Gateway 3DS, News and Information

[Coto]

If they are "exploit" based why cant we run custom code again?

because running unsigned code would require the ability to bypass/revoke RSA checking through loading app process, which would require a valid key or a bug. And the ARM11 features anti-buffer overflow attacks

 

[NakedFaerie]

That firmware 4.5 was like ages ago. I bet none or almost none is still in firmware 4.5

Exactly. I have a 3DS and a 3DSXL and both are on the latest firmware.
When they release an update so it can work on the latest firmware then I'll get one. Till then I'll keep my money.

 

[HtheB]

 

[Lacius]

My 3DS is on 4.5, but I'm probably not going to get this since it doesn't seem very future-proof. Despite the present ability to remove updates from 3DS ROMs, it's only a matter of time before newer games actually require newer software in order to run.

If the Gateway 3DS resulted in an ability to run cheat codes (not online) or save-edit, then that would be another story entirely.

 

[Thirty3Three]

Thanks for the update!
Just a quick question, though.

Let's say Pokemon X/Y, or Smash, required an update to a firmware, unsupported by this flash cart...

Can you still play said rom despite being on firmware 4.5.XX? Like, without updating?

 

[The Milkman]

Eh, I would rather wait for a software based solution. Sooner or later someone is gonna track down neimod, beat him up, and get us our exploit!

 

[Lacius]

Thanks for the update!
Just a quick question, though.

Let's say Pokemon X/Y, or Smash, required an update to a firmware, unsupported by this flash cart...

Can you still play said rom despite being on firmware 4.5.XX? Like, without updating?

Assuming the game doesn't actually require the newer firmware to run and merely wants to auto-update to the latest firmware, then the update can be "removed" from the ROM, launching the ROM will not trigger an auto-update, and the game can presumably be played without updating past 4.5.

If there's something about the new firmware that is required for the game to be played (e.g. A Wii game requiring a new IOS in order to launch), then it appears on the surface that one would be out of luck, hence my earlier concern about this not being future-proof.

 

[gamefan5]

Main 3DS: 6.X.X.X firmware
Second 3DS: 4.5.0-10U
So glad I never updated my second 3DS.
Not sure if I will actually get it though

 

[Thirty3Three]

Assuming the game doesn't actually require the newer firmware to run and merely wants to auto-update to the latest firmware, then the update can be "removed" from the ROM, launching the ROM will not trigger an auto-update, and the game can presumably be played without updating past 4.5.

If there's something about the new firmware that is required for the game to be played (e.g. A Wii game requiring a new IOS in order to launch), then it appears on the surface that one would be out of luck, hence my earlier concern about this not being future-proof.

Yes, that's what I'm worried about. I really appreciate the speedy reply! I'm thinking about grabbing one of these for my younger brother. His birthday's coming up, so maybe as a late birthday gift. However, I'm still a tad skeptical on the authenticity of such a product. I'd be a bit unhappy to have seventy-plus dollars taken from me.

He's very excited for the two game's I've listed, so I'm just a bit cautious, if there are, indeed, firmware requirements. I remember with the PSP, later in its lifetime, (Looking at you, Birth By Sleep) you technically could not remove the 'updates' from the games. You'd have to wait for some sort of patch, for the later stuff.

 

[dalc789]

Wait, will it work on firmwares earlier than 4.5? My 3DS is still on 3.0.0-6 lol

 

[Lacius]

Yes, that's what I'm worried about. I really appreciate the speedy reply! I'm thinking about grabbing one of these for my younger brother. His birthday's coming up, so maybe as a late birthday gift. However, I'm still a tad skeptical on the authenticity of such a product. I'd be a bit unhappy to have seventy-plus dollars taken from me.

He's very excited for the two game's I've listed, so I'm just a bit cautious, if there are, indeed, firmware requirements. I remember with the PSP, later in its lifetime, (Looking at you, Birth By Sleep) you technically could not remove the 'updates' from the games. You'd have to wait for some sort of patch, for the later stuff.

I don't know much about 3DS software revisions. It's entirely possible that 3DS software versions are merely for features, apps, and anti-piracy and have little or nothing to do with the running of actual retail carts (e.g. DSi 1.2 [original stock software] works with all retail cartridges). If this were the case, then the Gateway 3DS has the potential to be (more or less) future-proof. We already have the ability to remove software updates from ROMs, and if the 3DS functions like the DSi (i.e. All past, present, and future 3DS retail cartridges could work with 3DS 1.0 if the auto-updates were removed), then this method of backup-loading would be future-proof (not including other possible anti-piracy measures within the ROMs themselves).

Edit: in short, it comes down to whether the 3DS (precluding bundled auto-updates) functions more like the DSi (all games can run on original software version) or the Wii (games actually require specific software to run properly that would be missing without the update, regardless of whether or not the auto-update is removed from the game).

Wait, will it work on firmwares earlier than 4.5? My 3DS is still on 3.0.0-6 lol

3.0 presumably has the same exploits as 4.5.

 

[tecra_a8]

my 3ds is on 5.1
will it work?

 

[andibad]

yeah an official announcement!

but 3ds rom supported by gateway is only support raw condition on 3ds format or cci/3ds was already trimmed by rom_tools? XP I was just wondering about that

 

[keyra]

ok now let's wait for some reviews
gonna hide in a cave for the next two weeks so i don't read bs on this "get ready to have 1000 pages" thread

 

[deathking]

I wonder how the regions will come into play - i.e is a 4.5 eu going to work the same as a 4.5 us version 3ds

So happy I'm on 2.1

 

[tHciNc]

Pretty funny how they acted like their original video was on 5.X, even going to the point of saying works on all firmwares uptill now, (which was start of june), possibly next update will be they are actually releasing v2.X first, and are working on getting it going on 4.X

 

[lordrand11]

Looks promising for the scene as a whole. I probably won't be worrying about one straight away though. Hopefully with some time and effort we can possibly get a HBC for the 3DS, but still a pretty awesome step forward!

 

[Ziggy Zigzagoon]

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Either way, yellow8's hack was on a firmware version 5, correct? I wonder if there is a stronger link with the minimum requirements of the Gateway 3DS...

 

[Syphurith]

That "we are exploit based" interested me. I would wait for more info.
Hope it does use exploits that would even lead to further hacks (ie cfw not clone card)
(Known exploit by yellow can not work with further fw version of 5.x+)
(Since there is confirmation from the original locked thread telling us 5.x would be accepted by some products)
Also i do wonder what the blue card could do too.
Oh well learn and wait. Hope it at least release.

Either way, yellow8's hack was on a firmware version 5, correct? I wonder if there is a stronger link with the minimum requirements of the Gateway 3DS...

I am afraid that is only working on 4.5 and below. Or Why "upgrade to 5.x or higher not recommended"

 

[idleft]

Hi guys, have you noticed the news that Nintendo has won the lawsuit against flashcard company. Hope this wouldn't affect the gateway 3ds flashcard coming out...