PS3 or xbox 360

[WiiCube_2013]

I'd recommend to get PlayStation 3 because its exclusives are far superior than what Xbox 360 offers.

The list would be too big but just look up the games on Amazon and then see which suits you better.

Btw, try to buy them new, I did purchase a PS3 60GB but I had a talk with the seller, he showed me the change he did and offered a warranty and to this day it works flawlessly so it was definitely a great buy. That's also because I wanted to play PS2 games in HD without using a PC.

 

[KielMaruVasquez]

Honestly it's not that worth it. PS2 games are cool and all but you can get a new PS3 and a PS2 separately for like less than a launch PS3. Plus the PS3 already has a couple HD Collections which are quite worth it and a bunch of stuff on the PSN.

Yeah im not really planning on playing ps2 games on it. I mean, i loved my ps2 when i was a kid..

About the exclusives, someone said theyre about the same size. But this one game unfortunately is a ps3 exclusive which made me sad.

Right now im deciding based on what my sister likes which is the xbox with the kinect.

 

[trumpet-205]

That's also because I wanted to play PS2 games in HD without using a PC.

You'll be disappointed then. PS3 does not magically make graphics better when dealing with PS2 games. It is still rendered at 480i then stretched to 720p.

I don't recommend PS3 for PS2 game at all, since it suffers noticeable lags. Unless you use composite cable and disable widescreen + smoothing filter that is.

Only PCSX2 can force uprendering, and only uprendering can improve graphics.

 

[DinohScene]

Wait so not all external HDDs are supported by 360s? 32gb HDD is the only choice?

Yeah we have "fake" cds here. They sell it around here. All my ps2 discs are all fake and my ps2 wasnt even modded i think. They sell fake 360/ps3 games here so i guess the answer is yes, you could play them if you hack it right?




Ok that looks like a lot of work. I have a little experience in modding since i softmodded my wii. But with all those tools, i'll probably just ask someone to do it for me. Since you say both the consoles need a hardware modification and seems like its very hard to jailbreak it, there isnt really a winner between the two here. So.. right now im going for xbox 360 with the kinect.

External HDD's/USB drives are only supported for the storage of save games/themes/DLC/XBLA etc.
They won't allow you to play original Xbox games nor install 360 games to them.
To install games to the harddisk, you'll need an Internal one, which can be a hacked WD Scorpio Blue (3rd party) one or an official MS harddisk.
And please chap, call them backups, I'm having a hard time remaining serious when you keep calling backups "fake cd's" xd

Well if you install an Xkey (which is doable by yourself) then the only thing you'll need to do is pay someone to extract your key.
Installation is simple as I said before.
Then it's a matter of getting backups on an external and hooking it up.

 

[KielMaruVasquez]

External HDD's/USB drives are only supported for the storage of save games/themes/DLC/XBLA etc.
They won't allow you to play original Xbox games nor install 360 games to them.
To install games to the harddisk, you'll need an Internal one, which can be a hacked WD Scorpio Blue (3rd party) one or an official MS harddisk.
And please chap, call them backups, I'm having a hard time remaining serious when you keep calling backups "fake cd's" xd

Well if you install an Xkey (which is doable by yourself) then the only thing you'll need to do is pay someone to extract your key.
Installation is simple as I said before.
Then it's a matter of getting backups on an external and hooking it up.

Then whats with the ads i see asaying they have external hdd full of games? Like this: http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/v...ords=xbox&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-1,1

 

[DinohScene]

That's probably a RGH'd console or a Xkey'd console.
Otherwise I can't imagine why else they would sell it.

 

[ilman]

Then whats with the ads i see asaying they have external hdd full of games? Like this: http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view classifieds/id/34566848/xbox 360 slim 4gb kinect with 500gb ext hdd jtag rgh?referralKeywords=xbox&event=Search Ranking,Position,1-1,1

That 360 has a RGH, which basically allows you to get backups/legit installs/XBLA/homebrew games on an external HDD, but it bans you from Live, so there's that.

Edit: Dammit, ninja'd.

 

[KielMaruVasquez]

That's probably a RGH'd console or a Xkey'd console.
Otherwise I can't imagine why else they would sell it.

So.. is that.. a bad thing??
I really dont wanna buy 2nd hand but theyre already modded unlike a brand new one.

That 360 has a RGH, which basically allows you to get backups/legit installs/XBLA/homebrew games on an external HDD, but it bans you from Live, so there's that.

Edit: Dammit, ninja'd.

So thats the only down side? Im not planning to use xbox live anyway.

 

[ilman]

So thats the only down side? Im not planning to use xbox live anyway.

Well, pretty much nothing.
I'm a bit outdated on RGH-ing, but as far as I remember all 360-s were supported and, except Live, there is no drawback to it.
It's just that it's harder to install.

 

[DinohScene]

So.. is that.. a bad thing??
I really dont wanna buy 2nd hand but theyre already modded unlike a brand new one.



So thats the only down side? Im not planning to use xbox live anyway.

No, RGH'd consoles only offer far greater things.
Like ilman said.
Their basically a softmodded Wii.
Launching games from the internal drive (which you can install yourself without any problems)
Xbox 1/XBLA/XBLIndie/Homebrew/Emulators etc.

I'd say go for the RGH 360.
Only downside is no Multiplayer (only a select few games can go on a online service called LiNK)

 

[WiiCube_2013]

You'll be disappointed then. PS3 does not magically make graphics better when dealing with PS2 games. It is still rendered at 480i then stretched to 720p.

I don't recommend PS3 for PS2 game at all, since it suffers noticeable lags. Unless you use composite cable and disable widescreen + smoothing filter that is.

Only PCSX2 can force uprendering, and only uprendering can improve graphics.

The graphical difference between a PS2 SD and PS3 60GB is enormous, for example Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3, Gran Turismo 4, Zone of Enders and etc all had a great improvement and their details are visible, plus on an HDTV it definitely looks a lot better and sharpened.

I'm a console gamer so it's where I game on. PC's only serve for work and media for me.

 

[trumpet-205]

tl.

Couple factors in play.

On regular PS2, it outputs 480i by default. This means it is up to TV to do deinterlacing and stretching. How well it handles this is up to TV. It varies depending on which TV we are talking about.

On PS3, it is done internally and outputs in 720p. Smoothing filter used by PS3 is decent, but lags on user input. A big problem on games relying on precise timing. If you use HDMI, it outputs digital signal which does not suffer fidelity loss (but if you use quality component cable not cheap ebay one on PS2 it ain't an issue).

Overall, you are seeing a differing in PS2 and PS3 in graphics because your TV does a poorer job on 480i than PS3. If you want high quality graphics on PS2 on TV you would do PS2 + XRGB-Mini. Nothing beats this upscaler when it comes to 480i, of course it costs $350 upward.

Only downside is no Multiplayer (only a select few games can go on a online service called LiNK)

What X360 model would you recommend on Xkey? It needs to have HDMI and be reliable.

 

[Dork]

Honestly it's not that worth it. PS2 games are cool and all but you can get a new PS3 and a PS2 separately for like less than a launch PS3. Plus the PS3 already has a couple HD Collections which are quite worth it and a bunch of stuff on the PSN.

It's nice to have compatibility with physical PS2 games, and I personally love the card readers. Also, I got my refurbished 60GB PS3 from Gamestop for 199.99$, and it runs flawlessly. I actually got very lucky because the console was installed with a 500GB hard drive.

 

[KielMaruVasquez]

Well, pretty much nothing.
I'm a bit outdated on RGH-ing, but as far as I remember all 360-s were supported and, except Live, there is no drawback to it.
It's just that it's harder to install.

Well its already modified

No, RGH'd consoles only offer far greater things.
Like ilman said.
Their basically a softmodded Wii.
Launching games from the internal drive (which you can install yourself without any problems)
Xbox 1/XBLA/XBLIndie/Homebrew/Emulators etc.

I'd say go for the RGH 360.
Only downside is no Multiplayer (only a select few games can go on a online service called LiNK)

Oh what about the JTAG? Its pretty common. I see it all in the ads. Is that also a good thing?

 

[DinohScene]

JTAG was the old hack.
Their basically the same.
They just allow you to execute hacked code ;]

 

[KielMaruVasquez]

JTAG was the old hack.
Their basically the same.
They just allow you to execute hacked code ;]

Thanks!

Ok so im going with the xbox and gonna buy it 2nd hand (cause i want it modified already)
How do I know if its legit or not? Like if its still ok? Someone said here before to not get any old models Like Arcade and Elite. That i should only get the Slim model. Is that right?

 

[DinohScene]

Only Xenons and Zephyrs (2005-2007) consoles are RROD machines.
Just kick the fans in higher and you're good to go ;]

Also, install FSD with this tutorial, it'll enhance the game loading enormously ;]

 

[KielMaruVasquez]

Only Xenons and Zephyrs (2005-2007) consoles are RROD machines.
Just kick the fans in higher and you're good to go ;]

Also, install FSD with this tutorial, it'll enhance the game loading enormously ;]

So I shouldnt get the 2005-2007 models then? Are they the Elite models?

 

[DinohScene]

Even Elites where produced in 2007.
Look at the back of the 360, anything above 2008 is good.

 

[KielMaruVasquez]

Even Elites where produced in 2007.
Look at the back of the 360, anything above 2008 is good.

Ok one last question, im just making sure i dont have any issues on buying a used console. i read that theres a possibility that a modded xbox will not play newer games or not all games. (since i read this feedback on this seller that he got ripped off cause he cant play some games on the console), how do i make sure that i dont get that problem?