Should i pick a PS4 or a Wii U?

[TecXero]

Why do people believe this? Nintendo doesn't plan on even talking about the NX until next year, probably not to be release until November 2017, and I'd say it's more likely to be a handheld than a home console given the 3DS is older than the Wii U. The game has been developed with the Wii U Gamepad in mind, and I think Nintendo would have to know it would hurt their reputation to promise people they'd be getting a Zelda game on this console only to pull it away and make them purchase another console before getting Zelda. I guarantee that Zelda is coming to the Wii U.

Yeah, that's an odd bit of speculation that has popped up recently that has made little sense to me. Nintendo has pulled stupid moves in the past, but generally not to that degree. It seems like people have forgotten that consoles are normally talked about a few years before release. Even then, it's more likely to be a handheld, as Nintendo typically releases the next generation handheld before the next generation console.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Why do people believe this? Nintendo doesn't plan on even talking about the NX until next year, probably not to be release until November 2017, and I'd say it's more likely to be a handheld than a home console given the 3DS is older than the Wii U. The game has been developed with the Wii U Gamepad in mind, and I think Nintendo would have to know it would hurt their reputation to promise people they'd be getting a Zelda game on this console only to pull it away and make them purchase another console before getting Zelda. I guarantee that Zelda is coming to the Wii U.

I said "afraid", not "sure". I didn't even say it was LIKELY. It's just something to consider.

Nintendo has recently taken what seems to be a "fuck you" attitude when it comes to Zelda. They delayed the release to at least next year, and decided not to give any info on it this E3. It also would hardly be the first game to be cancelled (or moved to a different console) because the system isn't doing well. Zelda Ura is an example. The N64DD did poorly, so they decided not to finish the game.

As for it replacing the 3DS, that seems very unlikely. They just released a new upgraded 3DS a few months ago, and they won't be giving up on what is showing to be a huge success.

Btw, I edited my post to make my point a little more clear.

Yeah, that's an odd bit of speculation that has popped up recently that has made little sense to me. Nintendo has pulled stupid moves in the past, but generally not to that degree. It seems like people have forgotten that consoles are normally talked about a few years before release. Even then, it's more likely to be a handheld, as Nintendo typically releases the next generation handheld before the next generation console.

As I stated above, they released a new 3DS system just a few months ago.

 

[TecXero]

I said "afraid", not "sure". I didn't even say it was LIKELY. It's just something to consider.

Nintendo has recently taken what seems to be a "fuck you" attitude when it comes to Zelda. They delayed the release to at least next year, and decided not to give any info on it this E3. It also would hardly be the first game to be cancelled (or moved to a different console) because the system isn't doing well. Zelda Ura is an example. The N64DD did poorly, so they decided not to finish the game.

As for it replacing the 3DS, that seems very unlikely. They just released a new upgraded 3DS a few months ago, and they won't be giving up on what is showing to be a huge success.

Btw, I edited my post to make my point a little more clear.


As I stated above, they released a new 3DS system just a few months ago.

Nintendo has released new, upgraded models of handhelds and then released the next generation a couple of years later before. Also, Nintendo has delayed games a lot and generally don't talk about it.

 

[Philip3ds]

I suggest you get a wii u, because most of the games are awesome like Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros 4.

 

[grossaffe]

Nintendo has recently taken what seems to be a "fuck you" attitude when it comes to Zelda. They delayed the release to at least next year, and decided not to give any info on it this E3. It also would hardly be the first game to be cancelled (or moved to a different console) because the system isn't doing well. Zelda Ura is an example. The N64DD did poorly, so they decided not to finish the game.

Delaying it is hardly a "fuck you" attitude, it just needs more time. They often have delays, which is probably part of the reason why they like to hold off on giving us information until a game is nearing completion. Twilight Princess also got delayed, and while it did find its way to the Wii, it still came out for the Gamecube after so many years of development as a Gamecube game. The Wii had already been announced (like, for real announced and not just mentioned in passing) by the time TP had been delayed.

As for it replacing the 3DS, that seems very unlikely. They just released a new upgraded 3DS a few months ago, and they won't be giving up on what is showing to be a huge success.

The window between the DSi's release and the 3DS's release is about two years. If the NX is released in 2017 that would give the n3DS as much or more time than the DSi had.

The narrative that Zelda U which was developed for 4 years to be a Wii U title and make use of the Wii U's unique gamepad is suddenly being shipped off to another console just doesn't make any sense

 

[BullyWiiPlaza]

The Wii U is basically dead or never was alive to begin with so there's no point in even getting it. It's system is slow, not very useful overall for the gaming perspective (e.g. friendlist management) and there are many other issues with it like freezes. The PS4 however is more powerful, popular and won't be deprecated for many more years.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Delaying it is hardly a "fuck you" attitude, it just needs more time. They often have delays, which is probably part of the reason why they like to hold off on giving us information until a game is nearing completion. Twilight Princess also got delayed, and while it did find its way to the Wii, it still came out for the Gamecube after so many years of development as a Gamecube game. The Wii had already been announced (like, for real announced and not just mentioned in passing) by the time TP had been delayed.

They had a steady stream of information about Twilight Princess during the delays though.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

The Wii U is basically dead or never was alive to begin with so there's no point in even getting it. It's system is slow, not very useful overall for the gaming perspective (e.g. friendlist management) and there are many other issues with it like freezes. The PS4 however is more powerful, popular and won't be deprecated for many more years.

I've had no issues with freezes, and there are a handful of great games on the Wii U that make it worth it IMO.
But like I said, it depends on which games he likes.

 

[Demifiend]

I've had no issues with freezes, and there are a handful of great games on the Wii U that make it worth it IMO.
But like I said, it depends on which games he likes.

I like good and innovative games, with a lot of variety and excellent music.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

I like good and innovative games, with a lot of variety and excellent music.

That's kinda vague.
But Nintendo are certainly more innovative than most, and just about every game they make has great music.
If you're of the "AAA game" crowd then the Wii U is probably not for you, but if you like the unique style of Nintendo's games then go with the Wii U.

 

[Foxi4]

I'll tell you my stance on it. If you're okay with playing just Nintendo games that are few and far between, get the Wii U. I think it's a brilliantly designed system that's fun to play on and it would've been top-of-the line had it been released in the time period when it belongs - as a competitor of the Xbox 360 and the PS3. Unfortunately, the hardware has proven to be poor in comparison to the PS4 or the Xbox One and that coupled with Nintendo's poor negotiation tactics with third-party developers resulted in a library of almost exclusively first and second-party games, discounting the few AAA titles released for the system close to launch. Bethesda's conference was yesterday, they've presented several games including Doom 4, Dishonored: Definitive Edition, Dishonored 2 and Fallout 4 - none of those are coming to the Wii U, they're all PC/PS4/Xbox One. I think it's safe to say that other developers will follow suit and skip the Wii U altogether as it's been the case for the last couple of months, and this is worrying, because that's the line-up of games that are due to be released.

On the flip side, the PS4 lacks any Nintendo content (for obvious reasons), but it's a major platform for all AAA developers and on top of that, it offers Sony's exclusive titles. It's a very good bargain for the price and it's sure to provide entertainment for years to come with little to no dry spots in-between releases. The next gen is kicking in and it shows after watching the first conference this year - the PS3 and the Xbox 360 are going away, making way for the PS4 and the Xbox One.

I personally have access to both and I think that owning both systems, preferably coupled with a PC, is the best way to have a taste of both worlds, but unfortunately this is not an option for the less wealthy. After weighing all the pros and cons, I would lean towards buying the PS4 and investing in a Wii U later on in its life span when the systems inevitably land in the bargain bin - that's the time to pick'em up and catch up with Nintendo's first-party offering. This might be a controversial opinion on a website called GBAtemp, but the way I see it, I love games more than I love Nintendo and I dislike the fact that once again they're trying to dupe people into buying their obsolete hardware in order to play their exclusives. I'm sorry, but this time around they just missed the par and I can't recommend the system even though I like the idea behind it and the gamepad. It just suffers from low-performing hardware, a lack of a built-in HDD drive, no BluRay or DVD compatibility and a myriad of other poor design choices - if you're looking for a good entertainment hub, the Wii U is not it, it's a machine built exclusively for Nintendo games, that's not how it was initially advertised. Nintendo's "return to the core gamer" just falls flat.

 

[gudenau]

I would have to say Wii U, it has some great games. The gamepad allows for some great mechanics, but as far as I know only Splatoon really uses it "well".

 

[Demifiend]

I'll tell you my stance on it. If you're okay with playing just Nintendo games that are few and far between, get the Wii U. I think it's a brilliantly designed system that's fun to play on and it would've been top-of-the line had it been released in the time period when it belongs - as a competitor of the Xbox 360 and the PS3. Unfortunately, the hardware has proven to be poor in comparison to the PS4 or the Xbox One and that coupled with Nintendo's poor negotiation tactics with third-party developers resulted in a library of almost exclusively first and second-party games, discounting the few AAA titles released for the system close to launch. Bethesda's conference was yesterday, they've presented several games including Doom 4, Dishonored: Definitive Edition, Dishonored 2 and Fallout 4 - none of those are coming to the Wii U, they're all PC/PS4/Xbox One. I think it's safe to say that other developers will follow suit and skip the Wii U altogether as it's been the case for the last couple of months, and this is worrying, because that's the line-up of games that are due to be released.

On the flip side, the PS4 lacks any Nintendo content (for obvious reasons), but it's a major platform for all AAA developers and on top of that, it offers Sony's exclusive titles. It's a very good bargain for the price and it's sure to provide entertainment for years to come with little to no dry spots in-between releases. The next gen is kicking in and it shows after watching the first conference this year - the PS3 and the Xbox 360 are going away, making way for the PS4 and the Xbox One.

I personally have access to both and I think that owning both systems, preferably coupled with a PC, is the best way to have a taste of both worlds, but unfortunately this is not an option for the less wealthy. After weighing all the pros and cons, I would lean towards buying the PS4 and investing in a Wii U later on in its life span when the systems inevitably land in the bargain bin - that's the time to pick'em up and catch up with Nintendo's first-party offering. This might be a controversial opinion on a website called GBAtemp, but the way I see it, I love games more than I love Nintendo and I dislike the fact that once again they're trying to dupe people into buying their obsolete hardware in order to play their exclusives. I'm sorry, but this time around they just missed the par and I can't recommend the system even though I like the idea behind it and the gamepad. It just suffers from low-performing hardware, a lack of a built-in HDD drive, no BluRay or DVD compatibility and a myriad of other poor design choices - if you're looking for a good entertainment hub, the Wii U is not it, it's a machine built exclusively for Nintendo games, that's not how it was initially advertised. Nintendo's "return to the core gamer" just falls flat.

Thanks for your opinion, it actually make me think twice about this, another problem i was having is that in my country, although i have the resources to buy consoles, games are another matter, almost every new game that is released in USA or Europe, takes a long time to come here, like, two or three months after that game is released, I didn't feel like buying a new fresh game in years, because it takes long, and usually, they sell it more expensive than the normal price they should be selling, and when that product is in a store, everyone goes batshit about that game and it's simple impossible to buy them unless quite some time pass.

So, i must say that, even with all the games published every year, i feel that this generation is severely lacking as i said before, remember when they announced that Skyrim had apparently "Infinite" quests, and then, when the game is released, everyone was like "Wtf, where are my "Infinite" quests?, or the 200 endings in Fallout 3.

When you promise something, just complish with that, and don't make me talk about Destiny, that fuckin game with the highest budget of a videogame ever, and it was okay, 5.5/10, it's playable but it has some serious flaws, and it's forgettable, that's the problem of today games, they are forgettable, few games are memorable like the Bioshock games, or Red Dead Redemption, but even those are rare to find, and i'm not talking about rarity in units or value, i'm talking of them as games like those.

Well, although this generation will be more or less (probably less) impressive that the 7th generation, which was lacking in some things too, i hope to at least play some good games, though, i'll have to wait a lot to buy them, meanwhile, i'll play all the 7th generation games, because i didn't played too much 7th generation games, and there are a lot of games out there, i'm like Indiana Jones this time, i'll find the lost diamond, with a lot of Cod, minecraft and shit, there has to be gold and diamonds deep inside, and it's my mission to find something like that.

 

[Hungry Friend]

Demifiend: Our ideals are basically the same, and you're probably around the same age as I am as well(I'm 30, started gaming in 1989) so shit like DLC abuse replacing unlockable secrets and even cheats is very jarring and offensive to us, as it should be since this is our hobby. I'm not a fan of FPS games(generally speaking) either but I'm mostly just tired of games that are basically just big, slightly playable cutscenes with tutorial sections/hand holding that guide you through the entire game, and with open world games like Skyrim, like you said, companies use consoles' internet connections as an excuse to release broken ass games with zero polish. I like a balance between linear hand holding bullshit with no challenge and open world games with tons of unpolished, broken content.

MGS3 is a pretty good example of a balance, but I'm probably just mentioning it because I've been on an MGS3 kick for the last several weeks and it's a seriously awesome game. Plenty of cutscenes and shit but you can also explore large areas and fuck around a LOT as well, and the gameplay, while wonky at times by today's standards, is pretty damn good if you learn how to play the game, and it doesn't hold your hand too much especially on Hard.

EDIT: Lack of game genre diversity is certainly a big problem as well. I miss the loads of goofy, quirky ass Japanese games(especially mid-tier budget stuff) from the NES-PS2/GC/XB days.

EDIT2: Only reason I'm choosing the Wii U is because most of the games I like are Japanese, so the Wii U and 3DS appeal to me the most. The Wii U does have inferior HW and is failing though and on the flipside, the PS4 is doing very well. The Nintendo consoles simply fit my tastes better although I wish you could ditch the Wii U gamepad.

 

[RodrigoDavy]

The Wii U has great games to play right now.
The PS4 has a promise of great games in the future. It will be the one to receive most third-party support too.

Personally I would say the PS4 is the best choice. But if you're like me and can't accept missing a Zelda title, go with the Wii U

 

[JoostinOnline]

No matter what, you should wait for E3 before making your decision. You don't want to see a new announcement that makes you regret your decision.

Edit: CRAP! E3 already started and I'm missing it! I hate work.

 

[aofelix]

Wii U + wait for Ps4 to have games OR PC + wii U OR PS4 longterm


I own all three. My Ps4 is good for netflix tbh atm. 95% of games I'd rather play on my PC.

wii U gets the most playtime because its local multiplayer games are fun as hell BUT it will become obsolete in 2 years IMO as nintendo just aren't pushing enough content and miyamato said the next mario game will be on a new console.

If you don't want to invest in a PC, I would:


1. Buy Wii U
2. Enjoy lots of enjoyable games, local multiplayer fun with MK8 etc. + upcoming titles like xenoblade x + Zelda
3. Wait for Ps4 to have 10-15 exclusives
4. Buy PS4 at cut price with huge library.



If games like GTA V and far cry appeal to you and you don't have a PC and won't get one... just get a PS4 since those games are already on the console or coming to it in the forseeable future.

 

[Demifiend]

Demifiend: Our ideals are basically the same, and you're probably around the same age as I am as well(I'm 30, started gaming in 1989) so shit like DLC abuse replacing unlockable secrets and even cheats is very jarring and offensive to us, as it should be since this is our hobby. I'm not a fan of FPS games(generally speaking) either but I'm mostly just tired of games that are basically just big, slightly playable cutscenes with tutorial sections/hand holding that guide you through the entire game, and with open world games like Skyrim, like you said, companies use consoles' internet connections as an excuse to release broken ass games with zero polish. I like a balance between linear hand holding bullshit with no challenge and open world games with tons of unpolished, broken content.

MGS3 is a pretty good example of a balance, but I'm probably just mentioning it because I've been on an MGS3 kick for the last several weeks and it's a seriously awesome game. Plenty of cutscenes and shit but you can also explore large areas and fuck around a LOT as well, and the gameplay, while wonky at times by today's standards, is pretty damn good if you learn how to play the game, and it doesn't hold your hand too much especially on Hard.

EDIT: Lack of game genre diversity is certainly a big problem as well. I miss the loads of goofy, quirky ass Japanese games(especially mid-tier budget stuff) from the NES-PS2/GC/XB days.

Amusingly, I'm not from your age, i'm a little more young, i have 16 years, with a birthday in 4 months, the thing was that when i was little i used to have an old computer with a sega genesis emulator, back then, i didn't understand why it was called genesis, i though it was something from the bible or whatever (laugh), anyway, i used to play a lot of Sega Genesis games, including Sonic, Quackshot, Mortal Kombat, Castle of Illusion,etc.

In 2005, although the PS2 was released some years ago, instead of receiving a PS2, i got a PS1 from birthday, and i must say, it was awesome, it was completely different that the games i was used to play on my SG emulator, so, i was really impresed back then, in fact, i used Internet mainly to write codes, button patterns on a notebook, and then, use those codes into my PS1 games, one of the games that i remember mostly is Crash Bandicoot 1, an awesome kickass game, that with a code, you could unlock every single level on the game, including boss fights and action stages, i was really surprised back then, and it was really enjoyable, i did the same things with some other PS1 games aswell, like DBGT Final Bout, again, with another code you could unlock every character on the game, including Goku in SSJ4.

And, those are the consoles i played most, in handhelds i usually played with my GBA that sadly, i gave as a gift, and if you could believe it, i lost a Gameboy Advance Micro Famicom Edition, they are worth 200 to 250 dollars as today, and even a standalone GBA Micro are rare, but i was in First Grade when i lost sight of it, so, that was quite some time.

I received a Wii in december of 2008, it was awesome, i played that thing for hours, and hours and it's still functioning as today, i must say that, while the 7th generation had some serious downsides, the NDS and Wii were kickass, a shit-ton of games for the DS was impossible to overlook, and the Wii did far better than the Wii U, mainly because third party games were treated nicely, the hardware wasn't too complicated to program, and finally, because of good advertisement, and some solid launch titles.

I love the NES games, the SNES, GBA, XB, GC, and PS2, mostly, those are the kind of games i play the most because they are fun, and of course with my PS1. Easily, the best 5th generation console, because the games there were awesome, man, when technology evolves it makes thing harder than it should, back then, almost every japanese company could publish and develop the games they feel like creating, nowadays it's almost impossible, it's more of a dream to develop a good RPG for the PS4 or the Wii U, it doesn't have the same quantity of variety that it has with the SNES or the PS1.

 

[Foxi4]

@Hungry Friend, with all due respect, "liking Japanese games" is a bigger pro for the PS4 than for the Wii U - it's a Japanese system as well and it gets more love from Japanese developers. Not to look too far for examples, Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts are being developed for the PS4, not the Wii U. @RodrigoDavy, the PS4 has just as many if not more good games than the Wii U at this point, unless your definition of "good" means Nintendo's first-party titles.

 

[RodrigoDavy]

@RodrigoDavy, the PS4 has just as many if not more good games than the Wii U at this point, unless your definition of "good" means Nintendo's first-party titles.

I mean great games that are not already available for x360/ps3 and that have already been released. I am sure there are already great games for the PS4 at this point, but I was talking about those titles that are the true system sellers and I know by the end of the year the PS4 is gonna have many of them, but right now it seems to me people who bought a PS4 did it more because of the novelty of advanced technology than the library of games itself.