Hacking PS Vita CFW for PSP emulation ETA

[larazonclara]

I don't think you understood my point. My issue isn't with buying or affording games. It's rebuying games and/or selling them off towards digital licenses.

The exchange program was scrapped PRIOR to launch. You buying a Vita could only happen once this had been readily established...

Then I missed that memo...I read on many gaming sites that this was going to happen and that, along with remote play, is what really made me drop the money to preorder. Is my own ignorance involved? Yes...but I don't think this matters in the end, does it?

 

[Foxi4]

with the price of vita memory cards beyond extortinate...

If you're going to follow this train of thought then with the same preath you have to say "and the incredibly affordable price for the system" - the only reason why Vita memory cards are so expensive is to make up for the losses made on the system sales. It has the same price as the 3DS on launch and it easily packs twice the horesepower, if not more.

Then I missed that memo...I read on many gaming sites that this was going to happen and that, along with remote play, is what really made me drop the money to preorder. Is my own ignorance involved? Yes...but I don't think this matters in the end, does it?

Sony does have a UMD transfer plan, but in Japan only and not for all titles. Yes, you missed the memo.

 

[xist]

I have the game on UMD and I don't feel compelled to re-purchase it simply to play it on a different platform, but then again, that's just my personal opinion.

I agree that no-one should be compelled to re-purchase games, but equally there's no entitlement to play UMD's you've bought on a machine that doesn't support UMD's. Wishing for a CFW for that purpose alone is just as bad as wanting it for anything else...

 

[larazonclara]

I have the game on UMD and I don't feel compelled to re-purchase it simply to play it on a different platform, but then again, that's just my personal opinion.

I agree that no-one should be compelled to re-purchase games, but equally there's no entitlement to play UMD's you've bought on a machine that doesn't support UMD's. Wishing for a CFW for that purpose alone is just as bad as wanting it for anything else...

Who is talking about entitlement? I just simply am stating *I* refuse to do that, and want CFW for that purpose alone. I didn't say it was good or bad, and you are more than entitled to your opinion, as am I.

 

[jalaneme]

Then I missed that memo...I read on many gaming sites that this was going to happen and that, along with remote play, is what really made me drop the money to preorder. Is my own ignorance involved? Yes...but I don't think this matters in the end, does it?

you fell for the hype and excitement, if you have ever experienced the ps3 scene then you should know how slow it can be, yes VHBL is a start but with sony firmware updates patching it everytime is it really worth it? newer handhelds always will have this problem with firmware updates and it's just not worth it in the long run, imo stick to older stuff which you have more control over instead of sony controlling what you want to do with your console.

 

[Foxi4]

I have the game on UMD and I don't feel compelled to re-purchase it simply to play it on a different platform, but then again, that's just my personal opinion.

I agree that no-one should be compelled to re-purchase games, but equally there's no entitlement to play UMD's you've bought on a machine that doesn't support UMD's. Wishing for a CFW for that purpose alone is just as bad as wanting it for anything else...

I agree. The Vita is a Vita - there's nothing bounding Sony to having to include the drive in each and every subsequent PSP successor - it's a bad format that needs to die and the PSP Go already showed us that they are walking away from the UMD, so nobody should be particularily suprised that the Vita trades off UMD's for longer battery life. What I would really want is a method of somehow registering the games you own on UMD to transfer them into a PSN form, for example by connecting your PSP and your Vita to your PC via USB and leaving the rest to the Vita's file manager to sort out. There's no better way to check if a UMD is legitimate than to actually check the UMD, and I don't see how this would be bothersome to program.

 

[xist]

Who is talking about entitlement? I just simply am stating *I* refuse to do that, and want CFW for that purpose alone. I didn't say it was good or bad, and you are more than entitled to your opinion, as am I.

I was replying to Foxi...but if you wish me to address that point to you, then you assumed you were entitled to some form of digital transfer to a new system of PSP games you'd bought on UMD. It seems you've refused to re-buy games that you'd wish to play on the Vita because you believe that there should be some form of interchangeability between systems.

What I would really want is a method of somehow registering the games you own on UMD to transfer them into a PSN form, for example by connecting your PSP and your Vita to your PC via USB and leaving the rest to the Vita's file manager to sort out. There's no better way to check if a UMD is legitimate than to actually check the UMD, and I don't see how this would be bothersome to program.

I think with the prevalence of the second hand market it would cause a massive blackhole of income for Sony which they desperately need to avoid given their financial state.

 

[jalaneme]

I agree that no-one should be compelled to re-purchase games, but equally there's no entitlement to play UMD's you've bought on a machine that doesn't support UMD's. Wishing for a CFW for that purpose alone is just as bad as wanting it for anything else...

so it's ok for corporate companies to lock out features so you have to rebuy everything again that you already paid for putting you out of pocket? ps3 does it with hd collections, and the new wii u will be locking out gc compatibility, please save your rambling on why you feel justified to be ripped off, i am not interested.

 

[Foxi4]

I think with the prevalence of the second hand market it would cause a massive blackhole of income for Sony which they desperately need to avoid given their financial state.

Oh, surely, but in my opinion, you can't screw over legitimate customers just because of the ones who like to go around the boundries in the grey zone. The second-hand market is nothing new and by now Sony should've accepted the fact that it's there and it's there to stay. But hey! It's their handheld and their rules.

so it's ok for corporate companies to lock out features so you have to rebuy everything again that you already paid for putting you out of pocket? ps3 does it with hd collections, and the new wii u will be locking out gc compatibility, please save your rambling on why you feel justified to be ripped off, i am not interested.

Don't bring corporate or locking features out into this - the Vita is not compatible with UMD and Sony is not obliged to give you a transfer method. It's only compatible with PSN-Downloaded titles and it's only a matter of their good will or lack of thereof to give you the option to transfer. PSP games are for the PSP - it's simple as that.

 

[larazonclara]

Who is talking about entitlement? I just simply am stating *I* refuse to do that, and want CFW for that purpose alone. I didn't say it was good or bad, and you are more than entitled to your opinion, as am I.

I was replying to Foxi...but if you wish me to address that point to you, then you assumed you were entitled to some form of digital transfer to a new system of PSP games you'd bought on UMD. It seems you've refused to re-buy games that you'd wish to play on the Vita because you believe that there should be some form of interchangeability between systems.

I didn't assume in the slightest. I read published articles on a program designed to help people like me who have a (relatively) large library of UMDs. I do believe there should be a program to allow interchangibility but I have never argued that in this thread. I have simply been explaining why I want CFW.

 

[xist]

so it's ok for corporate companies to lock out features so you have to rebuy everything again that you already paid for putting you out of pocket? ps3 does it with hd collections, and the new wii u will be locking out gc compatibility, please save your rambling on why you feel justified to be ripped off, i am not interested.

You can always identify a cast iron argument when someone refuses to acknowledge any alternative point of view. Is the Vita a PSP? No. Should it play UMD's? Nope. Are Sony obligated to ensure it does play them? Nope. Besides no-one would rebuy everything.....and the HD Collections are a different argument altogether.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

I agree that no-one should be compelled to re-purchase games, but equally there's no entitlement to play UMD's you've bought on a machine that doesn't support UMD's. Wishing for a CFW for that purpose alone is just as bad as wanting it for anything else...

so it's ok for corporate companies to lock out features so you have to rebuy everything again that you already paid for putting you out of pocket? ps3 does it with hd collections, and the new wii u will be locking out gc compatibility, please save your rambling on why you feel justified to be ripped off, i am not interested.

Backwards compatibility is not a right, no matter how much you want it to be. The Vita is not and will never be backwards compatible with UMDs. No amount of bitching, complaining, wishing or hoping will magically make a UMD drive appear on the current Vita.

 

[hankchill]

It seems that it was ill considered buying a Vita if you didn't want to do anything but play PSP games...

This.

Not a single PSP game on my Vita. I'd rather use the Vita's precious memory for Vita titles.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

It seems that it was ill considered buying a Vita if you didn't want to do anything but play PSP games...

This.

Not a single PSP game on my Vita. I'd rather use the Vita's precious memory for Vita titles.

There are a precious few PSP games that I don't mind paying for, such as Patchwork Heroes and Persona 3 Portable.

 

[Hells Malice]

xist, you forgot something. Some people dont have money to buy the games. Some people refused to pay the games and want to download it for free. Some people are too poor to buy the games and only have the consoles/portables to download the free games. Thanks to who ? The hackers.. They are the reason that people want to play for free. Blaming the hackers, not people. Without the hackers, people will have to buy the games and the companies will have more profits.

"It's not my fault i'm a crack whore, blame the dealer who sold me the crack."
Yeah your logic is flawless.

 

[larazonclara]

It seems that it was ill considered buying a Vita if you didn't want to do anything but play PSP games...

This.

Not a single PSP game on my Vita. I'd rather use the Vita's precious memory for Vita titles.

Do you mind telling me what Vita titles you're playing?

 

[zygie]

(Referring to Foxi's post) Not just hardware sales, but software, to some degree. Some people also purchase the games after "trying" them, and who knows, they might recommend the game to their friends and they end up buying it too. Taking out piracy =! more profit, since these dirty, dirty pirates wouldn't have bought the game anyway. For all it's worth I agree with Foxi4 about hackers are not the same as the people who use these exploits for illegal means. For most of these people, hacking is a challenge and their hobby, it is not in their intentions to leave meat out for vultures to come and use these exploits for piracy.

The Go didn't have an effective and widespread UMD to digital format and that was the same game library, so if you think about it logically, why would the Vita? Because Sony has learned their lesson? I don't think so.

Right now, I haven't bought a Vita. I would have bought it at launch if I wanted high chances of it being hackable, but I don't aim to pirate on it. Speculating about a release on a loader when the person speculating himself isn't even following the scene or trying it himself is pointless, and would only aim to piss off people. If this PSP loader does come, I would use it, I admit, but I won't complain about there not being one and would just play on my PSP for the time being.

Or maybe be less of a cheapskate and get a Vita and buy the PSP games I really like. Maybe.

Edit: this thread moves fast. Lol.

 

[hankchill]

It seems that it was ill considered buying a Vita if you didn't want to do anything but play PSP games...

This.

Not a single PSP game on my Vita. I'd rather use the Vita's precious memory for Vita titles.

Do you mind telling me what Vita titles you're playing?

Currently playing through Metal Gear Solid HD Collection. I've got a page full of other games for it too such as Rayman Origins, Plants vs Zombies, WipeOut 2048, ModNation Racers, Unit 13 (plus a few more). Lots to keep me busy I'm debating getting Gravity Rush right now since I've got lots to play though at the moment, but GR looks so fun

I think I may install 1 PSP game though; Rock Band Unplugged. Got absolutely hooked on it and can still have fun with it.

EDIT: Back on topic: I don't think anyone should ask for any ETA for a custom firmware. If it happens, it happens. Remember: You didn't buy the Vita with the intention to run a custom firmware on it.

 

[Langin]

Hey man,

I ma from the whine/rant post... Ehm I hope you don't mind this post, but I would like to apologize myself for my childish behavior and I hope you can forgive. I've had my reasons to rant, because 2 friends asked me 20 times yesterday if the PS Vita was hacked yet and when it would happen I guess your topic was the limit for me and I was like *FUUUUUUUUU* you know xD

But again let's be friends and I will not make this happen ever again!

 

[clegion]

"I cannot PIRATEEEEEEE, WHYYYYYY" , so basically the only reason you buy a console is to play pirated game on it ? and then that console is basically obsolete if you can't pirate ?