Hacking o3ds 4.2 play DS games without reinstalling gateway everytime?

[hisagishi]

So I have an o3ds on version 4.2 with gateway (gateway emunand is on version 9.2) My question is, what do I need to do in order to not need to reinstall the exploit every single time I want to play a DS game?

 

[muskieratboi]

use sysupdater to upgrade sysnand to 9.2, ditch the gateway, and install RXTools and Menuhax? then you avoid TWL_FIRM entirely and can play DS games whenever.

 

[Quantumcat]

So I have an o3ds on version 4.2 with gateway (gateway emunand is on version 9.2) My question is, what do I need to do in order to not need to reinstall the exploit every single time I want to play a DS game?

Probably do as the poster above suggested. Menuhax autobooting is way better. Since you have a 9.2 emuNAND you could flash it to sysNAND to update (wait for confirmation that's safe before doing it). To do this you would backup your emuNAND using emuNAND tool, name the backup NAND.bin, but it on your SD card, load the gateway menu and choose restore NAND.

Or, people have had success getting the DS profile exploit to stick on n3DS, maybe the method would work on an old 3DS too. Search the forums for ds profile stuck.

 

[hisagishi]

Is there a way to do it without the any of the "hax" exploits? I don't really feel comfortable using them for some reason. Would just RXtools or Reinand work for this? I have a DSTWO if that helps any.

Would I still be able to load 3ds games with gateway? or would I need to get a decent sized SD card, convert to CIA, etc?

Also doesn't 9.2+ require a stable internet connection at all times for the exploit to work? I read that somewhere but I could be completely off base.

 

[Lacius]

If you update your sysNAND to 9.2, you can actually use menuhax to boot Gateway emuNAND. To update your sysNAND to 9.2, I recommend you setup rxTools using this guide and carefully follow the portion titled How to Update your 3DS/2DS to 9.0 or 9.2.

Edit: To address your other concern, you do not require an internet connection on 9.2 sysNAND in order for menuhax to work.

 

[daxtsu]

Is there a way to do it without the any of the "hax" exploits? I don't really feel comfortable using them for some reason.

If you mean you're uncomfortable with using a game, you can still use browserhax through the browser. But otherwise, if even the browser is out of the question, then no, you have no way of running code, and thus no way of running Gateway/CFW.

Also doesn't 9.2+ require a stable internet connection at all times for the exploit to work? I read that somewhere but I could be completely off base.

That was in the past. Now that we have MenuHax and all of the game exploits, the Internet isn't needed for Gateway nor CFW.

 

[hisagishi]

Before I go ahead with this is there any reason to stay on 4.5?(sysnand)

Also, are there any major differences between CFW? Is some just plain better than others?

 

[Quantumcat]

Before I go ahead with this is there any reason to stay on 4.5?(sysnand)

Also, are there any major differences between CFW? Is some just plain better than others?

The only reason to stay on 4.5 would be incompatibility of saves in physical game cartridges (not sure on details, but do some reading. I think relevant only to pokemon?)

Other than that, menuhax is a big leap forward from the DS profile exploit and well worth pursuing. For old 3DS, rxtools is generally recommended but I hear Cakes works too.

 

[Quantumcat]

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[daxtsu]

The only reason to stay on 4.5 would be incompatibility of saves in physical game cartridges (not sure on details, but do some reading. I think relevant only to pokemon?)

Other than that, menuhax is a big leap forward from the DS profile exploit and well worth pursuing. For old 3DS, rxtools is generally recommended but I hear Cakes works too.

Isn't that what the new Gateway 7.x+ and 7.x- modes are for? I think you're supposed to use those to get the saves with SDF, then you can reapply them properly.

 

[Quantumcat]

Isn't that what the new Gateway 7.x+ and 7.x- modes are for? I think you're supposed to use those to get the saves with SDF, then you can reapply them properly.

Yeah that sounds familiar, probably all he has to do to keep his saves safe is back them up before updating to 9.2.

 

[daxtsu]

Yeah that sounds familiar, probably all he has to do to keep his saves safe is back them up before updating to 9.2.

That's what I would do, yes. Having the raw saves from SDF or SVDT in a folder on a PC somewhere is a safe bet.

 

[hisagishi]

This might be a stupid question but, how much different is RXtools from Gateway emunand? Would one possibly support newer FW/games faster than the other? I'd hate to not be able to play games because I was using one or the other.

Also heres another question, theres no chance of gateway bricking my 3ds because I'm not using THEIR gateway emunand is there?

 

[Quantumcat]

This might be a stupid question but, how much different is RXtools from Gateway emunand? Would one possibly support newer FW/games faster than the other? I'd hate to not be able to play games because I was using one or the other.

Also heres another question, theres no chance of gateway bricking my 3ds because I'm not using THEIR gateway emunand is there?

The emunand part is identical between CFWs. Different CFWs have different patches, for example in some you can play DS carts and in others you can't. The emunand is exactly the same though. You could have it so that you boot into rxTools in a different way to Gateway, so if one day you forget your red cart you can still play all the games you installed (just not the ones in the red cart in the Select menu).

There's no way Gateway will brick you for using a CFW, only if you use a clone Gateway over the safe GW version. For example using a DSTwo+ over 3.4.1 is a bad idea.

 

[hisagishi]

I think I screwed something up. I decided just do everything over again and messed up somewhere along the way. I formatted my SD card and I understandably can't get into emunand but I also can't get into gateway menu via holding L. so I figured it was probably the MSET exploit being screwy so I popped in my DStwo and the DS isn't recognizing anything is plugged in. I also tried with the red gateway card and its not showing anything inserted either. Does the MSET exploit block DS carts from showing up in sysnand?

Edit: I should also mention I am just trying to get the gateway menu to do a nand backup for my 4.5 then I will go up to 9.2 and use a different entry point.

 

[cooroxd]

use sysupdater to upgrade sysnand to 9.2, ditch the gateway, and install RXTools and Menuhax? then you avoid TWL_FIRM entirely and can play DS games whenever.

Or you can dual boot rxtools and gateway via menuhax and ctrbootmanager. Best of both worlds.

 

[hisagishi]

Is there a way to follow this guide without wifi? all the while making a backup of sysnand 4.5 and updating to 9.2 so I can use homemenuhax?

https://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-installing-rxtools-custom-firmware-3ds-and-2ds.390867/

 

[Quantumcat]

Is there a way to follow this guide without wifi? all the while making a backup of sysnand 4.5 and updating to 9.2 so I can use homemenuhax?

https://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-installing-rxtools-custom-firmware-3ds-and-2ds.390867/

If you have a DS flashcart and are on 4.x you won't need the internet at all. Make sure you skip the sections that aren't relevant to you (it contains instructions for every possible combination of circumstances).
To update to 9.2, you have to have rxTools working on 4.5 and have the version that has DevMode or PastaMode as an option in the menu. Install sysupdater.cia on your home menu in sysnand. Download the correct update files for your region and console type from 'that' iso site, put them in an 'updates' folder on your SD card, boot into rxtools and choose DevMode or PastaMode (definitely not rxMode), open sysupdater (read the info on the screen carefully to make sure you've done what it says), then choose update.

Note that on 9.0-9.2 you will want wifi to be able to install menuhax (you can get around this by downloading the payload and putting it on the SD card manually). If the reason you wanted to do it without wifi though was because you didn't have an internet browser, once you update to 9.2 you will have one.

 

[hisagishi]

If you have a DS flashcart and are on 4.x you won't need the internet at all. Make sure you skip the sections that aren't relevant to you (it contains instructions for every possible combination of circumstances).
To update to 9.2, you have to have rxTools working on 4.5 and have the version that has DevMode or PastaMode as an option in the menu. Install sysupdater.cia on your home menu in sysnand. Download the correct update files for your region and console type from 'that' iso site, put them in an 'updates' folder on your SD card, boot into rxtools and choose DevMode or PastaMode (definitely not rxMode), open sysupdater (read the info on the screen carefully to make sure you've done what it says), then choose update.

Note that on 9.0-9.2 you will want wifi to be able to install menuhax (you can get around this by downloading the payload and putting it on the SD card manually). If the reason you wanted to do it without wifi though was because you didn't have an internet browser, once you update to 9.2 you will have one.

Ok, I'll try that. thanks.

I can't use wifi because I don't have it where I'm at currently.

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Hmmm interesting. I can't get the 3ds to recognize any cart inserted. I have tried, Gateway red/blue, DStwo, and a retail pokemon black DS. It also won't put me in the gateway menu when I go into DS profile settings holding L. It just kicks me back to sysnand and says an error has occured and needs to reboot.