Soulx threads...

[Sterling]

Okay, I'm just a little confused as to why whenever Soulx posts legitimate news its first post always reads along the lines of, "Dawww, I walked in here expecting Soulx and was not disappointed." I know that he has a bit skewed opinions, but at the same time many other users here treat Sony as our overlords. Very few members even think to post negative news about Sony because they're afraid of being branded as "Valwin", or "Soulx". It inhibits discussions when I and others legitimately have an opinion and real concerns on Sony's plummeting stock shares and many other things too. Why is it that members feel the need to just brush it all of because it's Soulx? It's no secret that Sony has been struggling lately, so why does he get all the flak for reporting it? Even the moderators have been lax in making sure the thread stays on topic, opting instead to lock it when it gets out of hand. Sure this bullshit was funny at first, but now that it's out of hand this much I usually find myself too late to post my concerns or opinions.

I'd really like it if people could remain mature and civil over such things. Don't like his posts, don't post. Maybe debate civilly but don't just walk in and post nonsense and walk out. That is fucking annoying and frankly I'm sick of seeing this recurring theme. >.<

 

[Deleted_171835]

But I agree with you, Sterling. It's silly that these established members are allowed to continue on with these petty personal attacks while the mods chastise me for it and lock perfectly valid threads (just look at the latest Sony thread). But hey, what can I do?

 

[KingVamp]

I have to admitted it is getting annoying. I though that thread was going pretty well.

That said, you could post other type of News. (The "right" way, so it wouldn't be shutdown.)

 

[The Catboy]

I agree with Sterling on this one. It has gotten pretty out of hand lately.

 

[gamefan5]

Oh didn't you know? Bashing against Sony or Nintendo is one of the 7 deadly sins in GBAtemp.
Problem is Soulx doesn't seem to know that. XD And he ends up getting spat at. XD

 

[chavosaur]

The whole point is the fact that 9/10 times, he doesnt post news, he posts Legit flame bait for all these temp fishys. We dont really need to know Vita sales (more valwin then him) or every single thing sony does wrong even if its a hair out of line. The guy does sometimes post some legit stuff that contributes but most other times its always about how bad sonys doing, how bad vitas doing, why sony is on the road to failure, etc. Its not needed here, otherwise we would do the same thing with Nintendo and Microsoft. But we dont, because SOME of us can set fanboyism aside for contribution and discussion.

 

[Zerosuit connor]

I see this too, I wonder how he feels?
Off Topic, Haven't been on the temp in like a month da fuq happened?

 

[chyyran]

Simple, people expect him to be bashing on Sony, so his perfectly legit threads get thrown into the same pool. Frankly, it's kinda stupid, but hey, welcome to The Internet.

 

[emigre]

I'd really like it if people could remain mature and civil over such things.

More chance of Hell freezing over than that happening.

 

[Sterling]

L

The whole point is the fact that 9/10 times, he doesnt post news, he posts Legit flame bait for all these temp fishys. We dont really need to know Vita sales (more valwin then him) or every single thing sony does wrong even if its a hair out of line. The guy does sometimes post some legit stuff that contributes but most other times its always about how bad sonys doing, how bad vitas doing, why sony is on the road to failure, etc. Its not needed here, otherwise we would do the same thing with Nintendo and Microsoft. But we dont, because SOME of us can set fanboyism aside for contribution and discussion.

Legitimate flame bait is one thing, but I see more legitimate news from him than that. You see it like that because that's what you've been led to expect. Sales numbers isn't a guaranteed tender either. Many members here can civilly debate the numbers, but more and more members just do thir best to deflect the concerns on the fact of, "Oh you Soulx."

 

[KingVamp]

If it was someone else, I wonder if the thread would still be open.

 

[gamefan5]

L
Legitimate flame bait is one thing, but I see more legitimate news from him than that. You see it like that because that's what you've been led to expect. Sales numbers isn't a guaranteed tender either. Many members here can civilly debate the numbers, but more and more members just do thir best to deflect the concerns on the fact of, "Oh you Soulx."

My friend it usually starts like that. Until either someone points out it's soulx making the thread or either an argument with the big three starts.

Big three being: Gahars, Soulx, and Guild.
Although Gahars is more level headed. So it's usually comes down to Guild vs Soulx. XD
Usually starts well until someone derails the entire thread. XD

 

[chavosaur]

I havent been led believe anything, its like i said, ive seen him post legit things that we can ccarry a conversation on. But its the WAY he posts them that gets him into flamewars. If he didnt inflict his personal sony hate bias into his news, and formatted in a manner so that it describes just the info, hed be fine. But now lately, it doesnt actually feel like hes trying to post lefit news anymore. Its almost like hes accepted his role as sonys hate mascot, and feeds threads to the masses to show hes a legit sony hater.
I can name you about one nintendo.sales thread to every TEN of his sony hate threads. And even less microsoft ones to his sony threads.

 

[BORTZ]

More chance of Hell freezing over than that happening.

Welcome to GABtemp.

 

[Sterling]

I havent been led believe anything, its like i said, ive seen him post legit things that we can ccarry a conversation on. But its the WAY he posts them that gets him into flamewars. If he didnt inflict his personal sony hate bias into his news, and formatted in a manner so that it describes just the info, hed be fine. But now lately, it doesnt actually feel like hes trying to post lefit news anymore. Its almost like hes accepted his role as sonys hate mascot, and feeds threads to the masses to show hes a legit sony hater.
I can name you about one nintendo.sales thread to every TEN of his sony hate threads. And even less microsoft ones to his sony threads.

So Guild and other people are exempt from this criticism? Many people do that. I see Guild hating on Minecraft and Nintendo regularly. Even his news posts reflect that. Stop making this complaint about sales. It's never been about that. Sales are not news, just a conversation topic. Those go in the General Gaming forum and promptly get out of hand and are locked. That's ridiculous too. For fucks sake people, just because it's a sales report posted by Soulx, doesn't automatically make it an instant flame wars. It takes a lighter to make it so, and that means you or any other members that feel like it's their duty to wreck Soulx's topics (that's not specifically directed at you BTW).

Gahars is a cool guy too. Gahars is also Guild's friend. If Guild would stop putting BS where it doesn't belong, Gahars would follow suit.

EDIT: Seriously. If sales were all it took to make a charbroiled thread, then they'd be banned. They're not though.

EDIT2: Another complaint is when a mod pops in and says, "Hi Soulx" instead of deleting the stupid posts and popping warns like a pez dispenser to get the topic back on track. There's something wrong with that. If someone had done something earlier, we wouldn't have to have the thread locked. No offense to the mods either. You're all human so I can see where it's easy to get caught up with the bandwagon.

 

[emigre]

To be honest with you, one reason why Vita threads go to shit is because the regularity of threads stating the Vita is doing poorly, it doesn't need to be stated over and over again, we get the message. And over time that becomes ludicrously nauseating and considering GBAtemp as a userbase has always struggled in discussing different console manufacturers, without developing into moronic playground arguments of childish retorts back when I joined in 2009. And let's not fuck around whilst the site isn't a dedicated Nintendo like GoNintendo, there is certainly a strong pro-Nintendo bias among its userbase. I'm not implying this is bad thing but let's acknowledge that. Back to the regular "VITAS AREN:T SELLING threads," it breeds a flippant and dismissing attitude towards the thread starter if he is starting these types of threads. And for the mods, getting this bullshit must piss them hence why threads get closed quickly and you can't blame for closing a potential headache because it must piss them off.

Regarding Soulx, I don't think he can view himself as a victim or as some kind of martyr figure. He has to acknowledge that he hasn't done himself any favours and has certainly constituted to the bullshit regarding a typical Vita thread. The way news is portrayed can have an effect on people and Soulx being a pretentious sod does (as well as Guild being an angry argumentative shit) play a role is the bullshitery. Perhaps more importantly, I think its obvious Soulx doesn't like Sony very much and likes Nintendo very much. The fact this bias is so transparent kills his credibility particularly with the crap with Valwin. That the key issue, Soulx has killed his own credibility. That's why his Sony threads gets closed if they have legitimate reason not to be. The other day, I joked I have more credibility than him. That's probably true, I can start some Sony threads and the threads will be just fine because I'm not seen as a fanboy.

EDIT: Sorry if my english is shit, its 3am here.

 

[gamefan5]

^Pretty much what emigre said.

 

[chavosaur]

But heres the biggest thing. Guild and Emigre and whoever else dont post entire topics devoted to this crap. They put it in a post or they put it in the eof where it belongs. When soulx keeps this crap in the eof, it can actually be funny. At times that is... but in the USN there needs to be news. Not flamebait.
and how are you any better with not devoting a bias toaward a member, when you clearly have a bias towards Guild? And im pretty sure Gahars is his own person, whose extremely intelligent andis competent enough to post without Guilds influence.

 

[Sterling]

To be honest with you, one reason why Vita threads go to shit is because the regularity of threads stating the Vita is doing poorly, it doesn't need to be stated over and over again, we get the message. And over time that becomes ludicrously nauseating and considering GBAtemp as a userbase has always struggled in discussing different console manufacturers, without developing into moronic playground arguments of childish retorts back when I joined in 2009. And let's not fuck around whilst the site isn't a dedicated Nintendo like GoNintendo, there is certainly a strong pro-Nintendo bias among its userbase. I'm not implying this is bad thing but let's acknowledge that. It breeds a flippant and dismissing attitude towards the thread starter if he is starting these types of threads. And for the mods, getting this bullshit most piss them hence why threads get closed quickly and you can't blame for closing a potential headache because it must piss them off.

Regarding Soulx, I don't think he can view himself as a victim or as some kind of martyr figure. He has to acknowledge that he hasn't done himself any favours and has certainly constituted to the bullshit regarding a typical Vita thread. The way news is portrayed can have an effect on people and Soulx being a pretentious sod does (as well as Guild being an angry argumentative shit) play a role is the bullshitery. Perhaps more importantly, I think its obvious Soulx doesn't like Sony very much and likes Nintendo very much. The fact this bias is so transparent kills his credibility particularly with the crap with Valwin. That the key issue, Soulx has killed his own credibility. That's why his Sony threads gets closed if they have legitimate reason not to be. The other day, I joked I have more credibility than him. That's probably true, I can start some Sony threads and the threads will be just fine because I'm not seen as a fanboy.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I understand that. However, I want to know if the Vita is doing bad, or continues to. I don't care enough to look for the news myself, and GBAtemp is one of the few places I check back regularly. It kills two birds with one stone, but at the same time the stone boomerangs and smacks me in the face. I don't get to toss my 2 cents in because the threads get locked after 10 (or more) off-topic posts. If the mods really hated it they'd be on it within the first signs of butthurt, not 20 some odd posts later. It has come to the point where I can tell people just got a bag of microwave popcorn and locked the thread whenever they finished it.

In short, I don't care if Soulx has lost his credibility. All he is doing is reporting an article and adding his opinion. That doesn't make his news posts untrustworthy.

EDIT: Oh, so now I'm not allowed to have my own opinion of something or someone? I have plenty of reason to dislike Guild, and so do many others. Just because I don't like him doesn't reduce the validity of my complaints.

EDIT2: I don't visit the EoF for anything other than the funny pictures topic. I tend to avoid the "hives of scum and villainy" if you catch my drift. So if a relevant news topic is there, I'm not going to see it.

EDIT3: Here's the kicker. No one else ever posts negative things about Sony. When someone rips Nintendo a new one, no one ever cries foul. When someone does it for Sony it's suddenly the end of the world. "Jump in the bunker, we got a no lifer insulting Sony, man your battle stations!"

 

[emigre]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I understand that. However, I want to know if the Vita is doing bad, or continues to. I don't care enough to look for the news myself, and GBAtemp is one of the few places I check back regularly. It kills two birds with one stone, but at the same time the stone boomerangs and smacks me in the face. I don't get to toss my 2 cents in because the threads get locked after 10 (or more) off-topic posts. If the mods really hated it they'd be on it within the first signs of butthurt, not 20 some odd posts later. It has come to the point where I can tell people just got a bag of microwave popcorn and locked the thread whenever they finished it.

In short, I don't care if Soulx has lost his credibility. All he is doing is reporting an article and adding his opinion. That doesn't make his news posts untrustworthy.

The loss of credibility plays a role in why his threads get locked. His news posts seem to have a tendency to be baity if anything. This isn't anything personal against him but he does play in attracting the negative attitude he receives.