Hacking [Poll] Cakes vs Rxtools

[duffmmann]

>Most of the posts are "never tried cakes too lazy used rxtools from the beginning"
>mfw Cakes was released for three whole days before rxTools got official signature patches, and development was started roughly a week before the unofficial sig patches for rxTools were released (at which time b1l1s had a POC I was happily playing around with already).
I actually considered releasing that POC, or some "preview" to build op hype, but I didn't. Mostly because I didn't want the stress. (ask @Apache Thunder if he's still got the first working spider builds, he was the main tester. I still have the POC which only works on MSET 4.x if someone's interested).
EDIT: Just remembered one of the reason I didn't release any preview. the firmware.bin had to be patched manually, and legal stuffs when redistributing it pre-patched. Also, the emuNAND patches had to be edited manually for your emuNAND type.

Hey man, I appreciate Cakes, I had it for a few days. But at a certain point, something about RXTools won me over, i think I was trying to get the autoboot of the original release of themehax to work properly. I remember that I found they suggested RXTools, so I made the change, and I noticed a high improvement in start up rate (this was before themehax 2 when successful boots were 10 to 25% of the time at best). And I think that was ultimately what had won me over, I've since stayed because the service has continued to be fantastic. I'm sure cakes is still great too, I did enjoy it when I had it. But I also noted how there wasn't anything cakes was doing that RXTools now can't do either. You certainly do win in my book by virtue of being first, however, RXTools won me over with more successful boots when those were a pain in the ass to get consistently and honestly a slicker and nicer interface as well.

 

[PandaMayFire]

RxTools is about the only thing I use, mainly because it just happens to serve all of my needs.

 

[AtlasFontaine]

RxTool is the only thing that I tried and works wonderfull for me so, I choose Rx.

 

[Datalogger]

Guess I'm like the only one that still uses reiNAND.
Works fine for me and, thanks to d0k3, boots fine from Ninjhax2.x

 

[dimmidice]

i never used cakes so RX wins by default for me

 

[Reisyukaku]

Guess I'm like the only one that still uses reiNAND.
Works fine for me and, thanks to d0k3, boots fine from Ninjhax2.x

I-I use it too! lol

>Most of the posts are "never tried cakes too lazy used rxtools from the beginning"
>mfw Cakes was released for three whole days before rxTools got official signature patches, and development was started roughly a week before the unofficial sig patches for rxTools were released (at which time b1l1s had a POC I was happily playing around with already).
I actually considered releasing that POC, or some "preview" to build op hype, but I didn't. Mostly because I didn't want the stress. (ask @Apache Thunder if he's still got the first working spider builds, he was the main tester. I still have the POC which only works on MSET 4.x if someone's interested).
EDIT: Just remembered one of the reason I didn't release any preview. the firmware.bin had to be patched manually, and legal stuffs when redistributing it pre-patched. Also, the emuNAND patches had to be edited manually for your emuNAND type.

>tfw ive seen people argue in favor of rxtools because it has mset on n3ds and they didnt realise reiNand does too (even though reiNand was the first public cfw, besides GW, to use 9.x DG MSET).
feelsbadman.jpg

 

[Suiginou]

>tfw ive seen people argue in favor of rxtools because it has mset on n3ds and they didnt realise reiNand does too (even though reiNand was the first public cfw, besides GW, to use 9.x DG MSET).
feelsbadman.jpg

Didn't Cakes actually pioneer that? Though you're the first with it on N3DS.

 

[Sono]

i think it's not about "since the beginning of cfw development", but "since the beginning of someone trying a cfw" (at least in my case) and it can be anytime, not necessarily on the release timeframe i was aware of all cfw yet i was still using my gateway, some people knew there are cakes n rx and they did't jump rightaway and use pasta, etc. two biggest factor why rx is more popular in my opinion:
- it's usually on the top of front page of this subforum. so people will see it first, naturally, try it first.
- there are people like me who are lazy enough not to test every cfw after i find the first one is working and satisfy my need. but still, maybe it's a coincidence i tried rx first, but can't say i won't try rx if i tried cakes first, because rx has xorpad generator. so beside of lazyness, less benefits to try cakes is another factor for me. people who try rx first may not try cakes at all because all they heard was slightly better boot rate and the one they are using now isn't horrible bootrate. but people who try cakes first probably will try rx at some point because of the xorpads, some may jump ship, or still prefer cakes but keep rx on the side.

To be honest, I used Palatine for a long time, but the "cyan screen of death" (<1% bootrate) annoyed me to hell, so I switched to rxTools. Also, rxTools has a bootmenu-xorpadgenerator, but I used devmode and sysnand-rxMode too.

 

[mid-kid]

i think it's not about "since the beginning of cfw development", but "since the beginning of someone trying a cfw" (at least in my case) and it can be anytime

I meant since rxTools was released.

- it's usually on the top of front page of this subforum. so people will see it first, naturally, try it first.

In the timeframe I still looked there (when the pasta team took over), it was being mostly bumped because of bug reports and people having problems with it. I don't know if it's still the case (I seriously hope not), but that wasn't necessarily a good thing.

because rx has xorpad generator.

Ever heard of Decrypt9? It generates xorpads and much more (especially since @d0k3 added a ton of useful features).
I've never added those features into Cakes because there's already a ton of programs which do the same, and much better at that, too.

As a side note, a thing that sometimes pisses me off is when people won't send me bug reports, but instead go around saying things like "hurrrp, won't work on my console, cakes is shit". I can not test on every device, since I don't own them all. All I know is it works perfectly on my console (Aqua blue old 3ds), and the bootrate decreased in homemenuhax 2.5 (It always worked on 2.1), which is why I'm working on a solution which won't depend on the hax payload, so it won't break every other update.

 

[insidexdeath]

rxTools for me mainly for convenience of not having to load anything else to generate xorpads.

 

[Reisyukaku]

Didn't Cakes actually pioneer that? Though you're the first with it on N3DS.

No, I added in the ROP to my fork of CakeHax, then sent a pull request to them. Hence why im credited for Mset on there, lol. Cakes team doesnt have a N3DS anyways.

 

[Shadowtrance]

Reinand (or Cakes if you wish (i use it at times), Reinand for me) + Decrypt9 all the way (or gateway if i feel like using it)... rxTools doesn't even factor into the equation for me anymore to be honest.

 

[Hayleia]

rxTools for me for now. For a very stupid reason. I have no idea what Cakes does that rxTools doesn't. I mean, from Cakes's first post, you can read (basically) "rxTools's features plus .cake patches". But there is no list of these patches anywhere (except maybe once we download, but we need a reason to download before downloading ). And then when people ask what's the difference, the answer is (basically) "meh". So yeah, maybe I'm missing the most awesome CFW ever but a bit more clarity and a bit less auto-counter-advertising would be great I guess.
Anyways, I'll give Cakes a try, because even if it only does what rxTools does, well at least I don't lose anything

 

[Ronhero]

Gateway for the boot rate on the n3ds. Cakes /Rei if I had to pick a n3ds cfw and rx for o3ds

 

[I_AM_L_FORCE]

Palantine

 

[Drak0rex]

Palantine

How does this post contribute to the thread in any way? It is neither one of the two choices given.

 

[daxtsu]

Reinand on N3DS (plus decrypt9 when I need to dump games), for its minimalism. If I still had a working o3DS, I'd use Cakes, again, for its minimalism.

 

[I_AM_L_FORCE]

How does this post contribute to the thread in any way? It is neither one of the two choices given.

Let me look at the poles again. "Another specify". Oh how ironic.

 

[Drak0rex]

Let me look at the poles again. "Another specify". Oh how ironic.

"Which CFW for booting emunand do you like the most right now? Why?"

Irony is lost on you. Though I am curious as to why Palantine is your favorite, as you never did give a reason. I never hear anyone recommend it over cakes or rxtools.

 

[Apostrophe]

I used rxTools for a while until I tried Cakes and found out it boots emunand faster than rxTools. Since that's what I use my CFW for 99% of the time I just use Cakes, and use Decrypt9 on the rare occasion I need xorpads.