When is pirating ok? (discussion)

[Zetta_x]

I hope you are not implying that pirating and stealing physical objects are the same thing. If you do, then Jesus Christ I'll pray for you and I'm an athiest

 

[jimskeet2002]

There is little correlation between budget and amount of content, especially when comparing movies and video games.

For example:
Bioshock - budget $15mil - Development 3 years - Sales 4 mil units over all platforms - Avg. Playtime 20-25 hours

Transformers 3 - budget $270mil - Development 20 months (includes pre-production) - Total Box Office $1,123,746,996 - DVD sales $44,783,000 (figures for Oct/Nov/Dec 2011 only and no bluray figures available) - Runtime 154 minutes

Movies have two main sources of income; ticket sales and dvd sales. Games have one source of income, take longer to produce (unless we're talking about CoD or Sports games), are produced in far fewer numbers, bring in waayyyyyyy less profit (unless we're talking about CoD) and give the buyer far more content with their purchase. 3 playthroughs of Bioshock = 26 viewings of Transformers 3. Production costs tied to dvd/bluray come from printing/packaging. Blockbusters have already made their millions (and sometimes billions) long before a dvd release. Low budget films have lower expectations.

Do you know why? Cause movie costs 8$ to watch or 15$ to buy DVD. Make games cost 8$ and i am pretty certain that they will have bigger profit than now.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

You see there is a problem here... The problem is that I CAN play them... So I will... and companies can still sell their games for 50$ and I still won't buy them and i still will play them. You see in 10 years i would have saved of like 15-20k... With these money I can buy a car you know. So I will. Oh and I will still have played the games Oh and companies can't do something about it. Do u know why? Cause piracy is a fact... like the fact that companies rip off the customers

Except what you're doing is considered illegal. So if you get caught playing their games, they can sue you so you aren't able to buy a car. Yes they rip you off, but they're doing it legally, you aren't. Again, piracy is not okay, if you aren't willing to pay for them, as I said some pirates on this site some of them do go out and buy the games, then you shouldn't be willing to play them. You seem to run a life where everything should just be given to you.

 

[jimskeet2002]

Except what you're doing is considered illegal. So if you get caught playing their games, they can sue you so you aren't able to buy a car. Yes they rip you off, but they're doing it legally, you aren't. Again, piracy is not okay, if you aren't willing to pay for them, as I said some pirates on this site some of them do go out and buy the games, then you shouldn't be willing to play them. You seem to run a life where everything should just be given to you.

Oh so it is fine if they legally rip us off but it is not fine if we illegally download their games hehe. Nice. Guess what. I will keep playing pirated games and none will sue me .
And i work hard for my income... The fact that i play overpriced games for free doesn't mean i ask everything to be given free to me

 

[Rydian]

Oh so it is fine if they legally rip us off but it is not fine if we illegally download their games hehe.

That generally IS the definition of legal versus illegal, yes.

You're learning a bit, keep it up!

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Oh so it is fine if they legally rip us off but it is not fine if we illegally download their games hehe. Nice. Guess what. I will keep playing pirated games and none will sue me .
And i work hard for my income... The fact that i play overpriced games for free doesn't mean i ask everything to be given free to me

Here's the thing though, they're not forcing you to pay for their game. If you don't want to pay for that game, then don't. Then you aren't getting ripped off. And how do you know none will sue you? Also who cares if you work hard for your income, you're not entitled to play video games. People like me we work hard for our income too and we still play games.

And how do you know you won't get caught?

 

[the_randomizer]

Oh so it is fine if they legally rip us off but it is not fine if we illegally download their games hehe. Nice. Guess what. I will keep playing pirated games and none will sue me .
And i work hard for my income... The fact that i play overpriced games for free doesn't mean i ask everything to be given free to me

I wouldn't go around bragging about it if I were you.

 

[jimskeet2002]

Ok then u can waste your money on overpriced games and i can keep mine for cars, beers, clothes, movies etc etc etc. Cya

 

[jimskeet2002]

Here's the thing though, they're not forcing you to pay for their game. If you don't want to pay for that game, then don't. Then you aren't getting ripped off. And how do you know none will sue you? Also who cares if you work hard for your income, you're not entitled to play video games. People like me we work hard for our income too and we still play games.

And how do you know you won't get caught?

Have you ever heard of anyone been arrested for downloading video games?

 

[Isle41]

I only pirated if:
-It's a game I'm not sure if I want (eg, Super Princess Peach, which I ended up buying), then after playing a few levels I'll decide whether to purchase or not
-If it's something I could never be able to get, or it's unlikey (think Gamecube Demo Discs, or limited edition X that never came in nonlimited edition form).
-If it's for an older console that I don't have and I'm interested in trying it (Say, the Atari/Commodore, not the NES)
-If it's some random rom hack and I'm interested in seeing what it is.
-If it's a Korean version of a game I already have (importing from Korea is a *****, but I'm starting to learn how and therefore this reason is dying for an excuse for me).

I can see piracy being a legitimate option if you live somewhere where the prices are high and your income is lower (eg, South America). If not................... buy the game!

 

[Valwin]

I hope you are not implying that pirating and stealing physical objects are the same thing. If you do, then Jesus Christ I'll pray for you and I'm an athiest

mmmm yes it is stealing is stealing just because something is digital makes it right ?

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Have you ever heard of anyone been arrested for downloading video games?

lmfao yes!

 

[jimskeet2002]

mmmm yes it is stealing is stealing just because something is digital makes it right ?

Whole America is stolen from Indians... I don't see someone giving it back to them Me paying taxes for corrupt governments to steal the money is stealing... None is giving them back to me... and the only thing you find to complain is about downloaded games? Are you serious???? Whole Europe is a victim of financial war ATM and so many families lose their homes and money to thieves (politicians) and you still brag about downloaded video games???? Really?

 

[Rydian]

Have you ever heard of anyone been arrested for downloading video games?

Are you a troll, or did you just start using the internet yesterday? People go to court and get sued for tons of money for piracy-related things all the time.

A member of GBAtemp, this very site, was sued by Nintendo AU for like over a million dollars for uploading New Super Mario Brothers for the Wii.
http://www.qj.net/qjnet/wii/new-super-mario-bros-wii-pirate-tells-his-story.html

 

[jimskeet2002]

lmfao yes!

too bad... Here in Greece haven't heard of it... They don't even arrest owners of sites that are purely forums for downloading copyrighted content and they will arrest me for downloading a game? stop being that funny.... really....

 

[Rydian]

mmmm yes it is stealing is stealing just because something is digital makes it right ?

Piracy is not theft. A minute of thought will show you that.

Theft is bad because when you steal something, you're taking it away from somebody. This is why theft is a criminal act, it harms somebody, and you go to criminal court for it.

Piracy, on the other hand, does not take away the original or take away anything from anybody at all. No damage is done, which is why it's NOT a criminal act, when you go to court for piracy you're getting sued, and it's a civil court as it's a rights issue.

 

[Valwin]

Whole America is stolen from Indians... I don't see someone giving it back to them Me paying taxes for corrupt governments to steal the money is stealing... None is giving them back to me... and the only thing you find to complain is about downloaded games? Are you serious???? Whole Europe is a victim of financial war ATM and so many families lose their homes and money to thieves (politicians) and you still brag about downloaded video games???? Really?

so because Americans still from indians makes it right to steal anything

i love how you people look for excuses why stealing is ok because HURR HURR BIG BAD government hurr yourop atm machines bla bla

if you love to steal games fine but a least say you are dont try to look for excuses

 

[jimskeet2002]

Poor Australians... My bro is a student there and can't stand the country...... They have super fast cars and don't even drive faster than 140kph.... LOL Then what the heck do you buy a mustang for??? to race with a skateboard????

 

[Valwin]

Piracy is not theft. A minute of thought will show you that.

Theft is bad because when you steal something, you're taking it away from somebody. This is why theft is a criminal act, it harms somebody, and you go to criminal court for it.

Piracy, on the other hand, does not take away the original or take away anything from anybody at all. No damage is done, which is why it's NOT a criminal act, when you go to court for piracy you're getting sued, and it's a civil court as it's a rights issue.

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your stealing the profit the developer put into the software

 

[jimskeet2002]

so because Americans still from indians makes it right to steal anything

i love how you people look for excuses why stealing is ok because HURR HURR BIG BAD government hurr yourop atm machines bla bla

if you love to steal games fine but a least say you are dont try to look for excuses

So the process you have something I click my left mouse button and enter, then we both have the same thing is stealing??? Nice