Mass Effect 1 is Shit

[Hadrian]

I thought we had blogs again, I could be wrong...

Attention whoring is done far better out of the blog section.

 

[narutofan777]

me3 is terrible...6/10 game.

 

[retKHAAAN]

me3 is terrible...6/10 game.

Read as:
5 minutes of a game disappointed me
Therefore
Game is terrible

 

[JulietStMoon]

Quick question Shadow... Is ME1 your first venture into the trilogy, or have you played 2 and 3 beforehand?

I haven't played any of them, but I'm just wondering since if you played 2 or 3 first, it would make sense that 1's physics seem "bad" compared to the more refined ones in later installments (which is why I refuse to play the sequel to a story-based game before the original, no matter how bad).

Just throwing that out there.

 

[Gahars]

me3 is terrible...6/10 game.

A 6/10 is terrible?

...Have you ever considered a career in games journalism?

 

[wolfmanz51]

The game (on 360 atleast)20%fucking awesome 80% horrific the every level loos the same "moon" stages and combat kills it. the other parts are awesome yet i felt the logs where not as well written as say metroid prime and mostly boring to read IMO this series is overrated, and fails at what the first game set out to do, have a branching "interactive" plot (the one thing the first game sort of succedes at), Its worse than one of those chose your own adventure books. aalso the game play does not live up to the "interactivity"

 

[wolfmanz51]

A 6/10 is terrible?

...Have you ever considered a career in games journalism?

6/10 id say 3/10 but I'm an asshole, and I'm drunk on fine California stone ale, why don't reviewers use the full scale of points. most games get between 5/10 (shouldn't this be reserved for average mediocre games) to 9.5/10 (better be of the hook if it gets this) that's just crap some games are 1/10(sucks my little ponys non existent cock)

 

[UltraHurricane]

6/10 id say 3/10 but I'm an asshole, and I'm drunk on fine California stone ale, why don't reviewers use the full scale of points. most games get between 5/10 (shouldn't this be reserved for average mediocre games) to 9.5/10 (better be of the hook if it gets this) that's just crap some games are 1/10(sucks my little ponys non existent cock)

i know, right? personally, i never liked the 1-10 point system for game reviews, i mean why should i care if a game gets a 3/10 over a 2/10, or a 4/10? if anything is below 6/10 it's just not worth playing, i'd much prefer a 5 point system or a simple recommend/not recommend

btw i think ME1 is still pretty good, hasn't aged well but it's not as terrible as some make it out to be

 

[wolfmanz51]

i know, right? personally, i never liked the 1-10 point system for game reviews, i mean why should i care if a game gets a 3/10 over a 2/10, or a 4/10? if anything is below 6/10 it's just not worth playing, i'd much prefer a 5 point system or a simple recommend/not recommend

btw i think ME1 is still pretty good, hasn't aged well but it's not as terrible as some make it out to be

Thats one thing i like about gonintendo they don't use any grading system, and just write the review.
Also to be fair as you say a lot of people did love it for that part of gaming perfection/innovation, it succeeds in places the other mass effect games don't dare go, I just hated the 36 barren planets/enviorments, the crappy frame rate (talking about the 360 launch version here) that felt like early 2000s pc games. Its one of the few 360 games I've played to the end, them being halo3, odst, GOW, GOW2, Fable 2, and lost odyssey.
I'm kinda biased against the Xbox 360 Itself, but not the games if that makes sense. The hardware due to, mass RROD seriously I know people who have had 3 (very common)-6 (highly uncommon) Xbox 360s before they switched to PS3 ( I know 50% of them bought new consoles too, makes me wonder about those sales figures, and the real install base of active users). I just hate Microsoft for various reasons, I think they are Cunts for advertising on a paid online platform when "literally" every other platform has free online services, back in 2003/4 on xbox it made sense, in 2013 WTF. Also who paid 100$ for a wifi adapter again WTF, or 300$ for a HDD any less than a TB, at that point the PC gamers who claim PC is teh best are right, it is the best Microsoft platform (being that Microsoft's windows platform dominates the PC game market).

In this day and age come on Microsoft, your like that cool asshole in high school who technically sucks ass even if your "popular".

 

[ShadowSoldier]

me3 is terrible...6/10 game.

Good job for posting on topic.

Quick question Shadow... Is ME1 your first venture into the trilogy, or have you played 2 and 3 beforehand?

I haven't played any of them, but I'm just wondering since if you played 2 or 3 first, it would make sense that 1's physics seem "bad" compared to the more refined ones in later installments (which is why I refuse to play the sequel to a story-based game before the original, no matter how bad).

Just throwing that out there.

I played ME1 first on the 360 when it first came out. But I don't really remember it being this bad. And I played through it like 4 times.

Thats one thing i like about gonintendo they don't use any grading system, and just write the review.
Also to be fair as you say a lot of people did love it for that part of gaming perfection/innovation, it succeeds in places the other mass effect games don't dare go, I just hated the 36 barren planets/enviorments, the crappy frame rate (talking about the 360 launch version here) that felt like early 2000s pc games. Its one of the few 360 games I've played to the end, them being halo3, odst, GOW, GOW2, Fable 2, and lost odyssey.
I'm kinda biased against the Xbox 360 Itself, but not the games if that makes sense. The hardware due to, mass RROD seriously I know people who have had 3 (very common)-6 (highly uncommon) Xbox 360s before they switched to PS3 ( I know 50% of them bought new consoles too, makes me wonder about those sales figures, and the real install base of active users). I just hate Microsoft for various reasons, I think they are Cunts for advertising on a paid online platform when "literally" every other platform has free online services, back in 2003/4 on xbox it made sense, in 2013 WTF. Also who paid 100$ for a wifi adapter again WTF, or 300$ for a HDD any less than a TB, at that point the PC gamers who claim PC is teh best are right, it is the best Microsoft platform (being that Microsoft's windows platform dominates the PC game market).

In this day and age come on Microsoft, your like that cool asshole in high school who technically sucks ass even if your "popular".

irrelevant.

 

[McHaggis]

See I just died again for the dumbest reason. It was a Geth Destroyer, came running towards me, meleed me, I'm like dying, so I run away to try and get some health, but the thing follows me and is literally right on my back and instant kill. That shit is dumb, it makes for a bad game.

Yeah, there's nothing worse than appropriately programmed AI. I prefer the games where enemies leave you alone and forget about you when you run away, because that's totally what I'd do if I were them.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Yeah, there's nothing worse than appropriately programmed AI. I prefer the games where enemies leave you alone and forget about you when you run away, because that's totally what I'd do if I were them.

Except it doesn't give you a chance to survive at all. You can't outrun it either. Appropriately programmed AI... sure, but at least give the player a chance to survive.

 

[JulietStMoon]

Except it doesn't give you a chance to survive at all. You can't outrun it either. Appropriately programmed AI... sure, but at least give the player a chance to survive.

I agree with this bit. Video games are theoretically designed to be beatable without dying (at least if you're extremely good). You shouldn't be put in situations where it's quite literally impossible to survive.

No idea if that's what's going on here, but it sounds like what Shadow is describing.

 

[McHaggis]

I agree with this bit. Video games are theoretically designed to be beatable without dying (at least if you're extremely good). You shouldn't be put in situations where it's quite literally impossible to survive.

No idea if that's what's going on here, but it sounds like what Shadow is describing.

There's clearly a way to survive, otherwise nobody would be able to get past that part of the game. Sometimes you just have to be more vigilant and see enemies sooner, or know when you're outmatched. Plus, it's not like it's perma-death if you fail.

Also, in my experience, you can't be extremely good at a well designed game the first time you play it. That means the game is too easy or you've chosen the wrong difficulty level.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

There's clearly a way to survive, otherwise nobody would be able to get past that part of the game. Sometimes you just have to be more vigilant and see enemies sooner, or know when you're outmatched. Plus, it's not like it's perma-death if you fail.

Also, in my experience, you can't be extremely good at a well designed game the first time you play it. That means the game is too easy or you've chosen the wrong difficulty level.

Except it isn't the first time I played.

 

[retKHAAAN]

Except it isn't the first time I played.

So then you're complaining that you're not as good at a game as you were 5 years ago?

You know what other game sucks? The Legend of Zelda. I mean, the combat is clunky and you can only move in four directions... I've completed it like a hundred times but I don't remember it being this terrible. It can't possibly have anything to do with the years of advances in gaming between then and now.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I don't get why we're arguing that the gameplay in Mass Effect 1 is bad. It is. But it's a great example of how gameplay doesn't make a game. Everything else is good.

Don't QQ over the bad gameplay here, it's over and done with and you got a fantastic story, great cast, and an awesome musical score.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

So then you're complaining that you're not as good at a game as you were 5 years ago?

You know what other game sucks? The Legend of Zelda. I mean, the combat is clunky and you can only move in four directions... I've completed it like a hundred times but I don't remember it being this terrible. It can't possibly have anything to do with the years of advances in gaming between then and now.

Too dumb for me to understand. Sorry pumpkin.

I don't get why we're arguing that the gameplay in Mass Effect 1 is bad. It is. But it's a great example of how gameplay doesn't make a game. Everything else is good.

Don't QQ over the bad gameplay here, it's over and done with and you got a fantastic story, great cast, and an awesome musical score.

But the gameplay plays a huuuuuge roll in the making of a good game. For example, say Vampire Rain had a great story and characters and shit (for example). Would it still be really good even though the gameplay itself is absolute garbage? No, it'd be a mediocre game...pretty much like ME1. I just see a lot of reviews and everything talking about it and how great it was, but nobody really talks about the broken gameplay.

 

[retKHAAAN]

Too dumb for me to understand. Sorry pumpkin.

But the gameplay plays a huuuuuge roll in the making of a good game. For example, say Vampire Rain had a great story and characters and shit (for example). Would it still be really good even though the gameplay itself is absolute garbage? No, it'd be a mediocre game...pretty much like ME1. I just see a lot of reviews and everything talking about it and how great it was, but nobody really talks about the broken gameplay.

Probably because in 2007 the gameplay wasn't considered "broken". I apologize if that's too dumb for you to understand, pumpkin.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Probably because in 2007 the gameplay wasn't considered "broken". I apologize if that's too dumb for you to understand, pumpkin.

I call bullshit on that one, considering games like Perfect Dark were hailed as being great, then a year later everybody was like "wow, this is shit"

Even Oblivion came out a year before the first mass effect and the combat was better.

Hell even reviews today talking about it and the ME Trilogy collection still give the game insanely high scores and don't talk about how bad the combat is.