Hacking Wii U Hacking & Homebrew Discussion

[NWPlayer123]

The Wii U formatted drives are not encrypted by the common key.

Indeed they aren't, apparently. I didn't realize that there are dedicated storage decryption keys until MN1 corrected me. So, NAND/drive decryption is out the window for now, since each person wanting to do anything with the storage would need to run an IOSU exploit (since the kernel exploit only gives us PPC access meaning we still can't do anything on the Starbuck) on their system to dump the NAND and keys. Leaking keys does no good, it's up to the user. Oh well, back to work.

 

[Ray Lewis]

Too bad. I would love to have a backup of my game saves. If save game mods existed like the 360 had (has still?) then that would be interesting.

 

[salvatore]

hi
any news about wiiu hack? I do not follow the scene WiiU
Thanks

 

[fredajt]

hi
any news about wiiu hack? I do not follow the scene WiiU
Thanks

Nothing usefull at this point if your are not a developer.

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

I suspect a starbuck exploit will be developed shortly after the kernel exploit goes public. SOMEBODY will likely figute it out, but until that happens dont expect anything in regards to storage decryption etc.

A universal tool for decryption would be amazing <3. Still a long ways off from there. No IOSU exploit, no universal tool

 

[Marionumber1]

I suspect a starbuck exploit will be developed shortly after the kernel exploit goes public. SOMEBODY will likely figute it out, but until that happens dont expect anything in regards to storage decryption etc.

A universal tool for decryption would be amazing <3. Still a long ways off from there. No IOSU exploit, no universal tool

A Starbuck exploit doesn't depend on a kernel exploit, so why is it more likely to occur then than now?

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

A Starbuck exploit doesn't depend on a kernel exploit, so why is it more likely to occur then than now?

Because the kernel exploit could be used as leverage to get an IOSU exploit running. I imagine it would be more difficult to pull of from a userland exploit (really limited resources)

 

[Marionumber1]

Because the kernel exploit could be used as leverage to get an IOSU exploit running. I imagine it would be more difficult to pull of from a userland exploit (really limited resources)

Unless I'm mistaken, userspace can call the same IOSU functions that the kernel can.

 

[funnyguywiiu]

2015... still no hack.

never would've expected this.

 

[Marionumber1]

2015...still have real lives.

Never would have expected this.

 

[fatsquirrel]

Everytime you post I tremble in expectation that something will be released ><

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

2015... still no hack.

never would've expected this.

How ungrateful.... People are doing all this work for free, for the good of the community, not because they have to, but because they want to.

If you think you could do it quicker, then by all means, go for it......

*Crickets chirping*

 

[OriginalHamster]

Has anyone tried to "reverse engineer" WiiU formatted HD's beyond the "It doesn't mount under Windows/Linux" stage? Had friends WiiU under modding couple of weeks ago, but hadn't time to format removable disk under WiiU and check the contents myself.

I doubt Nintendo has written a new filesystem from scratch, but rather used an existing and proven one with obfuscated FS tag. One FS candidate I'd tested would definitely have been FreeBSD's GELI or gbde encrypted UFS. Of course if someone doesn't mind making an small - and even empty - image of WiiU disk, I'll could try checking what it says if mounting on BSD.

It could use Wii NAND file system for storage, Nintendo is known for sticking to a specific technology.

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

It could use Wii NAND file system for storage, Nintendo is known for sticking to a specific technology.

Maybe, but even so, all storage related keys are consolr specific. Each and every user would still need to obtain his/her own keys....

 

[funnyguywiiu]

How ungrateful.... People are doing all this work for free, for the good of the community, not because they have to, but because they want to.

If you think you could do it quicker, then by all means, go for it......

*Crickets chirping*

I'm not ungrateful, the people who are able to hack this machine are amazing and I would be very thankful to whoever gets the job done. I just did not expect it to take this long.

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

I'm not ungrateful, the people who are able to hack this machine are amazing and I would be very thankful to whoever gets the job done. I just did not expect it to take this long.

Ah okay, I misinterpreted your post then "Keep calm and carry on..."

 

[OreNPluS]

i am just thinking to myself, maybe, the key to hack that console, is again super smash bros
and why ?

super smash bros for 3ds has abillty to work with super smash bros for the wii u
and now we can run game's roms on the 3ds

and maybe, we need to try to hack and edit super smash bros for the 3ds, so that will send a code to the wii u that will get to run homebrew or something like that.

so, maybe ?

 

[NWPlayer123]

i am just thinking to myself, maybe, the key to hack that console, is again super smash bros
and why ?

super smash bros for 3ds has abillty to work with super smash bros for the wii u
and now we can run game's roms on the 3ds

and maybe, we need to try to hack and edit super smash bros for the 3ds, so that will send a code to the wii u that will get to run homebrew or something like that.

so, maybe ?

Most likely not. If they did it properly it only has the ability to access controls, and whatever the Wii U /decides/ to send it.

 

[keine]

Unless I'm mistaken, userspace can call the same IOSU functions that the kernel can.

This is something I didn't know. So someone targeting starbuck would have as much leverage from userland as from kernel space? Thats interesting.

Are the ARM's/Starbuck hardened against glitching attacks?

Say I write a dummy homebrew app for the main ARM when that is doable, would it be possible to glitch it? I don't know anything about glitching, just the recent chaos talk on it I found interesting.

 

[OreNPluS]

Most likely not. If they did it properly it only has the ability to access controls, and whatever the Wii U /decides/ to send it.

do you sure that not worth a try ?