Connecticut School Shooting

[Anakir]

He shot his own mom too..

 

[nando]

that's just awful. how can people be so detached to end the lives of others?

 

[PyroSpark]

I can't imagine what the families feel like...

 

[Engert]

This happened not too far from where I live.
One of my co-workers friends lost his son.
Emigre, I don't think the issue here is guns as the media will try to spin it. It's just the culture, which unfortunately will not change. Because guns exist in the ghettos of Brazil where 10 year old kids are armed but they don't go ahead and commit mass-murders.

 

[kupo3000]

Come on dude.
Seriously? Video games? What if I told you violence was invented before video games?

Please, this is a serious matter.

AJ is just being sarcastic because Fox News are actually saying that nonsense at this very moment.

 

[BlueStar]

This happened not too far from where I live.
One of my co-workers friends lost his son.
Emigre, I don't think the issue here is guns as the media will try to spin it. It's just the culture, which unfortunately will not change. Because guns exist in the ghettos of Brazil where 10 year old kids are armed but they don't go ahead and commit mass-murders.

There are very tight restrictions on firearms in Brazil. Yes, there are illegal guns, but American school shootings are never carried out by gangbangers with illegal weapons (which are mostly used against other criminals). They're pretty much always legally owned guns, people with relatively clean criminal records and those without the criminal connections to obtain an illegal arsenal of these types. It's a bit of a cop out to try and blame culture in my opinion, a way of dodging an uncomfortable correlation.

 

[BORTZ]

Can we PLEASE keep the gun control discussion somewhere else.

 

[Engert]

It's a bit of a cop out to try and blame culture in my opinion, a way of dodging an uncomfortable correlation.

It's typical is U.S. to always blame someone or something about these issues. Kind of like Fox news is doing right now. Blaming it on videogames or other nonsense.
But it will take a lot more courage to accept things that are never accepted and never will.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Last time I checked our culture didn't exactly endorse killing 18 children and 9 other people.

Also "video games or other nonsense" are technically part of our culture.

 

[Engert]

It's not about endorsing McGuild. C'mon.
Nobody is saying that. It's too long of a discussion to have here which in the end will not change anything.

 

[Hyro-Sama]

Video games are not categorized under American Culture. It's universial.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

It's not about endorsing McGuild. C'mon.
Nobody is saying that. It's too long of a discussion to have here which in the end will not change anything.

You said "The reason he shot up this school was because of our culture" which is basically the same as "Our culture promotes school shooting."

Sorry for drawing a perfectly logical conclusion to your outrageous theory.

 

[Engert]

I am officially out of this discussion now because as usual you guys always miss the point here.

If you are interested to know why, then open another thread so we can talk there.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I am officially out of this discussion now.

Thank fucking god.

Now we can actually get back to properly leaving our condolences.

 

[Gahars]

And now after an awful, terrible tragedy, the scapegoating comes.

Can't we just focus on the victims before pointing fingers?

 

[dronesplitter]

Terrible tragedy. This stuff shouldn't happen but society has to encourage young people and promote a healthy outlook on life and the problems one faces in life. Whatever the shooter's problems were, he has ruined many lives and innocent families pay the price. Sad, just so sad but we all have to go on and do what it takes to prevent such instances in the future.

 

[WolfSpider]

Just very sad, I don't understand why someone would do this, especially at an elementary school.

 

[Gahars]

This is all too relevant again.

 

[Foxi4]

Personally I don't think it's a problem with guns as much as it is a problem with the society and its approach towards guns as well as the education children receive concerning firearms. Do note that there are gun enthusiasts all around the world and yet rarely do we hear about school shootings outside of the U.S. The frequency of such happenings is directly proportional to the way people percieve guns, clearly there's something wrong with the U.S approach towards them, as well as the channels of distribution. People often like to pass judgement and simply push the blame on guns themselves, but it's not the guns that kill people all by themselves - it's the person who pulls the trigger, and it's that person we should focus on.

 

[Deleted member 318366]

Sandy Hook Elementary School.

27 dead.
18 of those were children...

Why does this keep happening
This has been reported to be the deadliest of US school shootings. It happened in a little town of Newtown, Connecticut. The sweep is still going on, but it looks like they found the alleged shooter (dead) along with two handguns at the scene.

Source: LA Times

I was just about to post a thread about this but ahh you beat me to it, very sad indeed. i mean 20 children dead? good lord........

This makes you think should there be tougher gun laws?? there already tough as it is though.