The Piracy Survey

[cookiemonbc]

Interesting survey. Good luck!

 

[Satangel]

Good luck, filled it in!

 

[BoxmanWTF]

I redid it, only because you ARE A PIRATE!

Spoiler

[media]http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf[/media]

That's not cool, you shouldn't manipulate the outcome of the poll. Everybody has one vote and that should be respected.

no no, I he wanted us to do a second poll because he had to pay for the first one

 

[Foxi4]

I redid it, only because you ARE A PIRATE!

Spoiler

[media]http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf[/media]

That's not cool, you shouldn't manipulate the outcome of the poll. Everybody has one vote and that should be respected.

no no, I he wanted us to do a second poll because he had to pay for the first one

Oh, I see it now.

Alrighty then, I re-took it aswell, I thought the first service was fine.

 

[Ace]

Oh, I see it now.

Alrighty then, I re-took it aswell, I thought the first service was fine.

Yeah the other service was alright, up until when it asked me to pay to view results once this survey went over 50 people

EDIT: I want to take the opportunity to also ask if it's possible to put this thread as an announcement on the board index, so that I could get more responses. If this can be done, I will be forever grateful to the entire community.

 

[Deleted member 158512]

I thought the exact same thing as @Cyan did. Since getting a pirated copy of any piece of media means to have not bought it but still have a copy of that media, that'd mean that using cassettes to record of the air or using a digital recorder would also be illegal because you're getting a copy of paid media without paying.

And in many cases those ARE illegal. I don't know about Canada, but in America you always hear some guy mumble "unauthorized recordings of this program are prohibited by blah blah blah" at the beginning of TV programs. There was a massive lobby against cassette tapes, CD-burners, MP3-players, DVRs, and so-forth when the technology was new. Every time something new like that pops up, everyone cries about how it's going to be the end of the entertainment industry. And oh look, all those things are totally standard today, despite still being in a legal grey area.

And oh look - smart companies have already figured out how to profit off the changing market (Steam, Netflix, Apple), rather than trying to find more ways to restrict content and impede progress (any company that uses DRM, Hulu). Lol, that was a bit of a tangent.

 

[Ace]

It's fine to discuss it! Part of the reason I also created the survey was to spark up discussion again, since it always comes and goes when I'm not around

Honestly though, my thesis is mostly going to be criticism towards existing legislation of piracy, if anything. The results so far are so incredibly contrasting with what current copyright law dictates, it's kind of ridiculous to think they'd be so exorbitant if we'd ever reach a point where piracy goes prosecuted in court.

EDIT: 100 responses in 3 hours and 20 minutes! Thank you so much! This simple research paper will easily surpass the others in the class, that I can guarantee.

 

[Cyan]

And in many cases those ARE illegal. I don't know about Canada, but in America you always hear some guy mumble "unauthorized recordings of this program are prohibited by blah blah blah" at the beginning of TV programs. There was a massive lobby against cassette tapes, CD-burners, MP3-players, DVRs, and so-forth when the technology was new. Every time something new like that pops up, everyone cries about how it's going to be the end of the entertainment industry. And oh look, all those things are totally standard today, despite still being in a legal grey area.

And oh look - smart companies have already figured out how to profit off the changing market (Steam, Netflix, Apple), rather than trying to find more ways to restrict content and impede progress (any company that uses DRM, Hulu). Lol, that was a bit of a tangent.

In France, they instituted a tax on ALL virgin media to users to pirate. That tax is reversed (should be at least) to all the arts' authors.
Few years back they decided that it's now forbidden to copy things on virgin media, but they just a little forgot to remove that tax

By virgin media, it goes from HDD to CD or audio Tapes, VHS, Phones, SD card, etc. Anything writable has an "author tax".


We don't have any legal advertisement at the start of TV program. It's part of the culture to be able to record a program.
It's legal for "Family circle" only, and forbidden to show it on public (for example in street, Put music in public place like shops, etc. You need to pay a society (SACEM) for that which will reverse a little part of that tax to the respective authors and keep the biggest part for them. They even ask to pay them if the author is interpreting his own song in public, it's forbiden! you have to pay them to be allowed to sing your OWN song).
You are allowed to put them on the net (youtube?) if you pay the other society (SESAM).

 

[Foxi4]

And in many cases those ARE illegal. I don't know about Canada, but in America you always hear some guy mumble "unauthorized recordings of this program are prohibited by blah blah blah" at the beginning of TV programs. There was a massive lobby against cassette tapes, CD-burners, MP3-players, DVRs, and so-forth when the technology was new. Every time something new like that pops up, everyone cries about how it's going to be the end of the entertainment industry. And oh look, all those things are totally standard today, despite still being in a legal grey area.

And oh look - smart companies have already figured out how to profit off the changing market (Steam, Netflix, Apple), rather than trying to find more ways to restrict content and impede progress (any company that uses DRM, Hulu). Lol, that was a bit of a tangent.

In France, they instituted a tax on ALL virgin media to users to pirate. That tax is reversed (should be at least) to all the arts' authors.
Few years back they decided that it's now forbidden to copy things on virgin media, but they just a little forgot to remove that tax

By virgin media, it goes from HDD to CD or audio Tapes, VHS, Phones, SD card, etc. Anything writable has an "author tax".


We don't have any legal advertisement at the start of TV program. It's part of the culture to be able to record a program.
It's legal for "Family circle" only, and forbidden to show it on public (for example in street, Put music in public place like shops, etc. You need to pay a society for that which will reverse a little part of that tax to the respective authors and keep the biggest part for them. They even ask to pay them if the author is interpreting his own song in public, it's forbiden! you have to pay them to be allowed to sing your OWN song)

I completely agree with Cyan, it should be acceptable. TV is not for free - public television is sponsored by the viewers paying taxes, the programs are made partially from your money and *for* you, it's only logical that you should be able to tape them for later use. Otherwise, what's the point of Ti-Vo's and all that other HDD-equipped recorders you use to "record a game and view it later"? If recording those programs is made illegal, they can just as well start confiscating them as illegal equipment since they have no other role.

EDIT: 100 responses in 3 hours and 20 minutes! Thank you so much! This simple research paper will easily surpass the others in the class, that I can guarantee.

Keep in mind that it will be slightly bias. While according to the rules, piracy-related content is prohibited... this forum doesn't exactly frown upon it.

 

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[Issac]

I hope you'll do well! I also contributed just now

I think the current "prices" are way too high.... should be more like the actual price... damn i can't put my words into english at the moment...

so Ace: Jag tycker att böterna är sinnessjukt höga i dagsläget i sverige, och tycker det snarare ska ligga på vad en låt kostar digitalt på itunes, och vad en film kostar att köpa på dvd, istället för att tvinga någon att betala tjugo tusen för en film typ...

 

[Deleted member 158512]

And in many cases those ARE illegal. I don't know about Canada, but in America you always hear some guy mumble "unauthorized recordings of this program are prohibited by blah blah blah" at the beginning of TV programs. There was a massive lobby against cassette tapes, CD-burners, MP3-players, DVRs, and so-forth when the technology was new. Every time something new like that pops up, everyone cries about how it's going to be the end of the entertainment industry. And oh look, all those things are totally standard today, despite still being in a legal grey area.

And oh look - smart companies have already figured out how to profit off the changing market (Steam, Netflix, Apple), rather than trying to find more ways to restrict content and impede progress (any company that uses DRM, Hulu). Lol, that was a bit of a tangent.

In France, they instituted a tax on ALL virgin media to users to pirate. That tax is reversed (should be at least) to all the arts' authors.
Few years back they decided that it's now forbidden to copy things on virgin media, but they just a little forgot to remove that tax

By virgin media, it goes from HDD to CD or audio Tapes, VHS, Phones, SD card, etc. Anything writable has an "author tax".


We don't have any legal advertisement at the start of TV program. It's part of the culture to be able to record a program.
It's legal for "Family circle" only, and forbidden to show it on public (for example in street, Put music in public place like shops, etc. You need to pay a society (SACEM) for that which will reverse a little part of that tax to the respective authors and keep the biggest part for them. They even ask to pay them if the author is interpreting his own song in public, it's forbiden! you have to pay them to be allowed to sing your OWN song).
You are allowed to put them on the net (youtube?) if you pay the other society (SESAM).

Yeah, see, that actually makes sense. But welcome to American law, where it's always about giving the biggest opportunity for a money grab to the biggest money grubber.

 

[BORTZ]

I took it dOOd. I said like 2 or 3 bucks a song and 20 or 30 per movie.

 

[Gahars]

And... done.

Good luck with the paper.

 

[thiefb0ss]

Yar har fiddle dee dee....

 

[jarejare3]

The survey had soo little question .

Thought it would be around 5 pages of stuff.