Things continue to look bad for Capcom.

[DSGamer64]

If Mega Man made them money, they'd have kept making it. It's hard to believe, I know, but companies are motivated by profit, not the need to spite fanboys.

Except that some of the games they have made in the franchise were good. Most of the PSP and DS games were awesome, the worst ones were the Star Force games. The older Battle Network games, Megaman ZX and ZX Advent were great titles and franchises. Also WTB new Battle Chip Challenge game.

 

[Gahars]

Except that some of the games they have made in the franchise were good. Most of the PSP and DS games were awesome, the worst ones were the Star Force games. The older Battle Network games, Megaman ZX and ZX Advent were great titles and franchises. Also WTB new Battle Chip Challenge game.

I never said that the games weren't good, but companies focus on their bottom line first and foremost; if the games don't turn enough of a profit, they're not going to spend money making more, end of story.

Game quality and game sales are two entirely separate things.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I never said that the games weren't good, but companies focus on their bottom line first and foremost; if the games don't turn enough of a profit, they're not going to spend money making more, end of story.

Game quality and game sales are two entirely separate things.

Well it depends. The newer mega man games weren't making them money, but it's been so long since they made a traditional mega man game. But then they just got carried away with the battle network crap.

 

[Gahars]

Well it depends. The newer mega man games weren't making them money, but it's been so long since they made a traditional mega man game. But then they just got carried away with the battle network crap.

Mega Man Powered Up sold like ass. Mega Man 9 and 10 sold relatively well, but they only served a small niche. People claim that Mega Man Legends 3 would have been a hit, but even the originals performed pretty poorly (this is according to Mr. Inafune himself). The market has more than spoken.

I mean, I get wanting another title in a dormant franchise. I'd kill for another Timesplitters, but I'm not going to delude myself into thinking that such a thinking would set the market on fire or save a company.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I just don't believe that Nintendo would do this. The best game Silicon Knights made was when they were under Nintendo's supervision which was Eternal Darkness. Outside of this, they are the textbook definition of a mediocre developer. Also remember that we got the best resident evil games when they were exclusive to Nintendo (Resident Evil 1 remake, Resident Evil 4).

...Which was two generations ago. And never got a sequel. The only mature (read: M-rated) game Nintendo has even bothered with was Zengeki no Reginleiv which A) sucked, B) never got localized, and C) bombed anyway.

EDIT: Also saying "the best Silicon Knights game" is hardly a trophy worth displaying. When your competition is like fucking Too Human then it's kinda not a competition.

I'm not saying Megaman makes tons and tons of money, but it makes them some money. And when they start 4 projects and cancel all of them, they're digging their own grave.

But it wouldn't make enough money to save the company so it's better to invest that money into a project that can save the company.

For the record, I don't think Megaman games are bad but I'm not gonna say it'll save the company but it won't. I'm not saying "GOOD FOR CAPCOM FOR KILLING A BAD FRANCHISE!" I'm saying they're making the smart business move by not dumping shit into it. And they still made Megaman 9 and Megaman 10 and a really good Megaman 1 and Megaman X remake so let's not cry about the franchise because of your spinoff game getting canned.

Also

>best Resident Evil games were on Nintendo systems.
>counting Resident Evil 1 because it's remake was on a Nintendo system.
>counting Resident Evil 4 despite the superior HD port is on Xbox 360 and PS3 and not a Nintendo console

hypocrisy general

 

[ShadowSoldier]

...Which was two generations ago. And never got a sequel. The only mature (read: M-rated) game Nintendo has even bothered with was Zengeki no Reginleiv which A) sucked, B) never got localized, and C) bombed anyway.

EDIT: Also saying "the best Silicon Knights game" is hardly a trophy worth displaying. When your competition is like fucking Too Human then it's kinda not a competition.



But it wouldn't make enough money to save the company so it's better to invest that money into a project that can save the company.

For the record, I don't think Megaman games are bad but I'm not gonna say it'll save the company but it won't. I'm not saying "GOOD FOR CAPCOM FOR KILLING A BAD FRANCHISE!" I'm saying they're making the smart business move by not dumping shit into it. And they still made Megaman 9 and Megaman 10 and a really good Megaman 1 and Megaman X remake so let's not cry about the franchise because of your spinoff game getting canned.

Also

>best Resident Evil games were on Nintendo systems.
>counting Resident Evil 1 because it's remake was on a Nintendo system.
>counting Resident Evil 4 despite the superior HD port is on Xbox 360 and PS3 and not a Nintendo console

hypocrisy general

Iono, it's kind of hard to support Capcom when, even though they didn't make any mega man games, they still didn't create anything that made them money.

 

[WoJjTeK]

>counting Resident Evil 4 despite the superior HD port is on Xbox 360 and PS3 and not a Nintendo console

So if I said "Devil May Cry 3 is the best action game and it was for PS2" you'd respond "There's superior HD port on PS3 and x360 so fuck that game is not best anymore"? It's still the same game , just a bit improved, but we got it on PS2 and that is what counts... right? It's not like these HD ports were available when the game launched... Or did I miss your point?

//Ok after reading your post 5th time I think I understand what you mean. But the fact that RE4 is considered one of the best in the series and it originated on Nintendo console stands Sorry for misunderstanding.

 

[skarthebloodchild]

They made crap games lately. No megaman no real resident evils except from the 3ds one.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Iono, it's kind of hard to support Capcom when, even though they didn't make any mega man games, they still didn't create anything that made them money.

Well that's the issue. And Megaman won't make them enough money. They're perfectly fine to blame, this is because of their blunders. Say Resident Evil 6 was shit and it hurt the company a lot, you'd be right. Say DmC was shit and hurt the company a lot, you'd be right. Saying "they didn't do Megaman they're dying because of it!" and you'd be factually incorrect.

I'm not defending Capcom's business decisions as a whole, I'm defending their reasoning for not continuing Megaman.

So if I said "Devil May Cry 3 is the best action game and it was for PS2" you'd respond "There's superior HD port on PS3 and x360 so fuck that game is not best anymore"? It's still the same game , just a bit improved, but we got it on PS2 and that is what counts... right? It's not like these HD ports were available when the game launched... Or did I miss your point?

//Ok after reading your post 5th time I think I understand what you mean. But the fact that RE4 is considered one of the best in the series and it originated on Nintendo console stands Sorry for misunderstanding.

I more so meant that there's a PS2 port of RE4 and he's counting it as a "Nintendo exclusive" aka if I said "but the PS2 got RE4" he'd go "BUT MUH GRAPHICS PS2 VERSION DOESN'T EVEN COUNT." Then he goes on to consider RE1 a "Nintendo exclusive" because it's remake was on the Gamecube despite the original being on the PSX.

If you want to keep RE4 as a "Nintendo title" because it originated from a Nintendo console you can't also keep RE1.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Well that's the issue. And Megaman won't make them enough money. They're perfectly fine to blame, this is because of their blunders. Say Resident Evil 6 was shit and it hurt the company a lot, you'd be right. Say DmC was shit and hurt the company a lot, you'd be right. Saying "they didn't do Megaman they're dying because of it!" and you'd be factually incorrect.

I'm not defending Capcom's business decisions as a whole, I'm defending their reasoning for not continuing Megaman.

I'm not saying Mega Man is the sole reason. There's numerous. There's RE6, DmC, starting all those mega man projects and canceling them, all the Street Fighter games, and all the countless other fuck ups.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I'm not saying Mega Man is the sole reason. There's numerous. There's RE6, DmC, starting all those mega man projects and canceling them, all the Street Fighter games, and all the countless other fuck ups.

Then what are we arguing?

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Then what are we arguing?

We were arguing?

 

[Thanatos Telos]

Well it depends. The newer mega man games weren't making them money, but it's been so long since they made a traditional mega man game. But then they just got carried away with the star force crap.

FTFY
OT:
BURN CAPCOM, BURN!

 

[Bryon15]

Megaman star force was great.

 

[trumpet-205]

Battle Network and Star Force are fine if they are independent series from Megaman.

Resident Evil went down in the drain starting with 5.

 

[Master X]

They tried a remake of the X series as well, on the psp.

It didn't sell a lot. Be nice if they decided to remake 2 and 3 for the 3DS, but I doubt that they will.

 

[Lestworth]

Maybe im a bit biased, but i would love to see Nintendo buy out Capcom, and keep them as a first party publisher. I say im biased cuz i still want a DECENT SEQUEL TO MY BELOVED CONKERS BAD FUR DAY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gahars]

Maybe im a bit biased, but i would love to see Nintendo buy out Capcom, and keep them as a first party publisher. I say im biased cuz i still want a DECENT SEQUEL TO MY BELOVED CONKERS BAD FUR DAY!!!!!!!!!!

CONKERS BAD FUR DAY

Developer - Rare
Publisher - Rare/THQ

Maybe im a bit biased, but i would love to see Nintendo buy out Capcom, and keep them as a first party publisher. I say im biased cuz i still want a DECENT SEQUEL TO MY BELOVED CONKERS BAD FUR DAY!!!!!!!!!!

Hmm.

Spoiler

 

[Bryon15]

They tried a remake of the X series as well, on the psp.

It didn't sell a lot. Be nice if they decided to remake 2 and 3 for the 3DS, but I doubt that they will.

This is because they were on psp, while megaman's fanbase was on nintendo. Think about it. The gba got 16 megaman games and the DS got 11. While the psp got 2. No wonder it didn't sell. The fanbase wasn't there.

 

[Master X]

They had to go with the psp though since UMD's had more capacity then a DS cart.

Although now the inverse is true - The 3ds card has twice the capacity of the vita cart.

Most of the GBA games though were offshoots. They weren't connected to the main series.

Still though, WTF Capcom? You release a Double Team DS but no Duel Beast DS? And then a comp for the Zero series, but no BN comp? And then you take a big shit over the BN series with the BN1 remake? Seriously - The fuck?