Nintendo Should Go Mobile

[Foxi4]

I have a 30$ phone so that's not necessarily true, but I'm an exception Oh, and I didn't mean to be a grammar nazi, I thought you were the one being a grammar nazi because maybe I shouldn't have used the phrase "ramped up". As for future phone functions: I suppose. I just don't think it'll work with Nintendo's current online functionality. Let's see them increase the user-friendliness of their eShop first. I don't think having an App Store where it's pretty much impossible to find what you're looking for unless you know the exact name is a good idea. It also needs to be MUCH easier for devs to get their apps on there. Current Nintendo is just too restrictive to work with a smartphone handheld.

Which is why we're talking about a future, at least a generation or two away from now.

I want to see Nintendo on-top of their game again with the WiiU and the 3DS - know if they're prepared to enter the "mass market" rather than just cater to their current fanbase. (No offense to Nintendo fans, but that's what they've been doing throughout the last generation.)

 

[KingVamp]

They can have two separated shops. Specific hardware Android market + eshop. Nintendo getting a cut from both.
Requirements base on balancing of the markets. Ie. System resources

On the phone right now, so it hard to get my point across.

 

[Arras]

They can have two separated shops. Specific hardware Android market + eshop. Nintendo getting a cut from both.
Requirements base on balancing of the markets. Ie. System resources

On the phone right now, so it hard to get my point across.

Nintendo + Android will probably never happen. They seem to dislike using stuff made by other companies and Android is too easily hackable. If they make a smartphone it'll have a Nintendo OS with a Nintendo Store. (eShop or something else)

 

[duffmmann]

I honestly think the whole idea is terrible. I'd prefer one device for my hardcore games, and one for my phone and shovelware such as angry birds. Oh wait, i already have that. I couldn't be happier with the way things are now. Not everything needs to be crammed into my phone. How long before our phones have an extra compartment to store our change and packs of gum?

 

[Foxi4]

I honestly think the whole idea is terrible. I'd prefer one device for my hardcore games, and one for my phone and shovelware such as angry birds. Oh wait, i already have that. I couldn't be happier with the way things are now. Not everything needs to be crammed into my phone. How long before our phones have an extra compartment to store our change and packs of gum?

Fight progress all you like - not so long ago, people required separate devices for GPS navigation, multimedia purposes, phone connectivity and internet connectivity - portable video game systems are the next to fall prey to miniaturisation and merger. A mobile device should by proxy do everything you want it to do as far as "digital" tasks on-the-go are concerned, and gaming is one of them. Xperia Play showed that "proper" gaming on the go is entirely possible, a good few of the games available on the platform are quite impressive, even though the "technology" is not quite "there" yet and it's still more of a smartphone than it is a handheld console.

 

[The Catboy]

This sounds like a horrible idea and getting Apple involved sounds even worse. Apple would charge an arm and leg for it.

 

[duffmmann]

I honestly think the whole idea is terrible. I'd prefer one device for my hardcore games, and one for my phone and shovelware such as angry birds. Oh wait, i already have that. I couldn't be happier with the way things are now. Not everything needs to be crammed into my phone. How long before our phones have an extra compartment to store our change and packs of gum?

Fight progress all you like - not so long ago, people required separate devices for GPS navigation, multimedia purposes, phone connectivity and internet connectivity - portable video game systems are the next to fall prey to miniaturisation and merger. A mobile device should by proxy do everything you want it to do as far as "digital" tasks on-the-go are concerned, and gaming is one of them. Xperia Play showed that "proper" gaming on the go is entirely possible, a good few of the games available on the platform are quite impressive, even though the "technology" is not quite "there" yet and it's still more of a smartphone than it is a handheld console.

I'm not an idiot, I know whats going on. But at a certain point it needs to stop. I don't want to be in the middle of a game at an epic moment only for the experience to pull me out because I'm getting a call that may or may not be important. As it is, I hate listening to music and then for it to be interupted with a little bloop or a ringtone because I got a new email or a phone call is coming in.

I stand by my stance, keep hardcore gaming seperate from smartphones, or at the very least don't stop making strictly hardcore gaming portables. I think Nintendo is smart enough not to jump that line anytime soon, I don't see their next handheld being a phone. If however Nintendo tried to do a three tier gaming structure again, I guess I wouldn't be incredibly surprised by that. But I still think its just a terrible idea, the only people actually clamoring for Nintendo to make games for their phones, are mostly the apple drones, you know who I'm talking about. And its probably because they paid such a ridiculous amount for their smartphone that they can't justify another purchase for a handheld. If they went the Galaxy way, they wouldn't have that problem I'm sure.

 

[Foxi4]

I'm not an idiot, I know whats going on. But at a certain point it needs to stop. I don't want to be in the middle of a game at an epic moment only for the experience to pull me out because I'm getting a call that may or may not be important.

Disable the phone function then. Besides, phone calls on your *separate* phone device are already disrupting that - the difference is that you don't have to search for your phone - you're holding it.

As it is, I hate listening to music and then for it to be interupted with a little bloop or a ringtone because I got a new email or a phone call is coming in.

Turn off the phone function or mute the ringtone.

 

[duffmmann]

I'm not an idiot, I know whats going on. But at a certain point it needs to stop. I don't want to be in the middle of a game at an epic moment only for the experience to pull me out because I'm getting a call that may or may not be important.

Disable the phone function then. Besides, phone calls on your *separate* phone device are already disrupting that - the difference is that you don't have to search for your phone - you're holding it.

As it is, I hate listening to music and then for it to be interupted with a little bloop or a ringtone because I got a new email or a phone call is coming in.

Turn off the phone function or mute the ringtone.

Wow, you're just not getting it. I like to be able to simply pause the game or look away for a moment and look at my phone, so I still want the alert of a phone call coming in, if its important I'll take it, if its not, I'll get right back into the game. Thats the kind of speed that still can't be met by smartphones. Also, how the hell am I searching for my phone? Its always in my pocket. takes less than a quarter of a second to pull it out and look at it. Music and cutscenes can still play flawlessly this way, and there is so little of an interuption it can't be matched (or at least hasn't been yet, and don't see it happening anytime soon).

 

[The Catboy]

I'm not an idiot, I know whats going on. But at a certain point it needs to stop. I don't want to be in the middle of a game at an epic moment only for the experience to pull me out because I'm getting a call that may or may not be important.

Disable the phone function then. Besides, phone calls on your *separate* phone device are already disrupting that - the difference is that you don't have to search for your phone - you're holding it.

As it is, I hate listening to music and then for it to be interupted with a little bloop or a ringtone because I got a new email or a phone call is coming in.

Turn off the phone function or mute the ringtone.

Going to be honest
Hardcore gamimg >> smartphone

I bought my smartphone for some minor gaming when I am waiting for something or to surf the internet on the go. I bought my DS to play video games on. I would much rather keep it that way. Smartphones just aren't very fun to game on.

 

[Foxi4]

I bought my smartphone for some minor gaming when I am waiting for something or to surf the internet on the go. I bought my DS to play video games on. I would much rather keep it that way. Smartphones just aren't very fun to game on.

I said it once in the thread and I'll say it again - nothing about the form-factor of the system would change - it would merely have one more function in the menu. It doesn't require a re-design and it wouldn't be like your average smartphone. Just another function in the menu, really.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I say no. Not everything needs to be made into a phone. Hell, with Nintendo products now, you're already barely getting any hours, can you imagine how little hours you'd get on a phone?

 

[Foxi4]

Wow, you're just not getting it. I like to be able to simply pause the game or look away for a moment and look at my phone, so I still want the alert of a phone call coming in, if its important I'll take it, if its not, I'll get right back into the game. Thats the kind of speed that still can't be met by smartphones. Also, how the hell am I searching for my phone? Its always in my pocket. takes less than a quarter of a second to pull it out and look at it. Music and cutscenes can still play flawlessly this way, and there is so little of an interuption it can't be matched (or at least hasn't been yet, and don't see it happening anytime soon).

What *if* all you get is a tiny pop-up on the bottom of the screen that tells you about an incoming call with two buttons on its side to accept or decline? Does that make you happy?

Those are not huge hurdles to jump over, it just hasn't been done yet.

 

[The Catboy]

I bought my smartphone for some minor gaming when I am waiting for something or to surf the internet on the go. I bought my DS to play video games on. I would much rather keep it that way. Smartphones just aren't very fun to game on.

I said it once in the thread and I'll say it again - nothing about the form-factor of the system would change - it would merely have one more function in the menu. It doesn't require a re-design and it wouldn't be like your average smartphone. Just another function in the menu, really.

And why would I want that?

 

[Foxi4]

I say no. Not everything needs to be made into a phone. Hell, with Nintendo products now, you're already barely getting any hours, can you imagine how little hours you'd get on a phone?

The batteries are the only barrier standing in the way of the merger, yes.

And why would I want that?

To carry just one device that does it all for you, it's quite simple, really. That, and it extends the functionality of the console with extra connectivity modes.

 

[duffmmann]

Wow, you're just not getting it. I like to be able to simply pause the game or look away for a moment and look at my phone, so I still want the alert of a phone call coming in, if its important I'll take it, if its not, I'll get right back into the game. Thats the kind of speed that still can't be met by smartphones. Also, how the hell am I searching for my phone? Its always in my pocket. takes less than a quarter of a second to pull it out and look at it. Music and cutscenes can still play flawlessly this way, and there is so little of an interuption it can't be matched (or at least hasn't been yet, and don't see it happening anytime soon).

What *if* all you get is a tiny pop-up on the bottom of the screen that tells you about an incoming call with two buttons on its side to accept or decline? Does that make you happy?

Those are not huge hurdles to jump over, it just hasn't been done yet.

Still don't like the idea if I'm in a cutscene I don't want it interupted with shit. And that includes the tiniest of pop-ups. Thats my honest opinion.

And before you say "well when you look at and for your vibrating phone, you're disrupting the viewing process already." You're wrong, its not hard for me to pull out my phone while still watching a cutscene on my 3DS. It does not require me to look away from my 3DS to grab my phone out of my pocket, or to look at the name of who's calling (simply hold it up right next to the action on screen).

plus I can't imagine if my phone was the size of a 3DS XL, that would be horrible for making and taking calls.

 

[The Catboy]

And why would I want that?

To carry just one device that does it all for you, it's quite simple, really. That, and it extends the functionality of the console with extra connectivity modes.

I never had a problem before carrying more than one device on me, because personally I see them as two separate devices with two separate functions.
Quite honestly I hate gaming on a smartphone, I find it awkward and annoying. I prefer to keep gaming and smartphones separate.

 

[Foxi4]

Still don't like the idea if I'm in a cutscene I don't want it interupted with shit. And that includes the tiniest of pop-ups. Thats my honest opinion.

And yet nobody minds the Achievement Unlocked pop-up.

plus I can't imagine if my phone was the size of a 3DS XL, that would be horrible for making and taking calls.

The XL's are *optional* builds of the system, but even then, I say Galaxy Note.

I'm not forcing anyone to accept my point of view here, I'm merely trying to say that it's something to think about for the future. The merger of those devices is unavoidable whether we like it or not, the days of dedicated gaming are over, not just on handheld consoles but on home consoles as well. Since the PS2 times, home consoles are becoming more and more of a media hub for the whole house - they no longer offer just gaming. Netflix-like services, internet browsing, message boards and chat connectivity, music, digital store - you can find it all there, and this is the future of handhelds as well.

 

[duffmmann]

Still don't like the idea if I'm in a cutscene I don't want it interupted with shit. And that includes the tiniest of pop-ups. Thats my honest opinion.

And yet nobody minds the Achievement Unlocked pop-up.

plus I can't imagine if my phone was the size of a 3DS XL, that would be horrible for making and taking calls.

The XL's are *optional* builds of the system, but even then, I say Galaxy Note.

I'm not forcing anyone to accept my point of view here, I'm merely trying to say that it's something to think about for the future. The merger of those devices is unavoidable whether we like it or not, the days of dedicated gaming are over, not just on handheld consoles but on home consoles as well. Since the PS2 times, home consoles are becoming more and more of a media hub for the whole house - they no longer offer just gaming. Netflix-like services, internet browsing, message boards and chat connectivity, music, digital store - you can find it all there, and this is the future of handhelds as well.

I hate achievements, always have and always will, never ever understood the point of them, and yes I've always thought they were annoying when it pops up to tell you that you "accomplished" something (in reality nothing) that they programmed in the game. And I'd rather have the XL version, you get a bigger gaming screen and more battery life and its still portable. Galaxy notes are pretty awesome for everything but making and taking calls, you look like a fool when you do.

I'm not forcing you to accept my point of view either, but surely you must understand where I'm coming from. I don't think the days of dedicated gaming are over at all, the fact that Nintendo has time and time again been told to move to mobile and always says fuck no is a great indication that smartphones will stick with the silly shovelware shit, and the hardcore games will come to the 3DS and maybe one day the Vita.

plus putting a controller like that in a phone just doesn't work, the PSPGo and the Sony PS phone (whatever that thing was called) was proof positive of this, it felt way too awkward, and you can't simply control with just a touch screen, plus I really do want to keep using 2 screens as well, I just don't see a way where all of the things I want from my portable experience can be crammed in a phone.

But, like I said, i can see Nintendo trying to do a 3 tier thing where they release a phone that only plays casual games for the most part and has a non 3D single screen. That wouldn't completely surprise me, but don't see anything happening beyond that.

 

[The Catboy]

Still don't like the idea if I'm in a cutscene I don't want it interupted with shit. And that includes the tiniest of pop-ups. Thats my honest opinion.

And yet nobody minds the Achievement Unlocked pop-up.

Don't speak on behalf of everyone. Any unnecessary pop-ups during gaming is annoying, Achievements being on the top of the list.