E3 2013 Press Conferences

[KingdomBlade]

Honestly, I'd like to see Sony blow everyone else away, I really would, but unless they have something truly incredible hidden up their asses, I just don't see it happening. The Vita, much as I love mine, is getting beaten into the ground by the 3DS, and we all know about how stubborn Sony is with price cuts, and the PS4, aside from generating five fucktillion articles about "OMFG U GAIZ THIS IS WAHT TEH PS4 LOOKS LIEK," really needs to be emphasized as being as far removed from the Xbone as possible, otherwise the confusion about Sony's answers to similar questions asked to Microsoft that were received badly may very well hurt their sales(Don't believe me? Check out this thread and see how many times people had to be informed and corrected that Sony DID in fact confirm they weren't doing the same shit as Microsoft: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/for...n-Game-Borrowing-and-Used-Game-Details?page=1 ).

I may love Nintendo, but I'm no fool; they aren't anywhere near perfect, and quite frankly, I think they need to get shut out for another gen to force them to step up like they have on their handheld, I simply don't believe it's gonna happen.

Eh. I'll end up with both eventually...

... That seems like a horrendously isolated case. The majority of responses were pretty positive, with very little criticism. I don't think they need to save their asses from anything regarding the PS4 to be honest. The response was pretty good. The Vita has no gaems. I'll not argue with that. It really does not have gaems, but it's a pretty stellar device in itself. I think Sony has a pretty decent chance to impress.

 

[Warrior522]

... That seems like a horrendously isolated case. The majority of responses were pretty positive, with very little criticism. I don't think they need to save their asses from anything regarding the PS4 to be honest. The response was pretty good. The Vita has no gaems. I'll not argue with that. It really does not have gaems, but it's a pretty stellar device in itself. I think Sony has a pretty decent chance to impress.

Thing is, the Vita does have several great games; just not ones with the level of recognition Nintendo franchises have. They gave up the Uncharted trump card early, and it wasn't enough; the ports of great games are lovely, but are still just that, ports, and quite frankly, it seems as though most of the news sites have written it off as a failure despite Sony showing no signs of calling it a day any time soon.

Unrelated: I clicked on the link in your siggy while thinking "please be 'fuck you' please be 'fuck you' please be 'fuck you'" and literally roared "YES!" when it was. I think I scared my family a little...

 

[Hop2089]

The Vita has quite a few RPG offerings this Summer and Fall. I'm pretty interested in Exstetra although it's a multiplat since it's also for the 3DS.

 

[mrtofu]

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[EthanObi]

So much for NINTENDOOMED...267 People and counting anticipating Nintendo E3..Including me! , Though it's most likely all Poketards

 

[JulietStMoon]

So much for NINTENDOOMED...267 People and counting anticipating Nintendo E3..Including me! , Though it's most likely all Poketards

Plus this is a very nintendo-centric site, so it doesn't mean much.

 

[Foxi4]

Plus this is a very nintendo-centric site, so it doesn't mean much.

The results of this poll still baffle me though. Nintendo won't "fail" at their conference because they literally don't have one - they're releasing pre-recorded Nintendo Directs and on the presentation proper they'll show a few game demo's on-stage - big whoop. They have nothing to show - the 3DS is out with no revision on the horizon, the WiiU was already released (to the collective yawning of the gaming community I might add), I can't see what would be so jawdropping about their E3 presentation.

Sony has an exciting new console to showcase, Microsoft has to dig its way out of its own convoluted statements (which will be a quite a show to behold on its own) but apparently the stage lights are all on Nintendo showing off titles that may or may not give the WiiU the long-awaited "first-party CPR" to save it from complete obscurity.

Great, gotta love me some GBATemp non-bias polls.

 

[KingdomBlade]

Thing is, the Vita does have several great games; just not ones with the level of recognition Nintendo franchises have. They gave up the Uncharted trump card early, and it wasn't enough; the ports of great games are lovely, but are still just that, ports, and quite frankly, it seems as though most of the news sites have written it off as a failure despite Sony showing no signs of calling it a day any time soon.

Unrelated: I clicked on the link in your siggy while thinking "please be 'fuck you' please be 'fuck you' please be 'fuck you'" and literally roared "YES!" when it was. I think I scared my family a little...

Well, they faced a similar situation with the PSP at the beginning. I recall the PSP having an awful game library early on. Well, that sold 76 million units eventually. I severely doubt the Vita will end up becoming a failure. Right now, it seems to have a few fantastic ports (Persona 4 Golden!) I expect a resurgence eventually, when they drop the price, it gets a decent game library (a Dissidia game, plox Squre Enix,) and it starts selling in other markets. Maybe I'll pick one up when there's a price drop or a new revision comes out.

 

[hhs]

EA, Activision and Ubisoft are all happening at or after midnight on a workday where I am. Not worth staying up for. At best they'll show a multiplat like Fallout, Mass Effect or something new on the Xbox. Sony is in the middle of a workday for me and Nintendo I'll stay up for.

 

[JulietStMoon]

The results of this poll still baffle me though. Nintendo won't "fail" at their conference because they literally don't have one - they're releasing pre-recorded Nintendo Directs and on the presentation proper they'll show a few game demo's on-stage - big whoop. They have nothing to show - the 3DS is out with no revision on the horizon, the WiiU was already released (to the collective yawning of the gaming community I might add), I can't see what would be so jawdropping about their E3 presentation.

Sony has an exciting new console to showcase, Microsoft has to dig its way out of its own convoluted statements (which will be a quite a show to behold on its own) but apparently the stage lights are all on Nintendo showing off titles that may or may not give the WiiU the long-awaited "first-party CPR" to save it from complete obscurity.

Great, gotta love me some GBATemp non-bias polls.

Because this post right here is SO unbiased, right? XD

Seriously, everyone who pulls the "Nintendo isn't having a conference," BS is either ignorant, blindly biased against them, or just didn't take even a moment to think about why it doesn't make sense. To the people paying attention to E3 (most of which who will be doing so on the internet, and not in person at the conference), how the HECK does a Nintendo Direct (Is it prerecorded? I was under the impression it was live, but I'm not sure) make any difference versus a conference on the fancy stage?

The answer is none at all. The only concern is Nintendo's announcements "flying under the radar" compared to the others having conferences during the main E3 stream/show/whatever, since it'll be shown separately. It makes no differences regarding the quality and volume of content shown, like everyone is claiming.

And if Nintendo is to be believed (can't say I blame the skepticism since they claimed the same thing before the Wii U launch), there's going to be some 3rd party presence, and rumors even talk about a supposed "shocking" 3rd party acquisition.

Anyway, I'm just gonna stop there. Not sure why I even bothered, since you apparently think even MICROSOFT has more of a chance than NINTENDOOOOOOOOOOOMED does despite the near-exclusive negativity going on about the Xbox1 before it was even unveiled.

 

[Foxi4]

Seriously, everyone who pulls the "Nintendo isn't having a conference," BS is either ignorant, blindly biased against them, or just didn't take even a moment to think about why it doesn't make sense. To the people paying attention to E3 (most of which who will be doing so on the internet, and not in person at the conference), how the HECK does a Nintendo Direct (Is it prerecorded? I was under the impression it was live, but I'm not sure) make any difference versus a conference on the fancy stage?

That wasn't my point. They'll be showing a few games for their systems and that's that - it's not nearly as exciting as an unveiling of an entirely new system which we know very little about. It's just not in the same "league" of presentations and it definitely doesn't warrant the hype it's getting.

Nintendo had the stage last year and the spotlight was all on them - sure. This year? Not so much. There's truckloads of more interesting stuff to be seen on E3 this year in my opinion, but maybe that's because I'm more of a techie guy and new systems always make me squee.

Sony's presentation will no doubt be a view to behold, Microsoft's presentation will be a cringeworthy spectacle of them trying not to alienate the already alienated target audience and Nintendo's presentation will be... well... trying hard to prove that Nintendoes what others don't.

 

[Jan1tor]

I may be silly here but I voted for UBI soft because it seems like they are the one company that are supporting all the consoles. It seems like they have their head in the game and want to make good games and money by making good games for all the systems. They have not dissed any one console maker, they are keeping up with the new gaming architecture as well as the current generation. Plus the games just look great. That is why UBI got my vote. Even though they pissed me off on the delay of Rayman.

 

[JulietStMoon]

That wasn't my point. They'll be showing a few games for their systems and that's that - it's not nearly as exciting as an unveiling of an entirely new system which we know very little about. It's just not in the same "league" of presentations and it definitely doesn't warrant the hype it's getting.

Nintendo had the stage last year and the spotlight was all on them - sure. This year? Not so much. There's truckloads of more interesting stuff to be seen on E3 this year in my opinion, but maybe that's because I'm more of a techie guy and new systems always make me squee.

Sony's presentation will no doubt be a view to behold, Microsoft's presentation will be a cringeworthy spectacle of them trying not to alienate the already alienated target audience and Nintendo's presentation will be... well... trying hard to prove that Nintendoes what others don't.

In that case, there's a huge difference between "which conference will be the most interesting/exciting" and "which conference will be the best". And as I mentioned in a previous post you might not have seen, Nintendo unveiled/gave details for an upcoming console for the past two E3s, and they were considered pretty awful conferences.

I may be silly here but I voted for UBI soft because it seems like they are the one company that are supporting all the consoles. It seems like they have their head in the game and want to make good games and money by making good games for all the systems. They have not dissed any one console maker, they are keeping up with the new gaming architecture as well as the current generation. Plus the games just look great. That is why UBI got my vote. Even though they pissed me off on the delay of Rayman.

Well, they had an amazing conference last year, so I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Foxi4]

In that case, there's a huge difference between "which conference will be the most interesting/exciting" and "which conference will be the best". And as I mentioned in a previous post you might not have seen, Nintendo unveiled/gave details for an upcoming console for the past two E3s, and they were considered pretty awful conferences.

Really? I quite enjoyed the WiiU conference...

Maybe that's because I'm this rare type of gamer who's totally on-board with the whole "Gamepad" concept - a lot of people seem to hate it but I think it opens a door of possibilities for game developers, it just has to be used right. If not for the underwhelming hardware, I'd totally ride the WiiU hype train.

 

[JulietStMoon]

Really? I quite enjoyed the WiiU conference...

Maybe that's because I'm this rare type of gamer who's totally on-board with the whole "Gamepad" concept - a lot of people seem to hate it but I think it opens a door of possibilities for game developers, it just has to be used right. If not for the underwhelming hardware, I'd totally ride the WiiU hype train.

Yeah. I mean, the gamepad essentially turns the thing into a giant DS, with the addition of about 5 more inputs (second analog, extra triggers, and analog clickers) and the screens being separate from each other... Not sure why that's hard for developers to understand, when they had no problem with the DS.

 

[grossaffe]

That wasn't my point. They'll be showing a few games for their systems and that's that - it's not nearly as exciting as an unveiling of an entirely new system which we know very little about. It's just not in the same "league" of presentations and it definitely doesn't warrant the hype it's getting.

Games will always win out over hardware, in my opinion. The exciting thing about the unveiling of new hardware are the gaming possibilities the new hardware brings about. If Sony and Microsoft bring out some great games to go with their hardware, more power to 'em. When it comes to games, though, I have higher expectations from Nintendo. Many of the games we expect to see, we still don't know very much about, and I'm positive that we'll see some games that we don't already know about.

Will we see Retro's game? Miyamoto's secret project? Zelda Wii U? What other Nintendo studios have been quietly chugging along behind the scenes? What's in store for the new 3D Mario game? New Smash Bros. characters? etc.
Nintendo has a lot of questions they can answer, and surprises they can unveil, despite not coming out with new hardware this year.

 

[KingVamp]

This discussion is getting nowhere, let's end it here and not derail the topic,

And yet, you still kept going.

Well, at least you had the courage and assumed that you're a fanboy and will vote for it no matter what happens.It would be nice to see some other people do that --cough, cough, soulx, xwatchmenx, cough, eerpow, cough, Kingvamp

So, looking forward to games makes you a "fanboy"? If so, you lost your way as much as Microsoft did with their DRM cable box Xbox 1.

You are a fanboy if you vote for Nintendo and you are a fanboy if you don't...

Let's be fair,VMM isn't calling everyone a fanboy that doesn't agrees with him, he just calling everyone a fanboy that disagrees with him.

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Yes, just yes. You said almost everything I was thinking, if not more.
Really, Nintendo shown as much at E3 that Sony shown at there conference.Tech demos, games and console.

Iirc, the last E3 may not have been that good, but then they shown a awesome direct right after it, then more so later on.


With Directs, they appeal straight to us and not with investors.

For the record, in one form or another, I've been with Sony and Nintendo the whole time.

 

[Foxi4]

Will we see Retro's game?

Probably a "show-saver".

Miyamoto's secret project?

Not particularily interested.

Zelda Wii U?

Wind Waker remake? Can't wait to be bored in HD.

What other Nintendo studios have been quietly chugging along behind the scenes?

High hopes for Monolith as long as their new game isn't anything like "Xenoblade".

What's in store for the new 3D Mario game?

Ehh...

New Smash Bros. characters? etc.

Smash Bros. is always welcome in my heart, one of my favourite series.

Nintendo has a lot of questions they can answer, and surprises they can unveil, despite not coming out with new hardware this year.

Oh, sure, no doubt. Still, it's just not in the same league as hardware unveilings in my book. No doubt Sony and Microsoft have some games ready to showcase themselves plus we'll learn more about their Next Gens, which is why I think those two presentations will grab much more attention. Nintendo knew they'll be in their shadow this year which is why they didn't prepare a mind-blowing massive show (or so the story goes) but I suppose we'll see what they have in store tomorrow.

 

[KingVamp]

when they had no problem with the DS.

The ds had a lagging beginning too, iirc.

 

[grossaffe]

Not particularily interested.

Could be awesome, could be another Wii Music. Miyamoto is a legend, though, so I'll always pay attention to what he does. Personal opinion, though.

Wind Waker remake? Can't wait to be bored in HD.

I was actually referring to a new one. I know we'll see WW HD, but maybe we'll see something about the new one (probably a teaser that won't really reveal much but draw a lot of speculation like the Skyward Sword "reveal".

High hopes for Monolith as long as their new game isn't anything like "Xenoblade".

May as well pass on it, then, since we've already gotten a glimpse at their next project, temporarily titled 'X', which looks to have a high probability of being a sequel to Xenoblade. Even if somehow it isn't a sequel, it definitely looks to be drawing heavily from it. That said, how could you not want another Xenoblade ? I thought it was fantastic.

Smash Bros. is always welcome in my heart, one of my favourite series.

alright, common ground!

Oh, sure, no doubt. Still, it's just not in the same league as hardware unveilings in my book. No doubt Sony and Microsoft have some games ready to showcase themselves plus we'll learn more about their Next Gens, which is why I think those two presentations will grab much more attention. Nintendo knew they'll be in their shadow this year which is why they didn't prepare a mind-blowing massive show (or so the story goes) but I suppose we'll see what they have in store tomorrow.

We'll see. I hope they have good showings (well, maybe I want to see Microsoft burn after their DRM issue) because I really want to see good things for gamers. Highly doubtful I'll buy an Xbone or a PS4, but I still hope they can put out some good things that people will enjoy. On a related note, when are PS3 owners finally gonna get their hands on The Last Guardian?