Bioware adding content to fix Mass Effect 3 ending

[leic7]

Please, put the ending you chose in a spoiler. I'd like to know what ending you thought was the most "pro-paragon".

...fine. I chose the synthesis option in paragon.

 

[Phoenix Goddess]

I can't believe this topic is still going at all. This is ridiculous. Just because a handful of people don't like it, it's suddenly the big topic of today?

I don't see why it shouldn't. It's a forum on video games. There aren't a million threads made on the temp about the game. It also happens to be a thread on a popular new video game, so why shouldn't it became a big topic?

 

[Veho]

@[member='leic7'] , the text is still visible on the dark forum theme. Spoiler it.

Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities;
Truth isn't.

~Mark Twain

(In other words, Fiction has to make sense)

I would present a counterpoint, if I may:

 

[Sora de Eclaune]

Please, put the ending you chose in a spoiler. I'd like to know what ending you thought was the most "pro-paragon".

...fine. I chose the *SNIP* option in paragon.

Woohoo! Spoilers!

 

[CrimzonEyed]

I think the biggest problem with mass effect is that only 1/3 or 2/3 of the original story writer was left. Not sure on the numbers...

But imagine 10 people writing a book.

In the 2th book, 3 of the original people are fired and replaced by 5 new people.

In the 3rd book, 2 more from original book are fired and replaced by 3-4 others

Result: 5 people left from the original book, and 8-9 new people with other ideas = a mess xD

I loved all 3 games, even the ending in the 3rd one.

My biggest issue is that I want to know what happends after:

Spoiler

the normandy crash on the jungle planet and how all races that are stuck in the "Sol" system are going to get back and a lot of other questions I want to know about :/

Oh and I went for the "synthesis" ending

 

[Qtis]

I think the biggest problem with mass effect is that only 1/3 or 2/3 of the original story writer was left. Not sure on the numbers...

Actually the third game was the only one with Drew Karpyshyn not being part of the writing team. The second game was done by two people, of which one was Karpyshyn

Not sure how that adds up, but the books between the games were all written by Drew. After his declaration of not writing anything for the gaming industry there seems to be other writers present too, but so far I haven't read a single book by the new writers..

 

[Sterling]

Please, put the ending you chose in a spoiler. I'd like to know what ending you thought was the most "pro-paragon".

Spoiler

...fine. I chose the synthesis option in paragon.

Spoiler

Why did you think that was the most paragon choice? That's what Saren was trying to accomplish in the first Mass Effect, and look where that got him.

 

[Gahars]

Why are people so worried about spoilers? It's a discussion about the ending of the game; spoilers are pretty much inherent. If you don't want to be spoiled, then just avoid the thread before playing the game. Problem solved.

@[member='Sterling']

No, Saren's goal (or at least, rationalization) was to make the organics appear useful and helpful to the Reapers in the hopes that they would be spared instead. The indoctrination clouded his judgement there, of course.

Plus, you have to remember that while Saren was the villain, his motivation and ultimate goals were admirable; the problem came with the methods he employed to reach them. That complexity was what made him a great antagonist for the game.

 

[Veho]

As a somewhat unexpected consequence to the recent furor over Mass Effect 3's ending, an entirely different, unaffiliated game has rewritten its own final moments while BioWare considers changing its own. PC and iOS tactical shooter Frozen Synapse may have attracted much of its fan-base for its acclaimed multiplayer mode, but the game also boasts a robust single-player experience that, up until recently, didn't conclude with a troll-faced pony, a top-hat-wearing t-rex, nor a snarky yet, perhaps, important message for gamers.

"This is the ending to a computer game," the new final cut scene reads beneath a hand-drawn picture of the aforementioned animal duo. "We don't care if you like it ... but at least the pony and dinosaur are happy." As the screen fades to black, the message continues in a small, but stark white font. "We go through a lot of things in life," it reads. "Not all of them are under our control. But that's ok because it's all water under the bridge, right? We can't expect the outcome of our stories to conform to our own perceptions."

The game then shifts gears, and informs its community that they are both "moist and dolphin-proof."

Source and video.

 

[clonesniper666]

Not just me, I know tons of people who didn't mind it. People just have to find something to bitch and whine about, there can never be just one thing that's good. Bioware shouldn't have to change shit, I hope they charge $10 for it so then people can bitch about that. I mean, hey! They're the ones who fucking wanted it!

I too have no problem with the ending. Sadly me and a friend were talking about how if Bioware does release a new ending that they should just screw over all the whiny brats by killing everyone off and then even charge $15 for it.

 

[Zarcon]

Spoiler

Synthesis is a pretty terrible ending thematically. You spend the entire series working for cooperation. Finding ways to work together regardless of differences in beliefs or race. Even Saren in his twisted indoctrinated state was aiming for co-existence. Synthesis basically gives the finger to that and says assimilation is the best. Never mind that you are finally able to work out peace with the synthetic Geth race through hard work. Just take the easy way out.

 

[Deleted member 473940]

God people are bitching about that..
how do people play games like Fallout 3 then :/

I dont know if I sound precise enough, but if a happy end and happy environment is what they are looking for.. tough luck! Bioware WANTED to end it this way, live it with.

Anyway, good to see them respond though

 

[Jamstruth]

God people are bitching about that..
how do people play games like Fallout 3 then :/

I dont know if I sound precise enough, but if a happy end and happy environment is what they are looking for.. tough luck! Bioware WANTED to end it this way, live it with.

Anyway, good to see them respond though

Fallout 3 is different. That's Bethesda. Bethesda games get given a crapton of slack.

Also if what I think will happen happens (i.e. if the Indoctrination Theory is right) they'll switch tacks once the first DLC is released from rage at the ending to rage at money-grubbing and not giving the series a conclusion in the full game and making it DLC.

 

[Deleted member 473940]

God people are bitching about that..
how do people play games like Fallout 3 then :/

I dont know if I sound precise enough, but if a happy end and happy environment is what they are looking for.. tough luck! Bioware WANTED to end it this way, live it with.

Anyway, good to see them respond though

Fallout 3 is different. That's Bethesda. Bethesda games get given a crapton of slack.

Also if what I think will happen happens (i.e. if the Indoctrination Theory is right) they'll switch tacks once the first DLC is released from rage at the ending to rage at money-grubbing and not giving the series a conclusion in the full game and making it DLC.

I know that fallout is from bethesda.. but that post apocalyptic environment and shit.. its not unicorns and flowers everywhere lol.

 

[Gahars]

God people are bitching about that..
how do people play games like Fallout 3 then :/

I dont know if I sound precise enough, but if a happy end and happy environment is what they are looking for.. tough luck! Bioware WANTED to end it this way, live it with.

Anyway, good to see them respond though

Fallout 3 is different. That's Bethesda. Bethesda games get given a crapton of slack.

Also if what I think will happen happens (i.e. if the Indoctrination Theory is right) they'll switch tacks once the first DLC is released from rage at the ending to rage at money-grubbing and not giving the series a conclusion in the full game and making it DLC.

I know that fallout is from bethesda.. but that post apocalyptic environment and shit.. its not unicorns and flowers everywhere lol.

Oh really?

 

[Deleted member 473940]

God people are bitching about that..
how do people play games like Fallout 3 then :/

I dont know if I sound precise enough, but if a happy end and happy environment is what they are looking for.. tough luck! Bioware WANTED to end it this way, live it with.

Anyway, good to see them respond though

Fallout 3 is different. That's Bethesda. Bethesda games get given a crapton of slack.

Also if what I think will happen happens (i.e. if the Indoctrination Theory is right) they'll switch tacks once the first DLC is released from rage at the ending to rage at money-grubbing and not giving the series a conclusion in the full game and making it DLC.

I know that fallout is from bethesda.. but that post apocalyptic environment and shit.. its not unicorns and flowers everywhere lol.

Oh really?

LOL thats the kinda ending people were hoping for
Sheppard riding an unicorn back to earth after saving it

 

[Zarcon]

I'm sad that so many people who think the complainers are whining think they wanted a happy ending. :

 

[Jamstruth]

God people are bitching about that..
how do people play games like Fallout 3 then :/

I dont know if I sound precise enough, but if a happy end and happy environment is what they are looking for.. tough luck! Bioware WANTED to end it this way, live it with.

Anyway, good to see them respond though

Fallout 3 is different. That's Bethesda. Bethesda games get given a crapton of slack.

Also if what I think will happen happens (i.e. if the Indoctrination Theory is right) they'll switch tacks once the first DLC is released from rage at the ending to rage at money-grubbing and not giving the series a conclusion in the full game and making it DLC.

I know that fallout is from bethesda.. but that post apocalyptic environment and shit.. its not unicorns and flowers everywhere lol.

Oh really?

LOL thats the kinda ending people were hoping for
Sheppard riding an unicorn back to earth after saving it

Nobody wants a "happy ending" they just think this current ending gives a very horrible conclusion. At the end of the game nothing you have done really matters or affects the ending choices. Its ending A, B or C. That's the problem not that the ending isn't a good ending.

 

[leic7]

^ Could you articulate what you think "an ending where what you've done matters" would be like?

@[member='Sterling']:
I thought it's the most "kind, humble, and pro-choice" option because it solves the problem and involves the least amount of suffering and controlling of others. That's just how my Shepard is. If there's a chance to reconcile with the enemies without hurting anyone in the process, she'd do it.

@[member='Zarcon']:

Spoiler

"Assimilation" because of the new DNA thingy? I think the DNA thing is just a representation of 'common ground' among different species, the writers are just trying to materialize the concept of 'common ground' in the form of a new DNA... Cheesy as it may be, if that's the literary device they'd chosen to use... ok lol
It doesn't mean everyone will be the same though.

 

[Jamstruth]

^ Could you articulate what you think "an ending where what you've done matters" would be like?

I'll be honest, i'm not sure. Maybe where certain characters will act a certain way reacting to how you've affected them. E.g. One of you companions sacrificng themselves to kill the Reapers along with you rather than leave you alone in the end.