Hacking $80 Gateway card worth it?

[Lestworth]

To me its mindblowing this is even a question. You either get it now, or wait for a clone that has even less for even cheaper, or you wait even longer for it to develope and become what everyone wishes it is right now.

To even ask the question " Does $80 = $2000+ " ... " Worth it? " is just being spoiled =|. Yes the price is pretty high, but considering its the FIRST, they have the right to price it where they see fit. $80 to play every game on the 3DS up to this point, as long as you dont update until they say it still works with that update is worth an $80 investment. I think the majority of us have a hacked wii, due the fact that the wii basically has nothing on it besides 10 first party games. The hacking is free now, as well as many other systems hacks to a limit. We have come to a point in almost every current console where the prices for modchips are so cheap its stupid, however we have all forgotten their original price tags.

Yes $80 feels a lot, but given the news and reports that it works, its an investment for those that are impatient, and want to play ROM's NOW.

FYI, working around the stupid law to prevent people from downloading "stuff" is so easy, that even i have been able to do it, and im not even computer savy, its called a VPN ....

 

[Ryukouki]

Honestly, you guys are SERIOUSLY spoiled by the current generation of flashcarts that cost like $10 or $15. That's really all it is. If any oldie remembers the days of the first flashcarts, it's a similar price mark, with similar one game per card scenarios. In fact this price is quite reasonable, and considering what is opened up with all of these games, I'd say its completely worth it.

 

[DiabloStorm]

The 3ds has no shovelware because it only hasnt been hacked yet

Lol, yeah, because this is totally not stereotypical Ubisoft shovelware, this is a game revered by all...

Spoiler

 

[DiabloStorm]

Honestly, you guys are SERIOUSLY spoiled by the current generation of flashcarts that cost like $10 or $15. That's really all it is. If any oldie remembers the days of the first flashcarts, it's a similar price mark, with similar one game per card scenarios. In fact this price is quite reasonable, and considering what is opened up with all of these games, I'd say its completely worth it.

I disagree, I think that mentality will set you up to be the victim of a scam*. It has nothing to do with being spoiled, more like being frugal. Patience will reward cheaper carts with more features, history has shown this. No need to chastise people that actually use their brains here... Early technology is always retardedly overpriced, just because people don't hop on the wallet-sucking bandwagon doesn't mean they're spoiled.

*inb4 Rydian

 

[Ryukouki]

I disagree, I think that mentality will set you up to be the victim of a scam. It has nothing to do with being spoiled, more like being frugal. Patience will reward cheaper carts with more features, history has shown this. No need to chastise people that actually use their brains here... Early technology is always retardedly overpriced, just because people don't hop on the wallet-sucking bandwagon doesn't mean they're spoiled.

And I totally hear your complaints. I see where the complaints come from, but I was around a long time when the community was rather young, so I have a different mentality.

 

[Rydian]

Are you gonna buy one?

I don't even have a 3DS.

The 3ds has no shovelware because it only hasnt been hacked yet

First game that existed for the DS was electroplankton.

Yeah, no.

 

[DiabloStorm]

I don't even have a 3DS.

First game that existed for the DS was electroplankton.

Yeah, no.

I'm pretty sure that guy doesn't know what shovelware is...

 

[Rydian]

I don't. I don't have enough interest in games on the 3DS to buy one.

But that doesn't stop me from recognizing how economical flash carts are for the average person, which is part of why they're so popular. If the flash cart and cost of obtaining the ROMs is less than you'd pay for the game carts retail, then you save money by using a flash cart.

 

[DiabloStorm]

I don't. I don't have enough interest in games on the 3DS to buy one.

But that doesn't stop me from recognizing how economical flash carts are for the average person, which is part of why they're so popular. If the flash cart and cost of obtaining the ROMs is less than you'd pay for the game carts retail, then you save money by using a flash cart.

That's the general mentality pushing people to decide to buy right now (before it's even released or reviewed), but it's a little naive to think so until we get a sample review on here to confirm anything.
Let's say it will play the entire library up until this point in time. You can't play online safely (supposedly), you can't play new releases without potentially having to update, and if you give into the temptation of updating to play a game you're excited about, the cart could get blocked and that's $80 down the toilet.
Dumping 3DS roms doesn't seem like a simple matter for regular end-users, if people start going online and Nintendo is able to notice the same exact game ID is connected thousands of times simultaneously, it's gonna look pretty obvious that these people are using flash carts and most likely are running roms that they didn't dump themselves. Could they potentially track people down? Maybe. (Also I'm not sure if the whole game ID hypothesis has anything to it at this point but I recall someone mentioning this...can't find it to quote it...either way It's not unreasonable to think Ninty upped their game.)

Oh, also, not to mention that you're stuck waiting on the scene to dump ROMs.

Too many what ifs for me to throw down cash for something I have little use for anyway.

 

[Devin]

Everyone waits for the scene to dump things, tis not exclusive to the 3DS. This is more like the 3DS' launch where people didn't buy into it because they were waiting for the 3DS Lite. Perfectly fine to do so, and wait for the kinks to get worked out before buying it. But really the only things we know for sure pertaining to the cart is a window for a release date, minor information about the cart, pricing (But that the Suggested Retail Price, it isn't final.) Speculation about it being patchable, or unpatchable is just that. A maybe based on what the users deem the most reasonable in their head. Same thing happened with the Xbox 360 and ODDEs. People said they could easily be found out from the USB speeds being faster than the disc drive speeds, and that it wouldn't because it uses 1:1 copies of game ISOs to run. But that's still being updated, and works on the lastest Xbox firmware.

Overall, we know very little.

 

[CJL18]

That's the general mentality pushing people to decide to buy right now (before it's even released or reviewed), but it's a little naive to think so until we get a sample review on here to confirm anything.
Let's say it will play the entire library up until this point in time. You can't play online safely (supposedly), you can't play new releases without potentially having to update, and if you give into the temptation of updating to play a game you're excited about, the cart could get blocked and that's $80 down the toilet.
Dumping 3DS roms doesn't seem like a simple matter for regular end-users, if people start going online and Nintendo is able to notice the same exact game ID is connected thousands of times simultaneously, it's gonna look pretty obvious that these people are using flash carts and most likely are running roms that they didn't dump themselves. Could they potentially track people down? Maybe. (Also I'm not sure if the whole game ID hypothesis has anything to it at this point but I recall someone mentioning this...can't find it to quote it...either way It's not unreasonable to think Ninty upped their game.)

Oh, also, not to mention that you're stuck waiting on the scene to dump ROMs.

Too many what ifs for me to throw down cash for something I have little use for anyway



Very good points, but let's say Nintendo blocks it with a update, and then gateway updates there cart allowing u to play newer games would u buy it then?

 

[DiabloStorm]

Very good points, but let's say Nintendo blocks it with a update, and then gateway updates there cart allowing u to play newer games would u buy it then?

Not for that price when what I'm looking for specifically is a way to centralize all of my games into a single cart for convenience.

Everyone waits for the scene to dump things, tis not exclusive to the 3DS. This is more like the 3DS' launch where people didn't buy into it because they were waiting for the 3DS Lite. Perfectly fine to do so, and wait for the kinks to get worked out before buying it. But really the only things we know for sure pertaining to the cart is a window for a release date, minor information about the cart, pricing (But that the Suggested Retail Price, it isn't final.) Speculation about it being patchable, or unpatchable is just that. A maybe based on what the users deem the most reasonable in their head. Same thing happened with the Xbox 360 and ODDEs. People said they could easily be found out from the USB speeds being faster than the disc drive speeds, and that it wouldn't because it uses 1:1 copies of game ISOs to run. But that's still being updated, and works on the lastest Xbox firmware.

Overall, we know very little.

Well...we're talking about the 3DS here, and as far as that goes we're almost exclusively waiting on the scene to dump ROMs because there is no other method to obtain them, unlike DS games which almost anybody could access the tools to dump at this point in time.
I waited a long time before I even chose to buy my DSTWO and I haven't regret my decision yet. Both waiting and being picky in my purchase choice, now look which is the king of ds flash carts...

 

[Rydian]

That's the general mentality pushing people to decide to buy right now (before it's even released or reviewed), but it's a little naive to think so until we get a sample review on here to confirm anything.
Let's say it will play the entire library up until this point in time. You can't play online safely (supposedly), you can't play new releases without potentially having to update, and if you give into the temptation of updating to play a game you're excited about, the cart could get blocked and that's $80 down the toilet.
Dumping 3DS roms doesn't seem like a simple matter for regular end-users, if people start going online and Nintendo is able to notice the same exact game ID is connected thousands of times simultaneously, it's gonna look pretty obvious that these people are using flash carts and most likely are running roms that they didn't dump themselves. Could they potentially track people down? Maybe. (Also I'm not sure if the whole game ID hypothesis has anything to it at this point but I recall someone mentioning this...can't find it to quote it...either way It's not unreasonable to think Ninty upped their game.)

Oh, also, not to mention that you're stuck waiting on the scene to dump ROMs.

Too many what ifs for me to throw down cash for something I have little use for anyway.

PS3, 360, etc. say hi. It takes time and new hacks to get newer games working, online isn't safe, you need to keep your firmware low, etc.

I'm going to say what people have been saying the whole thread: Cheap flash carts for the DS have people spoiled. This is how shit NORMALLY works.

 

[TackyPie]

I think if it can load more than one rom from a single sd card I would pay $80 dollars but since it only load one i dont think so maybe $40 or $50

 

[Kouen Hasuki]

For some reason I thought this was about gateway computers

 

[DiabloStorm]

PS3, 360, etc. say hi. It takes time and new hacks to get newer games working, online isn't safe, you need to keep your firmware low, etc.

I'm going to say what people have been saying the whole thread: Cheap flash carts for the DS have people spoiled. This is how shit NORMALLY works.

Meh *shrug* some may be spoiled, I'm being frugal, call it w/e. What do you expect of people when current gen flashcarts have been suddenly lowered to bare bones standards while doubling the pricing of the last carts, people want the world.

 

[wyndcrosser]

Agreed, this shouldn't be in the hacking & homebrew thread.

 

[Lestworth]

I dont think the question is " Why wait, get it now you noob! " The question people are answering is " Is it worth it? "

No one should scold someone for waiting for the scene to develop, thats just logic. However the question is " Is it worth it? " and the answer is a big fat yes. If you want to start playing ROM's then an $80 price tag for the key to the 3DS library is well worth the price tag despite the crying that it only loads 1 game at a time.

ROM's have been dumped already, they have been dumped for the past year. EU has a bigger library then US atm however, but with this news, it should grow in the US, people havent seen a reason to dump ROM's until now.

 

[Lestworth]

Agreed, this shouldn't be in the hacking & homebrew thread.

yes because a flashcart is totally not hacking

 

[DiabloStorm]

However the question is " Is it worth it? " and the answer is a big fat yes.

I still don't see how it's "yes" when there's been no review on here. Am I the only hardcore skeptic? lol People fool themselves into believing anything they truly want to be real.

Really, at least wait for Devin to get his sample.