Skyrim too boring/easy for you?

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Because quantity = quality, right? And again, "Better than Oblivion" isn't saying much. "100 times 0" is still 0.

And rather than refine or tweak the skill, they took the easy way out it and axed it altogether. The concept isn't inherently flawed, and it's a nice touch that compliments the setting. It adds tension and requires the player to plan and spend their gold carefully - Skyrim is the poorer for losing it entirely.

Spells are a big part of combat, so yeah, of course you can. Beyond that, whether or not hardware limitations required it, the variety in customization suffers for this decision. I understand that sacrifices are necessary in games like these, but you need to make the choices that are best for your game. I'd argue that flexible customization in a game like this outweighs filler NPC counts. (And don't even get me started again on that PS3 port... That's another can of worms entirely.)

As for the finishers and ragdoll effects... can't both be ill-fitting and jarring?

As far as Oblivion goes... Skyrim takes some steps forward, but I'd argue it also takes just as many (if not more) steps backward. (I've heard tons of people argue that Morrowind is by far the better game out of all three, but I haven't played so I can't judge one way or the other. Just thought it was interesting.) I was hoping for the best, but sadly, the novelty wore off as the game dragged along. It just feels kind of hollow and unsubstantial; it's the cotton candy of open world RPGs.

Meh.
 
Each to their own I guess. I went in expecting the game to be the greatest game of this generation, and I'm of the mind that it continues to meet my expectations. I spent over four hundred hours in Oblivion. I've more than quadrupled that in Skyrim. So what if it took some steps back. The game more than made up for it with the leaps it made forward. Mark my words, the next ES game is going to be combining the awesomeness of the past games together and minimizing the bad. Skyrim is merely a stepping stone. Steps had to be taken to keep the game suitable for the consoles. It's those limitations that kept Skyrim from being the biggest and best ES game to everyone involved.

Morrowind is only viewed with such praise because of how awesome it was for its time. Nostalgia goggles make everything awesome.
 
Missing the point?
If you're enjoying your time, why does it matter if it's thousands of hours or just a few?

People enjoy crack... doesn't mean it's good


It doesn't require that many hours. I could have played 50 hours and been completely satisfied with my purchase. Doing something I love never gets old.
look at it through a third person's view. if someone saw u play the same game for sooo many hrs, what would they think.


anyway let's not continue

HEY I am not saying elder scrolls is a drug... please don't gust me away
 
No, I want to hear your reasoning. Is there any particular reason you're so against playing a game that long? Is there any particular reason I should care what someone else thinks about my gaming habits? Skyrim is not a drug. I don't need to play Skyrim, and I do other things with my time. If I've spent 1900 hours in Skyrim, I've played an average of three hours a day since 11/11/11. There are some days I'd have nothing better to do with my time than just sit down and have a Skyrim binge session. In between, I've managed to write several novels worth of words, spend time with friends, work, and go places. Are those also unnecessary time sinks? Is there something wrong with using my time as I see fit?

That's not even counting idle time where I leave Skyrim to reply to forum posts and plan my next playthrough.
 
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An analogy that doesn't actually work in that context.
Congrats, I guess?

lol it's a good game I agree, just that I don't like to play games for that long.

reminds me of ff12, I played 110 hrs and when my ps2 broke, I realised what amount of time I actually lost
 
lol it's a good game I agree, just that I don't like to play games for that long.

reminds me of ff12, I played 110 hrs and when my ps2 broke, I realised what amount of time I actually lost
You don't like it; god forbid anybody else does.
It isn't time lost if the time spent was spent enjoying yourself (unless you were supposed to use that time to work on something, or something.)
If you spent time playing when you feel you weren't enjoying yourself... There is only you to blame.
 
You don't like it; god forbid anybody else does.
It isn't time lost if the time spent was spent enjoying yourself (unless you were supposed to use that time to work on something, or something.)
If you spent time playing when you feel you weren't enjoying yourself... There is only you to blame.

I think you're taking this a little too personally. Honestly, I get where he's coming from.

In 1200 hours, one could play through the entirety of the Mass Effect series, all three Bioshock games, all five episodes of The Walking Dead, GTA IV, Saints Row 2, Saints Row The Third, Spec Ops: The Line, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Batman: Arkham City, All of the Orange Box (give or take TF2), Portal 2, and much, much, more, possibly even several times over in some cases.

For me, I'd rather spend my time with a wide variety of game experiences instead of spending it all in just one (Especially when that one is Skyrim, but I digress). That doesn't mean you can't spend as much time in one game as you want; it just means different people have different views on time management.
 
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I think you're taking this a little too personally. Honestly, I get where he's coming from.

In 1200 hours, one could play through the entirety of the Mass Effect series, all three Bioshock games, all five episodes of The Walking Dead, GTA IV, Saints Row 2, Saints Row The Third, Spec Ops: The Line, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Batman: Arkham City, All of the Orange Box (give or take TF2), Portal 2, and much, much, more, possibly even several times over in some cases.

For me, I'd rather spend my time with a wide variety of game experiences instead of spending it all in just one (Especially when that one is Skyrim, but I digress). That doesn't mean you can't spend as much time in one game as you want; it just means different people have different views on time management.
Exactly, for you, you'd rather do this.
That is why it is only time wasted if you didn't actually enjoy playing that one specific time a thousand of hours.
 
Exactly, for you, you'd rather do this.
But for somebody who enjoys their time playing the same game for over 1000 hours... Where's the problem?

Where has Shakir imposed this as a problem on others?

exactly my first point but 1000hrs? I am of the opinion that a game that requires so many hrs is excessive
I guess we shall have to agree to disagree

lol it's a good game I agree, just that I don't like to play games for that long.

His crack analogy is admittedly poor, but it's easy to understand what he's trying to get across. At no point is he saying you can't spend that much time in a game - just that he would prefer not to. For him, that's a waste of time.
 
Where has Shakir imposed this as a problem on others?
Indeed. He didn't use the words "it is a problem." So?
He's saying that playing it to enjoy your free time is okay, but when it becomes 1000+ hours, it's excessive.
If those 1000+ hours are used to enjoy your free time too... what's the difference?
 
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Indeed. He didn't use the words "it is a problem." So?
He's saying that playing it to enjoy your free time is okay, but when it becomes 1000+ hours, it's excessive.
If those 1000+ hours are used to enjoy your free time too... what's the difference?

Because that's 1000 hours that could spent on a wider variety of different game experiences, as I suggested before.

I think you're kind of contradicting yourself here. You make statements like, "You don't like it; god forbid anybody else does." and yet seem to be criticizing him because he values time with games differently. I don't see how either viewpoint is any less valid than the other; it's just personal preference.
 
Because that's 1000 hours that could spent on a wider variety of different game experiences, as I suggested before.

I think you're kind of contradicting yourself here. You make statements like, "You don't like it; god forbid anybody else does." and yet seem to be criticizing him because he values time with games differently. I don't see how either viewpoint is any less valid than the other; it's just personal preference.
I know it's personal preference, hence why I'm saying that if the person enjoys spending thousands of hours of free time on one game, it shouldn't matter.

He said that playing the same game for thousands of hours was excessive, but I believe it has become clear now that he was saying he personally didn't like spending all his free time on one game.
Can we just drop this now?
 
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enjoying v/s wasting

I've played runescape for 3 years and now I know... it wasn't worth it

playing it to enjoy it during the free time is not an issue but playing to achieve something for 1000+ hrs seems excessive

Because WOW has so many things to do that people keep coming back for.

At least Skyrim has variety
 

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