New Generation Xbox Event Announced

[Veho]

Why the hell would you want a premade and risk not being able to upgrade or replace essential components?

I think he was talking about the Xbox.

 

[Foxi4]

I think that was satire.

Well then it's bad satire - with a wallet "thick" enough (with wads of cash) you can build quite a beefy one without sweat.

I think he was talking about the Xbox.

As mentioned above, satire has to be accurate to be funny.

 

[Veho]

As mentioned above, satire has to be accurate to be funny.

>implying he was inaccurate

 

[Foxi4]

>implying he was inaccurate

Depends on how broad your definition of "PC" is - for all intents and purposes, any personal device that computes is a personal computer.

 

[Rydian]

Do I need to bring up those Chinese knockoff video game systems that hook right into the TV and only contain the system and one built-in game in the ROM?

 

[Veho]

Depends on how broad your definition of "PC" is - for all intents and purposes, any personal device that computes is a personal computer.

Any machine capable of running Windows.

 

[Foxi4]

Any machine capable of running Windows.

I disagree with that definition on so many levels...

The distinction between "PC" and "Others" is something perpetrated by Apple to "prove" that Mac's are totally nothing like PC's... and yeah, I know you're kidding.

 

[Veho]

The distinction between "PC" and "Others" is something perpetrated by Apple to "prove" that Mac's are totally nothing like PC's...

But Macs can run Windows.

 

[Costello]

can we go back on topic please.
Foxi4, Veho, please
thanks. please, thanks.

 

[Foxi4]

can we go back on topic please.
Foxi4, Veho, please
thanks. please, thanks.

Right. Sorry. Getting to my point now.

What I wanted to say through in this debacle was that you'd have to have a very broad definition of "PC" to treat the new XBox as a PC - just because it (allegedly) uses the x86 architecture doesn't make it one - the original XBox used it and people were perfectly fine with that. As for the cross-connectivity with Windows 8, I can only see benefits here - think of the Multimedia capabilities!

All in all, I don't think it will be a PC, but it very well may act as its extension into the living room space alongside being a video game platform.

...how's that?

 

[Veho]

Sorry, sorry

Back on topic.

I really have to wonder why Microsoft has waited so goddamned long for this announcement. They've given Sony such a huge start I was starting to wonder if they were even in the same race anymore.

They wanted to gauge the public's reaction to the PS4 features, so they could adjust theirs accordingly.

 

[Foxi4]

They wanted to gauge the public's reaction to the PS4 features, so they could adjust theirs accordingly.

...and wasted a lot of time, taking hits left and right due to negative rumours. Now not only they have to top Sony's offer, they need to clean their name - here's for hoping they have loads of stuff to show, they really need to make an "Oomph".

 

[Veho]

...and wasted a lot of time, taking hits left and right due to negative rumours. Now not only they have to top Sony's offer, they need to clean their name - here's for hoping they have loads of stuff to show, they really need to make an "Oomph".

Or maybe the rumors were true and an actual leak and Microsoft used the public reaction as a huge pre-alpha test of the proposed functions before wasting money on implementation, or now have time to undo them before launch, if they decide they would have harmed sales. In any case this delay, and the rumors, gives them time to adjust. It's better the negative reactions be to the rumors than to the official announcement, if you're not intent on sticking to the policy and negative reactions be damned *cough*no rumble in sixaxis*cough*move*cough*. And officially denying the rumors (providing they aren't true, of course) will have every news source that regurgitated the rumors falling over themselves to publish corrections, and that will garner enough publicity.

And Sony doesn't have that much of a head start. Their announcement came sooner, but they didn't really give much info; some hardware specs that the Next Box will likely match, and a few networking features, half of which received a lukewarm welcome at best. As long as both consoles launch at the same time and at similar prices, I don't think Microsoft wasted any time.

 

[emigre]

So who else thinks they will somehow integrate Windows 8 (well RT or something) with the console?
they've always been talking of unification

Maybe they're just big fans of the German unification process?

 

[Veho]

So who else thinks they will somehow integrate Windows 8 (well RT or something) with the console?
they've always been talking of unification

I'm expecting that to happen. They've been talking about integrating every device you own into a monolithic home network, and if nothing else we should see some sort of SmartGlass 2, connecting your Xbox to your smart fridge via your smartphone, and everything backed up on the PC. And streaming everything to everything.

 

[Clydefrosch]

Now I take every pain to block every ad I can everywhere I can (to the point where I waste more time, bandwidth and effort doing it than I ever would have wasted on ads if I even paid attention to them) but I have never quite figured out why some consider it quite so distasteful to have ads on a paid service.

So the 2 minutes it takes to install and set up adblock plus and TACO cost you effort and bandwidth?
Well, people see ads on tv, understanding that this is what makes the shows they see daily free or very cheap.
But when they pay money, for... I don't know what it's called these days, but I think sky?, then they don't want to see them make money by putting on ads in addition.
So people somehow transfer this to every other aspect of their life and say, if i pay for it, don't put an ad on it.

 

[FAST6191]

So the 2 minutes it takes to install and set up adblock plus and TACO cost you effort and bandwidth?

That is a start (though I have taken to ghostery rather than beef taco for most new installs for myself and others) but on top of that I also get to fiddle with my hosts file, micromanage adblock filters, spend enough time getting broken sites working with noscript, requestpolicy and Blitzableiter as well as fiddling with my own greasemonkey scripts or those of others and also doing my part to mess up metrics for advertisers. That is also just my computer and the internet- fiddling with PVRs and other such things to block adverts and figuring out how to work around overlays on TV shows (inpainting just about gets there) and managing client's computers to do something resembling that but not have the annoyance of noscript and requestpolicy in full on paranoid mode.

As for ads in addition the "either or" arrangement never struck me as a line worth taking; one can quite easily help out where the other might fall short or need to be expanded so it seems like basic business logic to me.

 

[gokujr1000]

Confirmed isn't the same as "coming this year." Halo 3 was certainly confirmed as coming when Halo 2 came out, but it still took a few years.

A short side-game (ODST) and a spinoff (Wars) count as "major releases" to you? Not sure where you're getting your definition. CoD gets a major release in one of its main series every year. Halo gets one every few years. There's a huge difference.

Well I think everyone probably has a different perspective on what a major release could be defined as. In your original post you said that you hope to God they don't go the CoD route with yearly releases but the thing is they've already been doing this. Like I said for quite some time there has been a yearly Halo release. You never once mentioned anything about a yearly major release which is a completely different thing. And to be clear with another thing I had completely forgotten about Halo Wars which still counts as a yearly release. Although I in no way consider Halo Wars to be major because in my opinion it is a prime example of what a spin-off could be considered as in the Halo series.

 

[JulietStMoon]

Well I think everyone probably has a different perspective on what a major release could be defined as. In your original post you said that you hope to God they don't go the CoD route with yearly releases but the thing is they've already been doing this. Like I said for quite some time there has been a yearly Halo release. You never once mentioned anything about a yearly major release which is a completely different thing. And to be clear with another thing I had completely forgotten about Halo Wars which still counts as a yearly release. Although I in no way consider Halo Wars to be major because in my opinion it is a prime example of what a spin-off could be considered as in the Halo series.

Um, yes I freaking DID mention a yearly major release in my original post. Perhaps you should read it again...

Why does everyone expect Halo 5? With the exception of the 2-year gap between Reach and 4, there's always been at least 3 years between "major" Halo games. I hope to God they don't go the CoD route with yearly releases...

Right in the sentence before mentioning CoD's yearly releases, I mentioned there being a gap between major Halo games. It's pretty obvious what I meant.

 

[chavosaur]

Alright y'all, the Reveal is tomorrow~
I'm pretty eager to see what Xbox is bringing to the table.
This will decide a lot of people's decisions between PS4 or Nextbox after all, including mine!