PS3 or xbox 360

[Foxi4]

In case i buy something form ebay, can you easily tell if its an old hag?
Accessory-wise, im leaning towards the ps3 cause i have an old ps2 here and they say i can use the old controller.

If it's a PS3 Phat, don't buy it unless you're dedicated to modifying the f*** out of its cooling because chances are that it died on someone at least once. I strongly suggest buying a PS3 Slim.

The same rule applies to the XBox 360 - don't buy the old models such as Core, Arcade, Elite etc. - try to find a pre-modded Slim and you should be covered, but I won't say much in this regard as I'm really not a specialist as far as the XBox 360 is concerned. I'll hail in more "learned" members for you though.

DinohScene
Devin

Once those two recieve the notifications, they should post something worth-while for you to read - I just gave you a quick overview.

 

[Arras]

Yup. Like I said before, phats WILL most likely die eventually.

 

[Foxi4]

Something I forgot to mention earlier, but I don't want the OP to miss it. You will not be able to use any PS2 accessories on the PS3, so don't let that sway you either way. PS2 compatibility has been cut and replaced with PS2 Classics which work along the same principle as Nintendo's Virtual Console - there are no controller ports or memory card ports on contemporary PS3's. You are required to use a PS3-compatible controller.

 

[DinohScene]

Phat 360's (Core Arcade Pro Elite) are the easiest to flash and place an ODDE in (xkey)
Slims (made in 20110) are easy to place an ODDE in.

However if you get a Phatty, then look at he MFR date on the back.
Anything below 2008 is a no-no.
2005/2006/2007 are RRoD machines.
2008/2009 can RRoD but if you keep them ventilated, they will last a long long time.

As for hacking.
if you want the least amount of trouble, go with an Xkey.
It requires a external HDD for you to place your games on.
Be sure to patch everything with ABGX.
This allow you to play on XBLive and allows the newer games to be booted.

 

[UltraMew]

Look son, the thread is called "PS3 or XBox 360?", the OP "can't decide between the two" Wii U is fine, just making suggestions, he wants a system which will play downloadable (aka "pirated") games and will not cost him a pretty penny and you waltz in here suggesting a system which not only isn't (officially) hacked yet and hasn't got the capability to play backups vWii but also isn't either of the two ones the OP is thinking about again, suggestions. There's no hate involved Bull., I'm just answering the actual question that was asked as vividly and descriptively as possible wheras you perform your fanboy shlock shlock? WTF? and drop in a console that has nothing to do with the subject matter.

Nope. Besides, it started as a joke, now it's gotten off-hand.

 

[Foxi4]

Nope. Besides, it started as a joke, now it's gotten off-hand.

Okay man, whatever you say. Like I said, I'm no fanboy - he wanted a comparison between the PS3 and the 360 and I gave him the best one I could write, end of.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I owned a Xbox 360 and then later bought a PS3. I still own both though.

Generally I'd say the PS3 is better but either one is pretty good. Xbox 360 has better multiplats, PS3 has better optimized (ie looking) exclusives. Game preference is up to you.

Still I'd say PS3 because it's around the same value, has free online, PS+ is pretty awesome, and it's also a Bluray player. Really though new PS3s are pretty cheap and used Xbox 360s can be dirt cheap. I'd say buy both when you can so you can get all the games on the best consoles.

 

[trumpet-205]

How did a X360 vs PS3 thread turn into a Wii U debate?

Anyway I nominate PS3, simply because it has more exclusive than X360, and matured plus unified online infrastructure with PSP and PS Vita. Being a 3D Bluray player is also a plus.

In terms of hacking PS3 has ODE and CFW. I wouldn't call ODE to be 100% safe on PS3. Most ODE for PS3 operates under no drive key mode, which requires an exploitable game disc inside PS3 Bluray drive in order to function (crashing exploitable game to load games from ODE). Only 3k3y offers another mode using drive key, where it 100% emulates Bluray drive, simply feed game data without the need of exploitable game disc.

But drive key (EID4 + EID0) can only be dumped on CFW 3.55 or CFW 4.50 (tricky on 4.50), and you can't install CFW on Super Slim PS3.

 

[KielMaruVasquez]

Ive decided i might go with xbox 360. Since ps2 accessories wont work in ps3.
Kinda worried about the capacity of it though. There are only 2 options. The 4gb one and the other 250gb.
I wanna get the 4gb + kinect one cause its cheap but only 4gb?? I could just get any external hdd for it right?

One last question, I wanna be able to play fake cd games on it. Like my Wii before. Whats better and safer to do that to? Also, im probably not gonna modify this myself im just gonna pay for services around here.

 

[Gahars]

Nope. Besides, it started as a joke, now it's gotten off-hand.

And who's fault is that? :handsonhipswithscowloffrustratedhousewife:

Guild and Foxi have made good points about each console, so I'd recommend you take what they said to heart, though I will add one thing - the Xbox 360 has an amazing controller. Like, seriously, the thing is better than sex on the beach, and almost as good as the drink. The PS3's controller, on the other hand is... well, it's okay, I guess, but it feels like it was designed solely for the Babyhands McGees of the world.

If controllers are a factor, there you go.

 

[KielMaruVasquez]

And who's fault is that? :handsonhipswithscowloffrustratedhousewife:

Guild and Foxi have made good points about each console, so I'd recommend you take what they said to heart, though I will add one thing - the Xbox 360 has an amazing controller. Like, seriously, the thing is better than sex on the beach, and almost as good as the drink. The PS3's controller, on the other hand is... well, it's okay, I guess, but it feels like it was designed solely for the Babyhands McGees of the world.

If controllers are a factor, there you go.

Well controllers aint really a factor but like just in case i wanna buy an extra controller.
Im actually reading right now on guides how to hack the 2 consoles.. ive read that new ps3 slims now are hard to hack http://redkinoko.blogspot.com/2011/01/ps3-jailbreak-philippinesgreenhills.html

http://gbatemp.net/threads/guide-how-to-hack-your-360.334203/
"There is no real softmod and there will much likely never be one for the 360, so you're out of luck for that."
Well thats a red flag. It requires a lot of hardware mod which i cant do myself.

If ever i do the hackng myself, whats easier to hack?

wait i think i already asked this question.. Sorry im just really confused between the two.

 

[calmwaters]

I thought this thread was gonna be real stupid, but it is sort of okay, thanks to Foxi (thank you Guild for your one post) I would've gone with the PS3 since the PS2 library has one of the largest game libraries of any system. But the 360 is easier to modify, so whatever goes your way.

 

[DinohScene]

Ive decided i might go with xbox 360. Since ps2 accessories wont work in ps3.
Kinda worried about the capacity of it though. There are only 2 options. The 4gb one and the other 250gb.
I wanna get the 4gb + kinect one cause its cheap but only 4gb?? I could just get any external hdd for it right?

One last question, I wanna be able to play fake cd games on it. Like my Wii before. Whats better and safer to do that to? Also, im probably not gonna modify this myself im just gonna pay for services around here.

No unfortunately not, you can hack a 320 GB WD Scorpio Blue drive as storage for your 360.
Otherwise you'll be stuck with a 32GB limit.

Excuse me for the laughs, but "fake cd games"?
That's the first I heard xd

If you mean backupped games, go for an Xkey (it's far easier then to correctly burn your backups with a hacked DVD burner/DVD burner compatible with a payload tool)
It's also more convenient as you can store games on an external drive and can connect it to the Xkey.
The same rules still apply for patching tho.
Patch every backup with ABGX.

Well controllers aint really a factor but like just in case i wanna buy an extra controller.
Im actually reading right now on guides how to hack the 2 consoles.. ive read that new ps3 slims now are hard to hack http://redkinoko.blogspot.com/2011/01/ps3-jailbreak-philippinesgreenhills.html

http://gbatemp.net/threads/guide-how-to-hack-your-360.334203/
"There is no real softmod and there will much likely never be one for the 360, so you're out of luck for that."
Well thats a red flag. It requires a lot of hardware mod which i cant do myself.

If ever i do the hackng myself, whats easier to hack?

wait i think i already asked this question.. Sorry im just really confused between the two.

Both 360 and PS3 requires hardware to fully hack it.
The 360 is easier with the Xkey as you only need to dump your DVD keys (which is possible with the correct SATA chipset or just pay someone to extract them for you) from a 2005 360 to a 2011 360.
The newer matte black Slims are harder to dump the DVD keys from.

Xkey installation it self is just a matter of opening your eyes and reading a small tutorial properly.
I've tried to make it as noob friendly as I could, only thing you need to do is follow the instructions and do it yourself ;p

 

[trumpet-205]

I would've gone with the PS3 since the PS2 library has one of the largest game libraries of any system. But the 360 is easier to modify, so whatever goes your way.

Don't buy PS3 if you want to play PS2 games. PS2 game are best played on PS2.

 

[calmwaters]

Don't buy PS3 if you want to play PS2 games. PS2 game are best played on PS2.

I know: but he wasn't giving an option for that one, just the 3.

 

[cdoty]

Cant decide between the two since i have no knowledge about consoles.

A little about my situation. I've owned a XBox 360 since Dec. 2007, and picked up a PS3 in August. I also have a PSP and PS Vita.

My preference is the PS3 due to the PSN. They typically have a decent collection of free games available each month. They also offer better discounts during the sales.

It also seems like the PS3 has a better collection of indie/smaller games.

The biggest complaints I have with the PS3 are:

The R2/L2 buttons don't feel right, compared to the 360 controller. Although, I've gotten used to the since purchasing NHL 14 (At a 75% discount during the holidays).

Downloading a game, waiting for it to install, and possibly downloading a patch kinda sucks. This can easily add 10 to 15 minutes to an install, for a larger game. The 360 downloads the game, and then takes less than a minute to start playing.

These are pretty minor, and are outweighed by the advantages of the PSN.

 

[Sicklyboy]

No unfortunately not, you can hack a 320 GB WD Scorpio Blue drive as storage for your 360.
Otherwise you'll be stuck with a 32GB limit.

Excuse me for the laughs, but "fake cd games"?
That's the first I heard xd

If you mean backupped games, go for an Xkey (it's far easier then to correctly burn your backups with a hacked DVD burner/DVD burner compatible with a payload tool)
It's also more convenient as you can store games on an external drive and can connect it to the Xkey.
The same rules still apply for patching tho.
Patch every backup with ABGX.[...]

To further this point towards something like the XK3y, you need to buy an ODDE and a flash drive(s) or an external hard drive. To flash your drive to read burned disks, you need either a compatible SATA chipset or one of the VIA ones or an X360USB Pro v2, possibly a probe or PMT tool, a BurnerMAX compatible DVD burner, and blank disks. The proper disks are literally $1 a piece not including shipping, which may not sound like a lot, but when you're buying 50 at a time and you get a bunch of bad burns because you're figuring out the optimal settings for your drive, not to mention the fact that it takes forever to burn the disk and THEN verify that it burned properly, you'd be so much better off with an ODDE at that point. Once I run out of my DL-DVDs (that's if I can find another burner since my last one... burnt out (I wish I was fucking joking)) I'm getting an ODDE.

 

[KielMaruVasquez]

No unfortunately not, you can hack a 320 GB WD Scorpio Blue drive as storage for your 360.
Otherwise you'll be stuck with a 32GB limit.

Excuse me for the laughs, but "fake cd games"?
That's the first I heard xd

If you mean backupped games, go for an Xkey (it's far easier then to correctly burn your backups with a hacked DVD burner/DVD burner compatible with a payload tool)
It's also more convenient as you can store games on an external drive and can connect it to the Xkey.
The same rules still apply for patching tho.
Patch every backup with ABGX.




Both 360 and PS3 requires hardware to fully hack it.
The 360 is easier with the Xkey as you only need to dump your DVD keys (which is possible with the correct SATA chipset or just pay someone to extract them for you) from a 2005 360 to a 2011 360.
The newer matte black Slims are harder to dump the DVD keys from.

Xkey installation it self is just a matter of opening your eyes and reading a small tutorial properly.
I've tried to make it as noob friendly as I could, only thing you need to do is follow the instructions and do it yourself ;p

Wait so not all external HDDs are supported by 360s? 32gb HDD is the only choice?

Yeah we have "fake" cds here. They sell it around here. All my ps2 discs are all fake and my ps2 wasnt even modded i think. They sell fake 360/ps3 games here so i guess the answer is yes, you could play them if you hack it right?

To further this point towards something like the XK3y, you need to buy an ODDE and a flash drive(s) or an external hard drive. To flash your drive to read burned disks, you need either a compatible SATA chipset or one of the VIA ones or an X360USB Pro v2, possibly a probe or PMT tool, a BurnerMAX compatible DVD burner, and blank disks. The proper disks are literally $1 a piece not including shipping, which may not sound like a lot, but when you're buying 50 at a time and you get a bunch of bad burns because you're figuring out the optimal settings for your drive, not to mention the fact that it takes forever to burn the disk and THEN verify that it burned properly, you'd be so much better off with an ODDE at that point. Once I run out of my DL-DVDs (that's if I can find another burner since my last one... burnt out (I wish I was fucking joking)) I'm getting an ODDE.

Ok that looks like a lot of work. I have a little experience in modding since i softmodded my wii. But with all those tools, i'll probably just ask someone to do it for me. Since you say both the consoles need a hardware modification and seems like its very hard to jailbreak it, there isnt really a winner between the two here. So.. right now im going for xbox 360 with the kinect.

 

[Dork]

Get a Polystation 3, and I would recommend trying to get one of the early launch model Phat ones for the PS2 compatibility and the memory card readers.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Get a Polystation 3, and get I would recommend trying to get one of the early launch model Phat ones for the PS2 compatibility and the memory card readers.

Honestly it's not that worth it. PS2 games are cool and all but you can get a new PS3 and a PS2 separately for like less than a launch PS3. Plus the PS3 already has a couple HD Collections which are quite worth it and a bunch of stuff on the PSN.