Aonouma: New Zelda (Wii U) not ultra realistic nor cartoony; considering DLC

[Deleted_171835]

Today I watched the E3 videos in the eShop and I'm not impressed at all. ALL Nintendo games look over 10 years old and lame. They are taking backward steps with all their games. None look good, none can compare to the PS3/360 and they are about 20 years away from coming close to PS4/xboned.
They have released a huge flop with the WiiU. Its nothing compared to last gen consoles (PS3/360) so how did they expect to get buyers? And re-releasing games is just lame. Mario hasn't changed in many years. Its the same game just with a coat of paint, some updated graphics for a new console. BUT that Mario new 3D mario is a LOT better than Super Mario Bros WiiU but its still not what I call new. It still looks really old like a PS1 game.

Wii U:

youtube.com/watch?v=edg8XX6UyjA (Mario Kart 8)

PS1:

fuck you nintendo and your shitty games with 10 year old PS1 graphics

 

[DaniPoo]

I think that DLC's could be quite ok if they went for something like the "Expansions" in "The elder scrolls" series. Like if you download the DLC after you complete the game it will let you take a boat to a new area and play trough a shorter "side story". That is something I really would pay for.

 

[The Catboy]

Nintendo, y u no announce this during Nintendo Direct?
Looks interesting though, I am glad it's not ultra realistic, that shit look like shit after the first year. Although I prefer the cartoony look like with Wind Waker, it made the game age well compared to most.

 

[EyeZ]

I'm seriously starting to think of making the WiiU purchase now, i love the Zelda franchise, and that pic in the OP looks amazing.

 

[SSVAV]

Today I watched the E3 videos in the eShop and I'm not impressed at all. ALL Nintendo games look over 10 years old and lame. They are taking backward steps with all their games. None look good, none can compare to the PS3/360 and they are about 20 years away from coming close to PS4/xboned.
They have released a huge flop with the WiiU. Its nothing compared to last gen consoles (PS3/360) so how did they expect to get buyers? And re-releasing games is just lame. Mario hasn't changed in many years. Its the same game just with a coat of paint, some updated graphics for a new console. BUT that Mario new 3D mario is a LOT better than Super Mario Bros WiiU but its still not what I call new. It still looks really old like a PS1 game.

What Nintendo really need to do is stop their in-house games as they are just lame now and give a lot more support to 3rd party devs.
How can you sell more consoles with the same game over and over? Mario Kart 8? Its never changed for all 8 versions. Its still the same characters in the same cars driving around the same tracks. The only thing changed is the console your playing it on.

For kids that are so young they weren't born when the previous version came out then it might be ok but those kids don't own the kind of money to afford those consoles or the price of the games. Their parents see the name "Mario Kart" and refuse to buy it as they already own 3 Mario Karts on 3 different consoles so why would they want to buy a 4th version of the same game? And they also played Super Mario Bro's when they were kids so why would they pay $100 for a game that's 20 year old?

Rant over. I'm just annoyed I brought a WiiU and that's the kind of things they release for it. I will probably get Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed 4 just so the console will get some use, BUT as I get achievements and trophies on other consoles the WiiU isn't really the desired console to buy games for that are multi-platform games.


I don't like any type of DLC as that's just lame. SO they make a game but force you to pay extra for parts they could've put in the game anyway?
The only time DLC is ok is when it's made AFTER the game is already released. If they make the DLC alongside making the full game then it should be in the game already.
I remember when I first dealt with DLC, that was Quake 2 DLC. It was made about 1 year AFTER Quake 2 was released and it was free. It was a THANK YOU for so many sales and so many happy, loyal fans.
These days there is nothing like that any more. The devs don't care for gamers and they only care for the money they make. If they make lots of money then they release DLC at a high price to make even more money.

WHERE are the days when the game devs released things to thank the gamer? and WHERE is all the free stuff gone?

Get your eyes checked mate...

And your brain while you're at it

 

[Taleweaver]

So they're not going to make it realistic and not cartoony? Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but it sounds like the ends of the full spectrum to me. Result: I have no idea what Zelda is going to look like. "Sin city"-style film noir, perhaps?

 

[weavile001]

basicaly, the game will have Twilight Princess-style Graphics with more lighting?.

Kinda Sad realistic graphics will look crappy on a wii u.. Cartoony too so if they mix it up they can "hide" the failure of the Wii u.

I have seen it but still the Wii u isn't using a standard they really disappointed me Wii u is considered Nintendo's next gen and still it doesn't beat the ps3 or xbox 360. A lot of developers are retiring from the wii u because it's a dead console only NINTENDO only games will sell ofcourse like selda and mario.. When the ps4 or Xbox1 will get released the wii u will be done because the xbox1 is making a lot of nice family games with the kinect

 

[Sarvesh50]

Kinda Sad realistic graphics will look crappy on a wii u.. Cartoony too so if they mix it up they can "hide" the failure of the Wii u.

 

[SSVAV]

Kinda Sad realistic graphics will look crappy on a wii u.. Cartoony too so if they mix it up they can "hide" the failure of the Wii u.

You've seen the Zelda tech demo, right? And Zelda Wind Waker HD?

What looks "crappy" about those games? Maybe it isn't gritty enough for your tastes?

 

[jacksprat1990]

Kinda Sad realistic graphics will look crappy on a wii u.. Cartoony too so if they mix it up they can "hide" the failure of the Wii u.

There are no realistic graphics present in any console. We are a long way off anything looking realistic. All games look like games. WiiU, failure? Go home boy, you're drunk.

 

[totalnoob617]

Thank you! My doubts are cleared now I was really hoping it just wouldn't be too realistic, it would be awesome if they use SS' art-style.

what, SS art style was the worst one ever
OOT and WW were much better than that shit mess of an art style
the spaceworld demo for gamecube zlda that never materialized and the wiiu zelda demo look much better

 

[Sarvesh50]

You've seen the Zelda tech demo, right? And Zelda Wind Waker HD?

What looks "crappy" about those games? Maybe it isn't gritty enough for your tastes?

I have seen it but still the Wii u isn't using a standard they really disappointed me Wii u is considered Nintendo's next gen and still it doesn't beat the ps3 or xbox 360. A lot of developers are retiring from the wii u because it's a dead console only NINTENDO only games will sell ofcourse like selda and mario.. When the ps4 or Xbox1 will get released the wii u will be done because the xbox1 is making a lot of nice family games with the kinect

 

[Necron]

An ultra realistic Zelda could be good, like its own set of games. Like in the WW/PH/ST had cartoony, and Skyward Sword was colourful, it would be nice to see one with those kind of graphics.

 

[mrtofu]

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[beta4attack]

I have seen it but still the Wii u isn't using a standard they really disappointed me Wii u is considered Nintendo's next gen and still it doesn't beat the ps3 or xbox 360. A lot of developers are retiring from the wii u because it's a dead console only NINTENDO only games will sell ofcourse like selda and mario.. When the ps4 or Xbox1 will get released the wii u will be done because the xbox1 is making a lot of nice family games with the kinect

1) I take back what I said in this joke, it was mean and I apologize for it.
2) I wasn't aware that the Xbox 1 had Kinect and I thought that was like... 2 generations ago?
Jokes aside, have you been following the news lately? Do you SERIOUSLY think the Xbox One is better than that Wii U? That anti-consumer TV box, really? Dude, with all this negativity there's a big chance that it might not do that well because of the DRM fiasco and whatnot. Do you really think third-parties will go to THAT abomination in the future? And have we not learned from the generations before? Was the Wii done when both X360 and PS3 began hitting hard? No. Was the 3DS done when the Vita released? No. Yeah, of course the PS4 could actually give hard time for the Wii U because it's a good system, but Xbox One? Nope, unlikely. So, tldr; only the Xbox is Done

 

[SSVAV]

I have seen it but still the Wii u isn't using a standard they really disappointed me Wii u is considered Nintendo's next gen and still it doesn't beat the ps3 or xbox 360. A lot of developers are retiring from the wii u because it's a dead console only NINTENDO only games will sell ofcourse like selda and mario.. When the ps4 or Xbox1 will get released the wii u will be done because the xbox1 is making a lot of nice family games with the kinect

First the Wii U is more powerful than the PS3 and the X360, simply because of the fact that Nintendo would not use 7 year-old hardware. If you want proof then Most Wanted U is one, for that game uses the PC version assets for both textures and shaders, while still running at a nearly-constant framerate (as opposed to the PS360 versions, prone to frame drops).

Then you say Microsoft is caring about family games, wake up, absolutely NO party game has been announced neither for the PS4 nor Xbox 1, if it has been announced it is not the main focus either way. Their focus right now (M$) is to offer "LOOK AT THIS MORE GRAY THAN BEFORE" (parody of Ryse and dead Rising 3).

And COME ON, no parent is paying 500$/€ for a friggin game machine for their kids that requires on top of that a internet connection AND a monthly fee.

Then you say you didn't see the tech demo but still maintain it looks crappy, you are just repeating like some parrot what the gaming "press" have been trolling about Nintendo for years.

Seriously before you talk you should inform yourself, it will make you a better consumer than the average gaming Joe.

 

[Sarvesh50]

1) Xbox One can't make games, devs do
2) I wasn't aware that the Xbox 1 had Kinect and I thought that was like... 2 generations ago?
Jokes aside, have you been following the news lately? Do you SERIOUSLY think the Xbox One is better than that Wii U? That anti-consumer TV box, really? Dude, with all this negativity there's a big chance that it might not do that well because of the DRM fiasco and whatnot. Do you really think third-parties will go to THAT abomination in the future? And have we not learned from the generations before? Was the Wii done when both X360 and PS3 began hitting hard? No. Was the 3DS done when the Vita released? No. Yeah, of course the PS4 could actually give hard time for the Wii U because it's a good system, but Xbox One? Nope, unlikely. So, tldr; only the Xbox is Done

Yea Devs make games but still microsoft is trying to please a wider audience then the hardcore gamers only..
second We hardcore gamers/ nerds/ (pc lovers) care about DRM and and the NSA privacy talk but a consumer walks into a store without any research and then buys a product that has been marketed as good the things we care about isn't the same as a consumer.

First the Wii U is more powerful than the PS3 and the X360, simply because of the fact that Nintendo would not use 7 year-old hardware. If you want proof then Most Wanted U is one, for that game uses the PC version assets for both textures and shaders, while still running at a nearly-constant framerate (as opposed to the PS360 versions, prone to frame drops).

Then you say Microsoft is caring about family games, wake up, absolutely NO party game has been announced neither for the PS4 nor Xbox 1, if it has been announced it is not the main focus either way. Their focus right now (M$) is to offer "LOOK AT THIS MORE GRAY THAN BEFORE" (parody of Ryse and dead Rising 3).

And COME ON, no parent is paying 500$/€ for a friggin game machine for their kids that requires on top of that a internet connection AND a monthly fee.

Then you say you didn't see the tech demo but still maintain it looks crappy, you are just repeating like some parrot what the gaming "press" have been trolling about Nintendo for years.


Seriously before you talk you should inform yourself, it will make you a better consumer than the average gaming Joe.

ok the wii u maybe a litlle bit more powerfull then the ps3 or xbox360 but then still it's a piece of **** they could have invented a way better console then this nintendo is building on some great names they have mario and zelda mainly. Microsofts cares about family games really they do they want a wider audience and ofcourse they didn't annouce any family game on the E3.. E3 is mainly for the gamers gamers don't want to see family games on such a event or they will be pissed about it. Secondly the parents you are talking about won't be informed about the always online or monthly fee they buy and than cry.. people like to buy new things nobody cares for a console thats already a year old.

when was the last time nintendo made a new franchise? nintendo is building on their no they aren't building they are milking there games right now.. thats all.
This is my opinion and i know a lot of people will disagree and i respect that but this is my vision.
also friend of mine works in a game store he his colleagues are very negative about the wii u. Not because they hate it no because it doesn't sell at all everybody is waiting for the new xbox or ps.

 

[beta4attack]

Yea Devs make games but still microsoft is trying to please a wider audience then the hardcore gamers only..
second We hardcore gamers/ nerds/ (pc lovers) care about DRM and and the NSA privacy talk but a consumer walks into a store without any research and then buys a product that has been marketed as good the things we care about isn't the same as a consumer.

So, wait, some casual gullible people who know nothing about the console will just buy it over two other cheaper consoles? Makes sense...

 

[SSVAV]

Yea Devs make games but still microsoft is trying to please a wider audience then the hardcore gamers only..
second We hardcore gamers/ nerds/ (pc lovers) care about DRM and and the NSA privacy talk but a consumer walks into a store without any research and then buys a product that has been marketed as good the things we care about isn't the same as a consumer.

Riiiiight. When a consumer goes in he sees a choice: PS4, XBox 1 and Wii U. You seriously think he would go for the more expensive console, the Xbox 1, when a 100$/€ cheaper alternative is right in front of him, the PS4, that has the exact same games, with only a minority of exclusives whose core demographic aren't going to be random customers? (Forza, Titanfall, Quantum Break).

I'm sorry. My choice has been made for a Wii U / PS4 combo, just like the past generation. They offer a lot more value for a lot less money then the Xbox 1.

BACK ON TOPIC GUYS

Edit: Not counting the fact the XB1 will not be available in over 3/4 of the world, excluding large gaming communities like Poland or Romania, and with no confirmed Japanese release (if you do not count "eventually" as confirmed).

 

[Sarvesh50]

So, wait, some casual gullible people who know nothing about the console will just buy it over two other cheaper consoles? Makes sense...

Dude a shirt in grocery store vs a nike shirt people buy the expensive nike shirt because expensive means better in their eyes if they dont know sh** about it they'll think oh that one is expensive it must be good then

Riiiiight. When a consumer goes in he sees a choice: PS4, XBox 1 and Wii U. You seriously think he would go for the more expensive console, the Xbox 1, when a 100$/€ cheaper alternative is right in front of him, the PS4, that has the exact same games, with only a minority of exclusives whose core demographic aren't going to be random customers? (Forza, Titanfall, Quantum Break).

I'm sorry. My choice has been made for a Wii U / PS4 combo, just like the past generation. They offer a lot more value for a lot less money then the Xbox 1.

BACK ON TOPIC GUYS

Edit: Not counting the fact the XB1 will not be available in over 3/4 of the world, excluding large gaming communities like Poland or Romania, and with no confirmed Japanese release.

It's all about marketing people can sell a piece of shit if they market it right you'll see