Hacking Making gateway 3ds support multiple Roms on 1 SD card.

[Foxi4]

Uh, no.

Uh, yes.

All contemporary flashcarts contain microcontrollers or FPGA's of some kind and all perform background tasks that are completely independent from those performed by the mother console. In fact, I do believe that that there hasn't been any without microcontrollers after the Game Boy Colour flashcarts era, since those were practically 1:1 cartridge clones. To be painfuly accurate, even standard cartridges contain processing units if you count in memory controllers and such.

 

[xyzmanas]

first of all i was not considering FPGA's or microcontroller what I meant was a good purpose CPU.

Secondly, considering this is the first 3ds flashcart they would be thinking of making huge profits and cutting costs which makes me believe the power they have might still not be capable of all this being discussed. Well these are just speculations as we don't know anything about the cart hoping that it actually exists and works as mentioned.

 

[Foxi4]

first of all i was not considering FPGA's or microcontroller what I meant was a good purpose CPU.

Secondly, considering this is the first 3ds flashcart they would be thinking of making huge profits and cutting costs which makes me believe the power they have might still not be capable of all this being discussed. Well these are just speculations as we don't know anything about the cart hoping that it actually exists and works as mentioned.

You can make a calculator-grade CPU perform all the functions discussed - they're not power-intensive.

 

[xyzmanas]

then why is it that only DStWO allows backdoor upgradation? and not all other chinese fakes?
And yeah I know nowadays the micro-controllers cost few dimes, bought myself few during engg Labs.
Anyway I want them to implemet such features in their next revision and I want the card to be cheaper. Because certainly they'll be making huge money

 

[Rydian]

then why is it that only DStWO allows backdoor upgradation? and not all other chinese fakes?

Money. The cheaper your product is to produce the higher your profit margins can be.

Fucking Duh™.

 

[Foxi4]

Money. The cheaper your product is to produce the higher your profit margins can be.

Fucking Duh™.

Not only that - the structure of the firmware as well as the hardware itself allows it to operate in this fashion without any input from the "mother" device, meaning the console, outside of drawing power. Firmware of other flashcarts isn't capable of such functionality because it's cut out to do the bare minimum, plus it would require far more built-in memory than the microcontrollers used have to offer.

 

[xyzmanas]

Money. The cheaper your product is to produce the higher your profit margins can be.

Fucking Duh™.

the Dstwo sells for 40$ while the others sells for like 10 -15 $.

Don't know what you are trying to point out but pretty sure economics was not your major if you ever made it to college.

 

[Thorhian]

the Dstwo sells for 40$ while the others sells for like 10 -15 $.

Don't know what you are trying to point out but pretty sure economics was not your major if you ever made it to college.

Im pretty sure they are making plenty of money off the DSTwo, it may cost more to make and develop in the first place, but im pretty sure they're still making a crap ton of money (especially since DS flashcarts are still selling since the 3DS doesn't really have any piracy/ hacking options). heck, I bet the DSTwo is probably a bit Overpriced compared to its manufacturing costs (Which means even more money).

 

[Celice]

the Dstwo sells for 40$ while the others sells for like 10 -15 $.

Don't know what you are trying to point out but pretty sure economics was not your major if you ever made it to college.

Don't devolve yourself into petty name calling, please. It's awful to see threads die this way.

 

[Jayro]

I'm just going to wait for a cheaper clone with better features, surely they will flow out before Pokemon releases. :3

 

[Rydian]

the Dstwo sells for 40$ while the others sells for like 10 -15 $.

Don't know what you are trying to point out but pretty sure economics was not your major if you ever made it to college.

Because the final price is totally an exact indicator of the difference between the cost to produce and the profit per.

Wait no, no it's not.

The DSTwo sells great despite the higher price, partially due to being able to update itself without needing to run on the DSi/3DS.

 

[xyzmanas]

Don't devolve yourself into petty name calling, please. It's awful to see threads die this way.

you could have maybe scrolled up and see who started that

 

[Celice]

you could have maybe scrolled up and see who started that

And I noticed who responded to it. You're responsible enough to reply at such lowly level, you ought to be responsible enough to ignore it, if blaming is your game.

It goes us nowhere.

 

[xyzmanas]

oh! thanks for the moral guidance

 

[Warlord698]

I'm just pointing out that the idea of "if a cart doesn't have it at launch it won't have it" doesn't logic.

PERFECT example is the GBAMP (otherwise known as the M2)
going from only being able to play a specific video codec, text files, certain sized pics, and a LIMITED selection of GBA homebrew
to using all kinds of NDS homebrew and (patched) NDS ROMS

 

[TheNintendoEnthusiast]

Because the final price is totally an exact indicator of the difference between the cost to produce and the profit per.

Wait no, no it's not.

The DSTwo sells great despite the higher price, partially due to being able to update itself without needing to run on the DSi/3DS.

I agree with this, I have bought 3x DSTWO over the past few months, because no matter what update Nintendo throws at it, it has a patch within the week of the update. Also the GBA Emulator function sorta sold me from buying an inexpensive alternative

 

[metroid maniac]

Has it been considered that the general ideas of the Ace3DS Pro and the Gateway 3DS be merged?

Effectively, there'd be a cart with DS mode and 3DS mode. From the DS mode, you can write a 3DS game to an internal memory chip, which then gets read in 3DS mode. Only 1 SD card would be necessary for multiple games.

 

[anton123]

Curious. Given that the Supercard DSTwo having an onboard CPU chip, is it possible (not asking if they will) that Supercard can simply build a DSTwo firmware update to emulate the 3DS hack that Gateway did to run on 3DS mode since you could write anything to run on the onboard CPU.

 

[Rydian]

Curious. Given that the Supercard DSTwo having an onboard CPU chip, is it possible (not asking if they will) that Supercard can simply build a DSTwo firmware update to emulate the 3DS hack that Gateway did to run on 3DS mode since you could write anything to run on the onboard CPU.

Well not all parts are rewritable, and we'd likely have to wait until the Gateway has been disassembled and analyzed to see the differences.