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Reluctant to purchase Pokemon X/Y because of this... My 3DS is on 4.4

lol for real? a picture with a name makes you not wanan buy x&y?....if anything if this is real THEN i would not wanna buy x&y because the game will go to shit with hacked pokemon and all that around
 

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Yeah, hackers should release everything they have and let Nintendo patch the exploits.

:rolleyes:

exploit is already patched since there is no way to hack into any firmware past 4.5

so even if nintendo gets their hands on a 4.5 CFW, there is no way to patch it on 3DS's running 4.5 and refuse to update to 6.XX
 

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ok, i think it's clarification time again... wanted to wait until i had some cooler stuff to show but i don't want things to get too out of hand in the meantime.
so, where to start ? first off, yes, this is by all means a custom firmware we've got running. what does that mean ? essentially, that we can have our own code running concurrently anywhere, at any time. more practically, it means we should be able to add new features to the stock firmware, not only adding some sort of nice homebrew loader to the home menu (maybe), but also for instance taking screenshots, cheats (yeah we can also run code in games apparently), removing region locking and such.
now, what does this *not* mean ? well, mostly it's just not as nice a CFW as are available on say the PSP, the PS3 or even the wii. it's not persistent, which means that it disappears whenever you shut down your device, not unlike a tethered iOS jailbreak. (also pretty sure it disappears whenever you run a DS, DSi or GBA VC game... but pretty sure we could work around that for the most part)
so no, this isn't anything super revolutionary; it won't work on anything past 4.5 and is no more practical than GW's solution.
but it does mean we can do some really cool stuff. unfortunately, giving everyone the ability to do all that cool stuff could have huge downsides; pretty sure everyone would kill me if i released something that allowed people to cheat on pokemon. more or less fortunately though, no need to worry about that for now as this is still very much in its infancy and won't be seeing a release for a while !

but yeah no this isn't just a banner edit or string edit or whatever.

(also i only tweeted one pic but... http://smealum.net/f1.jpg http://smealum.net/f2.jpg http://smealum.net/f3.jpg http://smealum.net/f4.jpg )
 

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Hey that's cool, I think it's similar to what Total_Noob did with PSP, but I can see that you would hardly figure out how to add official Nintendo stuff added on the latest firmware and that's a letdown.
 

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Still don't think Smealum would release it so that piracy would go rampart on the 3DS.

A release would ofcourse be appreciated.
But pretty much all hackers are opposed to piracy.



R4 disaster.
R4 was hacked and copied a billion times.
Due to it being copied a billion times, it became incredibly cheap.
And ofcourse scumbags want everything for pretty much nothing.
That + social media fueled it.

all hackers are opposed to piracy?

im a "hacker"
i root my phone, i code my own software for it and i support piracy, i dont support it for reasons you think i support it

i support piracy because it is something that is unavoidable, if you allow people to run custom code, people will use that ability to pirate, whether its through emulators or a rom loader, ect. and there is nothing you can do to stop them except for never releasing the ability to do that, but then comes the question of why are you wasting time on hacking a device in which you will never share your work with others?

also i hate to tell you this, but not everyone has a R4, hell i didnt have a flashcart for my DS until a 2 years ago and even then, i just use it to store games i bought so i dont have to carry small game cards with me that i can lose...

ok, i think it's clarification time again... wanted to wait until i had some cooler stuff to show but i don't want things to get too out of hand in the meantime.
so, where to start ? first off, yes, this is by all means a custom firmware we've got running. what does that mean ? essentially, that we can have our own code running concurrently anywhere, at any time. more practically, it means we should be able to add new features to the stock firmware, not only adding some sort of nice homebrew loader to the home menu (maybe), but also for instance taking screenshots, cheats (yeah we can also run code in games apparently), removing region locking and such.
now, what does this *not* mean ? well, mostly it's just not as nice a CFW as are available on say the PSP, the PS3 or even the wii. it's not persistent, which means that it disappears whenever you shut down your device, not unlike a tethered iOS jailbreak. (also pretty sure it disappears whenever you run a DS, DSi or GBA VC game... but pretty sure we could work around that for the most part)
so no, this isn't anything super revolutionary; it won't work on anything past 4.5 and is no more practical than GW's solution.
but it does mean we can do some really cool stuff. unfortunately, giving everyone the ability to do all that cool stuff could have huge downsides; pretty sure everyone would kill me if i released something that allowed people to cheat on pokemon. more or less fortunately though, no need to worry about that for now as this is still very much in its infancy and won't be seeing a release for a while !

but yeah no this isn't just a banner edit or string edit or whatever.

(also i only tweeted one pic but... http://smealum.net/f1.jpg http://smealum.net/f2.jpg http://smealum.net/f3.jpg http://smealum.net/f4.jpg )

thank you for the post

now i know to hold out for CFW

great work buddy :)
 

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ok, i think it's clarification time again... wanted to wait until i had some cooler stuff to show but i don't want things to get too out of hand in the meantime.
so, where to start ? first off, yes, this is by all means a custom firmware we've got running. what does that mean ? essentially, that we can have our own code running concurrently anywhere, at any time. more practically, it means we should be able to add new features to the stock firmware, not only adding some sort of nice homebrew loader to the home menu (maybe), but also for instance taking screenshots, cheats (yeah we can also run code in games apparently), removing region locking and such.
now, what does this *not* mean ? well, mostly it's just not as nice a CFW as are available on say the PSP, the PS3 or even the wii. it's not persistent, which means that it disappears whenever you shut down your device, not unlike a tethered iOS jailbreak. (also pretty sure it disappears whenever you run a DS, DSi or GBA VC game... but pretty sure we could work around that for the most part)
so no, this isn't anything super revolutionary; it won't work on anything past 4.5 and is no more practical than GW's solution.
but it does mean we can do some really cool stuff. unfortunately, giving everyone the ability to do all that cool stuff could have huge downsides; pretty sure everyone would kill me if i released something that allowed people to cheat on pokemon. more or less fortunately though, no need to worry about that for now as this is still very much in its infancy and won't be seeing a release for a while !

but yeah no this isn't just a banner edit or string edit or whatever.

(also i only tweeted one pic but... http://smealum.net/f1.jpg http://smealum.net/f2.jpg http://smealum.net/f3.jpg http://smealum.net/f4.jpg )

Any chance to make some sort of firmware spoofing for retail games? I would really like to play the new zelda in november, but I certainly don't dont want to update my 3DS to 6.x and destroy all hopes for homebrew.
 

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ok, i think it's clarification time again... wanted to wait until i had some cooler stuff to show but i don't want things to get too out of hand in the meantime.
so, where to start ? first off, yes, this is by all means a custom firmware we've got running. what does that mean ? essentially, that we can have our own code running concurrently anywhere, at any time. more practically, it means we should be able to add new features to the stock firmware, not only adding some sort of nice homebrew loader to the home menu (maybe), but also for instance taking screenshots, cheats (yeah we can also run code in games apparently), removing region locking and such.
now, what does this *not* mean ? well, mostly it's just not as nice a CFW as are available on say the PSP, the PS3 or even the wii. it's not persistent, which means that it disappears whenever you shut down your device, not unlike a tethered iOS jailbreak. (also pretty sure it disappears whenever you run a DS, DSi or GBA VC game... but pretty sure we could work around that for the most part)
so no, this isn't anything super revolutionary; it won't work on anything past 4.5 and is no more practical than GW's solution.
but it does mean we can do some really cool stuff. unfortunately, giving everyone the ability to do all that cool stuff could have huge downsides; pretty sure everyone would kill me if i released something that allowed people to cheat on pokemon. more or less fortunately though, no need to worry about that for now as this is still very much in its infancy and won't be seeing a release for a while !

but yeah no this isn't just a banner edit or string edit or whatever.

(also i only tweeted one pic but... http://smealum.net/f1.jpg http://smealum.net/f2.jpg http://smealum.net/f3.jpg http://smealum.net/f4.jpg )

Please do everything in your power to prevent people from cheating on Pokemon online if and when your exploit is released, everything else is gravy.
 
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using a cfw, one could certainly do many thing :) firmware spoofing, firmware fetcher and decrypter (to be able to spoof the current 4.5fw also possibly patch the newer fw to put the exploit back ahah?)? homebrew, cheat and getting the system reversed more softly :)
 

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Drew on screen with sharpie.

Took photos of screen showing different things behind sharpie. :D

JK, JK! : this looks like the start of something awesome! I am hunting for a 4.5 3DS as we speak, and cant wait to get into modding and homebrew.

Keep up the great work dude.
 

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all hackers are opposed to piracy?

im a "hacker"
i root my phone, i code my own software for it and i support piracy, i dont support it for reasons you think i support it

i support piracy because it is something that is unavoidable, if you allow people to run custom code, people will use that ability to pirate, whether its through emulators or a rom loader, ect. and there is nothing you can do to stop them except for never releasing the ability to do that, but then comes the question of why are you wasting time on hacking a device in which you will never share your work with others?

also i hate to tell you this, but not everyone has a R4, hell i didnt have a flashcart for my DS until a 2 years ago and even then, i just use it to store games i bought so i dont have to carry small game cards with me that i can lose...


Not to bash you but, wow, you rooted your phone!
Doesn't mean you're a "hacker" tho, just a modder.
But we can discuss that forever, so lets just leave it here.

That you code your own software is extremely neat tho.
I'd love to see some of your work, but since I got no Android/IOS device.

Twiizers, Failoverflow, Giantpune (don't think he'd support piracy) and others.
They don't support piracy.

Indeed, not everyone had a flashcard.
I also got a couple of flashcards but I also got a couple of games.

Same with me RGH 360.
I backupped every legit game I got (which is quite a few)

removing region locking

Please do.
I ofcourse can't demand it but that would give me the ability to play Hello Kitty for 3DS <3
 
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pretty sure everyone would kill me if i released something that allowed people to cheat on pokemon.


Uh, no? Pretty sure everyone would love you.

more or less fortunately though, no need to worry about that for now as this is still very much in its infancy and won't be seeing a release for a while !


Baaahh, this waiting game has been going on for far too long...
 

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Baaahh, this waiting game has been going on for far too long...

Don't forget that noobs can brick their 3DS very easily.
Well.. even if we'd have a fully fledged CFW which is deemed as safe as the Rebug CFW for PS3, noobs would still fuck it up.

Hell, noobs can even fuck up a simple thing like dragging a FW to an R4 card.


Personally.
Waiting on it for it to be released would be better.
More time for the homebrew community to deliver some awesome stuff and more time for the hackers to make it more safe for the end user.
 

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Any chance to make some sort of firmware spoofing for retail games? I would really like to play the new zelda in november, but I certainly don't dont want to update my 3DS to 6.x and destroy all hopes for homebrew.

Yeah, I would have loved to buy Pokemon, but since I only have a 4.1 3DS, I can't update for it.

essentially, that we can have our own code running concurrently anywhere, at any time. more practically, it means we should be able to add new features to the stock firmware, not only adding some sort of nice homebrew loader to the home menu (maybe), but also for instance taking screenshots, cheats (yeah we can also run code in games apparently), removing region locking and such.

Would it be possible to add official Nintendo features to make the system act like a newer version? That would be awesome! Would it also be possible to remove the blacklist that blocks flashcards and other devices like the Action Replay?

As for the homebrew loader, go for it!

Now, about the screenshot idea, would it be possible to record video and audio without the need for hardware modifications? That way more people could make lets plays of their games without touching the system.

now, what does this *not* mean ? well, mostly it's just not as nice a CFW as are available on say the PSP, the PS3 or even the wii. it's not persistent, which means that it disappears whenever you shut down your device, not unlike a tethered iOS jailbreak. (also pretty sure it disappears whenever you run a DS, DSi or GBA VC game... but pretty sure we could work around that for the most part)

Yep, I knew it was something like that.

unfortunately, giving everyone the ability to do all that cool stuff could have huge downsides; pretty sure everyone would kill me if i released something that allowed people to cheat on pokemon. more or less fortunately though, no need to worry about that for now as this is still very much in its infancy and won't be seeing a release for a while !

Only CanuckBuck would kill you! :D Jk

Just read what I said below.

Please do everything in your power to prevent people from cheating on Pokemon online if and when your exploit is released, everything else is gravy.

I approve of this, but I believe Nintendo already has checks to prevent playing with illegal pokemon online. As for offline play, do whatever you want with that. As with every pokemon game, they have some fun things that only cheats could uncover.

Don't forget that noobs can brick their 3DS very easily.
Well.. even if we'd have a fully fledged CFW which is deemed as safe as the Rebug CFW for PS3, noobs would still fuck it up.

Hell, noobs can even fuck up a simple thing like dragging a FW to an R4 card.


Personally.
Waiting on it for it to be released would be better.
More time for the homebrew community to deliver some awesome stuff and more time for the hackers to make it more safe for the end user.

It'll be better if you release to everyone but the noobs. Noobs aren't very smart to understand what's going on all the time.
 

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ok, i think it's clarification time again... wanted to wait until i had some cooler stuff to show but i don't want things pretty sure everyone would kill me if i released something that allowed people to cheat on pokemon. more or less fortunately though, no need to worry about that for now as this is still very much in its infancy and won't be seeing a release for a while !



How exactly can you cheat in pokemon if you need 4.5 just to make the custom firmware to work, and pokemon requires a much higher version, some kind of firmware spoofing that let's you go online even when the 3ds is not at the required version?
 

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Uh, no? Pretty sure everyone would love you.


Baaahh, this waiting game has been going on for far too long...


a. The few people who cannot "beat" Pokemon (those too lazy to grind) or people who like to win online will be the only ones who like it. I'd very much enjoy victories by countless hours of EV/IV training opposed to some script-kiddie clicking a few buttons and putting his own pokemon into the game.

b. Let him work on it. This argument on waiting has gotten really old, but I think we can all trust this guy as he has proven his credibility. If you want this cfw NOW, then just code your own.
 

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it won't work on anything past 4.5

Just to make sure I'm not misunderstanding, does this just mean that it won't work on 4.5+ in its current state but could do if a new exploit was found, or is there something fundamentally different in higher firmwares that mean that this just outright won't ever work?
 

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a. The few people who cannot "beat" Pokemon (those too lazy to grind) or people who like to win online will be the only ones who like it. I'd very much enjoy victories by countless hours of EV/IV training opposed to some script-kiddie clicking a few buttons and putting his own pokemon into the game.

b. Let him work on it. This argument on waiting has gotten really old, but I think we can all trust this guy as he has proven his credibility. If you want this cfw NOW, then just code your own.


Sheesh, who shit in your shoes?
 

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Don't forget that noobs can brick their 3DS very easily.
Well.. even if we'd have a fully fledged CFW which is deemed as safe as the Rebug CFW for PS3, noobs would still fuck it up.

Hell, noobs can even fuck up a simple thing like dragging a FW to an R4 card.


Personally.
Waiting on it for it to be released would be better.
More time for the homebrew community to deliver some awesome stuff and more time for the hackers to make it more safe for the end user.

won't you need the custom firmware to be already released to make homebrew? or documentation about the firmware\system itself?
 

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won't you need the custom firmware to be already released to make homebrew? or documentation about the firmware\system itself?

Actually, not really.
As long as you got a custom code loader (be it exploit or HBC esque) you can load homebrew.
Only thing the homebrew community needs is a homebrew SDK so that they can develop legal homebrew instead of developing it with a copyrighted SDK.
Yes it does mean they need more documentation about the CPU/GPU/RAM etc.
 
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