I think pride parades actually hurt their pride. Things get a bit extreme in these parades and to me, LGBT people are really much better than that. Anyone is a normal human being and can live as a normal human being if he/she isn't an extremist. I applaud all the members of the LGBT community who don't live with the need to show off their sexuality. Having to show off your sexuality for mercy means you have a weak personality because that's all it is about imo. I would totally support any LGBT person if he/she needed my help.
 
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The Bible explicitly condones slavery.
That's what I'm talking about when I said context is essential. Slavery in that culture was something very different. It was a way to pay off debt. If you don't understand the history and culture, you end up with a completely different idea. In addition, most of the Bible is just things that happened, and laws that existed. It is history in itself, not instructions for what to do.

Edit: @Elysium420 has a point. The topic is going off rail. Sorry about that.
 
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I'm bisexual. I uh, think the whole LGBT thing is extremely annoying-my sexual orientation does not automatically make me part of some community or whatever

that, and I'm 11 years old. I could care a bit less whether they have a pride day or not, but I essentially don't care. I don't identify with LGBT or whatever, and I probably never will.

That, and being proud of your sexual orientation is next to pointless. :P
 

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I'm bisexual. I uh, think the whole LGBT thing is extremely annoying-my sexual orientation does not automatically make me part of some community or whatever

that, and I'm 11 years old. I could care a bit less whether they have a pride day or not, but I essentially don't care. I don't identify with LGBT or whatever, and I probably never will.

That, and being proud of your sexual orientation is next to pointless. :P
I don't know how to say this, but...don't you think you're a bit young to make such a huge decision? I mean, have you ever truly been attracted to someone, or was it one of those "eh, he/she is alright" kind of things? I'm not trying to say it's wrong or anything, just that you're the youngest person I've ever heard say that! :)
 

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I'm bisexual. I uh, think the whole LGBT thing is extremely annoying-my sexual orientation does not automatically make me part of some community or whatever

that, and I'm 11 years old. I could care a bit less whether they have a pride day or not, but I essentially don't care. I don't identify with LGBT or whatever, and I probably never will.

That, and being proud of your sexual orientation is next to pointless. :P
then again i am also a person who honestly thinks you're 11 you haven't even hit puberty yet how the hell does one figure out their sexuality before they even hit puberty, i don't believe in it
 
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In my opinion, the whole LGBT community, pride day, and these parades are just stupid. I couldn't care less if you're gay/bisexual/transgender as long as you don't try to make me care. Stupid stuff like this parade is just going to make everyone see LGBT people as some disease, and that they're so different from everyone else, when what they should actually be doing is participating in public events, and just being a part of society.

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I'm bisexual. I uh, think the whole LGBT thing is extremely annoying-my sexual orientation does not automatically make me part of some community or whatever

that, and I'm 11 years old. I could care a bit less whether they have a pride day or not, but I essentially don't care. I don't identify with LGBT or whatever, and I probably never will.

That, and being proud of your sexual orientation is next to pointless. :P
Hate to be that guy, but aren't you a little young to be deciding your sexuality? A lot of people aren't even sexually attracted to anyone at that age.
 

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Pride parades are a nuisance. Not because I hate the LGBT community. It's for the fact that you do not need to throw your sexuality in anyone's face. Be proud of who you are, but don't have so much pride you start to build an ego. Parades should be in celebration of something big. Independence day Parades for one.

Another side to that, if the gays and Trans gender folk get one. Wheres the heterosexual parades? What about parades for gamers? Furries? Hm. Now I'm just talking to talk.
 
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That's what I'm talking about when I said context is essential. Slavery in that culture was something very different. It was a way to pay off debt. If you don't understand the history and culture, you end up with a completely different idea.
Regardless of how people got themselves into slavery, for how long, or whom the rules applied to, the Bible is explicitly condoning the ownership of people, which is immoral under any circumstance. Either way, slavery in that culture absolutely was not something very different. The Bible also condones obeying one's master, beating slaves to within an inch of their lives, and gives a set of instructions for how to trick a slave into becoming one's permanent property in order to stay with his family.

I'm not looking to turn this thread into a debate on slavery in the Bible, especially since I don't personally care what the Bible has to say on this topic or any other, but it's pretty disingenuous and incorrect to say, "The Bible doesn't condone slavery as we know it, and to disagree is to be ignorant of context."
 

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Um.... Your point?
My point is that many prominent characters in media are gay, and no one raises complaints about it. Your statement was that LGBT can't get into media without people raising a huge stink about it. What about Ellen Degeneres? The Simpsons have also had gay characters. So long as the fact of "gay gay gay accept the gays!!!" Isn't shoved down people's throats, they're not going to object to it. And if they do, it's a tiny minority of older people stuck in their mindsets.
 

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My point is that many prominent characters in media are gay, and no one raises complaints about it. Your statement was that LGBT can't get into media without people raising a huge stink about it. What about Ellen Degeneres? The Simpsons have also had gay characters. So long as the fact of "gay gay gay accept the gays!!!" Isn't shoved down people's throats, they're not going to object to it. And if they do, it's a tiny minority of older people stuck in their mindsets.
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Regardless of how people got themselves into slavery, for how long, or whom the rules applied to, the Bible is explicitly condoning the ownership of people, which is immoral under any circumstance. Either way, slavery in that culture absolutely was not something very different. The Bible also condones obeying one's master, beating slaves to within an inch of their lives, and gives a set of instructions for how to trick a slave into becoming one's permanent property in order to stay with his family.
They could quit whenever they wanted. It was similar to an indentured servant. That's pretty different from permanent property as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure where you got your information, but it certainly wasn't from careful study. Sounds more like you just read an article online and decided you knew what you were talking about. I'm done discussing it though.
 
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Don't get me started on transgender. I'm sorry, but it isn't normal in any sense of the word. You can do anything you want with your body. Do dangerous surgeries (I perfer you don't) to change yourself or don't, and still try to claim you are the other gender, but I can't 100% agree with them.
You know what's really not normal? The treatment I've gotten for being transgender. I've been stalked, harassed, nearly assaulted, I've had people lie about me in an attempt to get me fired from my job, I've gotten death threats, and so much more. I've done nothing wrong to anyone, yet so many people treat me like a threat. It's not me who is abnormal, it's how people treat me that is. I am just a normal girl living my normal life, yet somehow that upsets people.


We don't need parades
We don't need your sexuality rubbed in our faces
We especially don't need your non-biological gender rubber in
What we do need is for you to grow up and realize
about 80% of us don't give a single fuck about where you stick your genitals and the minority that do, who gives a fuck about them as there's always gonna be opposition towards anything ever
Unless you are on Tumblr, most of the LGBT+ doesn't do any of this. But people say we do.
You show an LGBT+ character on TV, "STOP SHOVING YOUR SEXUALITY/GENDER IN OUR FACES!!!"
Two lovers walk down the street holding hands, "STOP SHOVING YOUR SEXUALITY/GENDER IN OUR FACES!!!"
I work openly as a transgender girl, "STOP SHOVING YOUR SEXUALITY/GENDER IN OUR FACES!!! BTW THEY SHOULD BE FIRED BECAUSE THEY MIGHT TOUCH MY KIDS!" (This was a real paraphrased complaint about me from a person who only saw me working.)
No matter what someone does, it's "shoving their sexuality in your face." When in reality, that's not what they are doing.
There is a difference here. If you really want to see what it's like for someone to shove their sexuality/gender down your throat, go to Tumblr or look up Lizzy the Lezzy
 
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