Hardware Offline on Xbox One

[HipsterPluto]

I wanted to buy an Xbox One, but I heard some rumours about playing offline:
- You can be offline for 24 hours, if longer you'll be banned
- You have to pay continuously for connecting to Wi-Fi / being online
- You can't play at all when you don't have internet connection
- There are many games where you have to go online, which require an xbox live account

Are these rumours true? So won't I be able to play games, without paying extra for it?

 

[migles]

most of that rumours are based on the rules microsoft tried to implement.
but the angry consumers (players) made such a noise, microsoft rolled back thoose rules, and the always online requirement is no longuer true...

you no longuer require to be always connected on the internet.
and the 24 hours part is also not true anymore.

however for paying for multiplayer, someone can tell you more about this, i know xbox got a live service, i dont know if they got a free version, or is paid....

 

[Foxi4]

most of that rumours are based on the rules microsoft tried to implement.

No, they're based on people's retarded interpretation of them. It's a shame that Microsoft got rid of their initial plans, some of them were actually interesting and beneficial to end-users. Oh well, what's in the past is in the past.

Anywho, as far as online goes, you can connect to Xbox Live as long as you have a subscription, there are no other limitations.

 

[migles]

No, they're based on people's retarded interpretation of them. It's a shame that Microsoft got rid of their initial plans, some of them were actually interesting and beneficial to end-users. Oh well, what's in the past is in the past.

Anywho, as far as online goes, you can connect to Xbox Live as long as you have a subscription, there are no other limitations.

i don't agree... i like to bring my xbox to my cousins house for a weekend or even a week who doesn't have internet, so i can play games because there is no internet...

 

[Foxi4]

i don't agree... i like to bring my xbox to my cousins house for a weekend or even a week who doesn't have internet, so i can play games because there is no internet...

I like to be able to install full games so that I don't have to juggle discs like it's 1990-late, I like to be able to share my content with other Xboxes whenever I feel like it and I don't mind being always online because I've been always online for years. The initial plan had some cons, but it had shitloads of pros too.

 

[Nathan Drake]

I like to be able to install full games so that I don't have to juggle discs like it's 1990-late, I like to be able to share my content with other Xboxes whenever I feel like it and I don't mind being always online because I've been always online for years. The initial plan had some cons, but it had shitloads of pros too.

I feel like you're kind of looking at it through rose colored glasses here. Sure, some of the ideas were okay and would have worked brilliantly on something that wasn't a home game console. The problem was that they were absolutely awful ideas for something that, whether you like it or not, relies largely on physical media. As well, some of it was just dumb. What benefit is there to having to be online once every 24 hours just to have the privilege of playing your console offline? What pro is there to losing the only benefit there is in buying physical copies of games by making games you no longer want no better than a coaster to place your drink on?

To be blunt, the ideas were at best half thought out. As they were, the ideas were far, far more bad than good for a dedicated home console system. I get that they were trying to bring the console experience a little more in line with the PC experience, but you can't expect a revolution in the home console experience over night all because a single company has decided it should be so.

 

[Foxi4]

I feel like you're kind of looking at it through rose colored glasses here. Sure, some of the ideas were okay and would have worked brilliantly on something that wasn't a home game console. The problem was that they were absolutely awful ideas for something that, whether you like it or not, relies largely on physical media. As well, some of it was just dumb. What benefit is there to having to be online once every 24 hours just to have the privilege of playing your console offline? What pro is there to losing the only benefit there is in buying physical copies of games by making games you no longer want no better than a coaster to place your drink on?

To be blunt, the ideas were at best half thought out. As they were, the ideas were far, far more bad than good for a dedicated home console system. I get that they were trying to bring the console experience a little more in line with the PC experience, but you can't expect a revolution in the home console experience over night all because a single company has decided it should be so.

I'm looking at it through glasses of a games collector and a pragmatic user. If I can avoid getting my console's laser fucked by installing games and not using the discs, I'll take that opportunity 10 out of 10 times - I already do by using loaders whenever I can. If I need to log online to verify content, that's okay - I already do to sync trophies. Y'know what would really make this system work? Allowing the console to skip the online check as long as the game disc is in the drive - bam! Don't want to be always online? Use the discs to verify. That simple solution would appease everyone and I'm pretty sure it popped up in one of the interviews, but no, we still have to use discs like cavemen. PC has moved away from them and it's time for consoles to do the same, Microsoft's solution was the first step towards that, but gamers are too fickle to accept change, even if it benefits them later down the line. The initial proposal had issues, but nothing that couldn't be fixed.

 

[laudern]

I agree with foxi4. I too was looking forward to being able to pick up an on sale cheap physical Disc and install it like a digital download.


But then again, I was always going to be buying a ps4, so I guess it was kind of irrelevant to me anyway. But Sony would have most likely followed.

 

[Foxi4]

I agree with foxi4. I too was looking forward to being able to pick up an on sale cheap physical Disc and install it like a digital download.


But then again, I was always going to be buying a ps4, so I guess it was kind of irrelevant to me anyway. But Sony would have most likely followed.

I don't see how your strategy would be beneficial to you - you can still get games cheaply regardless of whether they're installable or not and, according to the initial plan, you wouldn't be able to resell them anyways since your installed copy would deactivate after someone else uses the disc. It wasn't a loophole at any point and staying "off the grid" wouldn't work due to the 24 hour check. You'd still have to own the game, it would just be less of a pain in the ass. Then again, there's the option to share with 10 users, that was cool. All in the past now though.

 

[laudern]

I don't see how your strategy would be beneficial to you - you can still get games cheaply regardless of whether they're installable or not and, according to the initial plan, you wouldn't be able to resell them anyways since your installed copy would deactivate after someone else uses the disc. It wasn't a loophole at any point and staying "off the grid" wouldn't work due to the 24 hour check. You'd still have to own the game, it would just be less of a pain in the ass. Then again, there's the option to share with 10 users, that was cool. All in the past now though.

You don't see how my strategy would be beneficial for me?

Simple fact, digital downloads don't get reduced anywhere near as much as physical games here in Australia. Gta5 in Australia still sells for $100 on the psn. That is expensive.

Brand new physical copy goes for around $65-70 (without it being on sale). That is cheaper.

This is one example that is repeated over and over.

This is how my strategy would be beneficial.

 

[Foxi4]

You don't see how my strategy would be beneficial for me?

Simple fact, digital downloads don't get reduced anywhere near as much as physical games here in Australia. Gta5 in Australia still sells for $100 on the psn. That is expensive.

Brand new physical copy goes for around $65-70 (without it being on sale). That is cheaper.

This is one example that is repeated over and over.

This is how my strategy would be beneficial.

Well, I suppose, but that's sort of the same as getting used discs and playing them normally, unless you mean just the benefit of installs which applies all across the board, new and used games alike, in which case I totally get your point.

 

[laudern]

Well, I suppose, but that's sort of the same as getting used discs and playing them normally, unless you mean just the benefit of installs which applies all across the board, new and used games alike, in which case I totally get your point.

Well that was the only 'benefit' that I originally commented on.

All of the other "benefits" MS were toting I had no interest in or cared much for.

 

[laudern]

those games actually cost that much over there. jesus christ i'll still be using the dreamcast right now lol

and wait until 2020 to get the Ps4 and stuff im sure the games will be cheaper then.. Anyways 100 for GTA V is absurd

Well that's just it. Shops on average sell console games for around $70-80 (regular big name games). This includes all taxes.

But if you specifically want digital there is no competition. If you want digital, MS or Sony will be getting your purchase.

I do want digital, but I was smart enough to create a US psn account and purchase psn cards from Amazon. Not an ideal solution, but better than the alternative.

 

[Foxi4]

Well that was the only 'benefit' that I originally commented on.

All of the other "benefits" MS were toting I had no interest in or cared much for.

I thought you meant cheating the system since that was the primary concern regarding the whole 24 hour check. As for your other comment, I know what you mean, it is a pain. My suggestion is to be on the lookout for flash sales, they're amazing and worth the weight.

 

[HipsterPluto]

Thanks for all your answers!! It helped a lot

 

[Deleted User]

I like to be able to install full games so that I don't have to juggle discs like it's 1990-late, I like to be able to share my content with other Xboxes whenever I feel like it and I don't mind being always online because I've been always online for years. The initial plan had some cons, but it had shitloads of pros too.

Yea it sucks they didn't have the foresight to add an online marketplace where you can download digital games that can be played without a disc.

 

[Foxi4]

Yea it sucks they didn't have the foresight to add an online marketplace where you can download digital games that can be played without a disc.

You can't put a digital download on your shelf, Mrs.Smarty Pants - it's not exactly the same thing. Also, you're preaching to the choir here - I already buy most of my content digitally aside from the titles I collect and want to display on a shelf.