thaddius' Console Classic 2012 Edition: Round 7

[Foxi4]

Which is hilarious since it only had one analog stick.
In fact the PS1 is lacking in a lot of genres. It only really stood out with it's RPGs.

But frankly your tone is really putting me off, Guild. You're arguing over other people's opinions as if they are a personal insult against you and you must set them straight with the righteous truth.

In my opinion this is really a close choice between the N64 and the PS1. There is nothing objective about this.

It isn't hard to see his "point" though. 2,418 games of the PlayStation verus 387 on the N64 is sort of a deal breaker for many. The lifespan of the PlayStation was also considerably longer then that of the N64. It sold nearly 5 times as much as the N64 did, so you can't say it didn't have a fanbase (thaddius's number for the PSX is wrong as he is not counting the PSOne revision). I also disagree with the fact that only RPG's were exceptional on the PSX - what about all the sports games like FIFA? They flourished on the console. What about action games, like Syphon Filter? What about actiony flight sims like Ace Combat? What about Mech sims like Armored Core or Mech Warrior? The PSX was an *extremely versatile* console, and I can't say it doesn't have good FPS'es to be honest - think of Medal of Honor for instance - a timeless classic! Also, what about Silent Hill? What about Dino Crisis? What about all those great survival horrors that defined the PlayStation? What about the 3D Final Fantasies?





As much as Iove the N64, to me there is no doubt who should "win" this.

 

[Wiip™]

PS1 has a few good games but the N64 wins.
Besides I kind of like the N64 controller.

"A few good games"? Lolkay.

This isn't even matter of "quantity over quality", this is "quantity and quality". I mean the N64 had some fantastic games but the PSX had not only better games, but more of them.

Name these "better games" for us please.

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. (I think We can all agree on that.)

 

[Midna]

PS1 has a few good games but the N64 wins.
Besides I kind of like the N64 controller.

"A few good games"? Lolkay.

This isn't even matter of "quantity over quality", this is "quantity and quality". I mean the N64 had some fantastic games but the PSX had not only better games, but more of them.

Name these "better games" for us please.

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. (I think We can all agree on that.)

Oh yes, devs back then just loved that extra space...

 

[Foxi4]

Name these "better games" for us please.

1. Metal Gear Solid
2. Syphon Filter 1-3
3. Dino Crisis 1-2
4. Silent Hill
5. Final Fantasy of all-sorts
6. Ace Combat 1-3
7. Duke Nukem: The Land of the Babes and Time to Kill
8. Alone in the Dark series
9. Battle Arena Toshiden series
10. Tekken series
11. Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen and Soul Reaver
12. Bloody Roar series
13. Castlevania SoTN and Chronicles (duh)
14. Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger
15. Megaman Legends 1, 2
16. Megaman X games
17. Dance Dance Revolution games
18. Descent games
19. Die Hard Trilogy 1, 2
20. Digimon World games
21. Dino Crisis games
22. Discworld games
23. Dragonball: Final Bout
24. Fear Effect 1, 2
25. Fifa of all-sorts
26. Fighting Force 2
27. Front Mission series
28. Futurecop LAPD (oh, what a lovely underdog!)
29. Grandia
30. Grand Theft Auto series
31. Grand Turismo series
32. MDK (aww yeah...)
33. Medal of Honor series
34. Metal Slug
35. Motorhead
36. Need... fo'... Speed.
37. Oddworld
38. Parasite Eve series
39. Persona series
40. Snatcher
41. Policenauts
42. SpecOps series
43. Test Drive series
44. Time Crisis series
45. Tomb Raider series
46. Twisted Metal series
47. Urban Chaos
48. Uprising X
49. Vagrant Story
50. WipeOut series


...and I'm not even touching the tip of this iceberg. I'm not saying "better" titles, but definatelly "more quality titles" then the N64 had to offer. Correct me if I'm wrong about some titles on the list, too - perhaps some of those had N64 versions that I am unaware of.

 

[Midna]

^Yes that's the problem, Guild is saying more numerous and "better" titles. Which is entirely open to debate.

But yeah, PS1 had a really nice library of good games. Both systems had their ups and downs

 

[FireGrey]

Name these "better games" for us please.

1. Metal Gear Solid
2. Syphon Filter 1-3
3. Dino Crisis 1-2
4. Silent Hill
5. Final Fantasy of all-sorts
6. Ace Combat 1-3
7. Duke Nukem: The Land of the Babes and Time to Kill
8. Alone in the Dark series
9. Battle Arena Toshiden series
10. Tekken series
11. Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen and Soul Reaver
12. Bloody Roar series
13. Castlevania SoTN and Chronicles (duh)
14. Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger
15. Megaman Legends 1, 2
16. Megaman X games
17. Dance Dance Revolution games
18. Descent games
19. Die Hard Trilogy 1, 2
20. Digimon World games
21. Dino Crisis games
22. Discworld games
23. Dragonball: Final Bout
24. Fear Effect 1, 2
25. Fifa of all-sorts
26. Fighting Force 2
27. Front Mission series
28. Futurecop LAPD (oh, what a lovely underdog!)
29. Grandia
30. Grand Theft Auto series
31. Grand Turismo series
32. MDK (aww yeah...)
33. Medal of Honor series
34. Metal Slug
35. Motorhead
36. Need... fo'... Speed.
37. Oddworld
38. Parasite Eve series
39. Persona series
40. Snatcher
41. Policenauts
42. SpecOps series
43. Test Drive series
44. Time Crisis series
45. Tomb Raider series
46. Twisted Metal series
47. Urban Chaos
48. Uprising X
49. Vagrant Story
50. WipeOut series


...and I'm not even touching the tip of this iceberg. I'm not saying "better" titles, but definatelly "more quality titles" then the N64 had to offer. Correct me if I'm wrong about some titles on the list, too - perhaps some of those had N64 versions that I am unaware of.

Yet 1. and 31. I find semi-decent.
30. is good but it's too 2D on the PSX.

 

[Foxi4]

30. is good but it's too 2D on the PSX.

Say what you will, I'm a snob and I LOVE isometry and top-down views. I enjoyed GTA1 thoroughly, wasted god knows how much time playing it.

Also, Metal Gear Solid "semi-decent"? Really? That game was perfection on a disc.

 

[Midna]

30. is good but it's too 2D on the PSX.

Say what you will, I'm a snob and I LOVE isometry and top-down views. I enjoyed GTA1 thoroughly, wasted god knows how much time playing it.

Also, Metal Gear Solid "semi-decent"? Really? That game was perfection on a disc.

I watched a steam of it on /v/ a few weeks ago. I was laughing so hard... I took that stuff seriously when I was a kid...

Yeah MGS is awesome

 

[FireGrey]

30. is good but it's too 2D on the PSX.

Say what you will, I'm a snob and I LOVE isometry and top-down views. I enjoyed GTA1 thoroughly, wasted god knows how much time playing it.

Also, Metal Gear Solid "semi-decent"? Really? That game was perfection on a disc.

The PS2+ versions are.

 

[Foxi4]

We're straying off-topic here.

My point was, I get the impression that some people around here are bias (duh), but not necessarily just because they like a given company.

For example, they have particularily fond memories with one game on a console, one or two, whatever, and due to that simple fact they overlook all the other aspects, blinded completely by their nostaliga.

Not sure what the ulterior motive of this thread even is but I would assume that it's to pick the "winner", if that's even a term, for each generation - the console that was ahead of its competitors even if only by an inch for some reason.

I can understand that people love Mario 64, that they adore Mario Kart, they're all great, but can you really think of all that many games for the N64? I surely can't think of all that much AAAAA software for it, and I'd hate it if a console "won" any of those "battles" just "because Mario", that's the worst possible reason. It's like saying "The Wii was the best console of this generation because it sold the most" - no it wasn't, by no means, unless your standards are 1000+ shovelware titles and "being casual and hip with the WiiMote Stick", it sold alot because it was affordable and kids friendly, hence the perfect purchase for confused parents.

I'm beating about the bush, but my point is that we should have an onlook on the whole situation, think of all the aspects, all the pro's and all the con's.

That's why in the next thread I won't say "herp derp, Dreamcast hands down" because it wasn't the best - the PS2 was.

 

[Felipe_9595]

Completely surprised about N64 getting more votes than the PSX: pure bias. i am nintendo fan that had most of his consoles (Even the VB) and i can say the psx had better games. Only the rpg library of PSX can blow away the entire library of N64. 64 was amazing. Psx was godlike

 

[Vigilante]

As much as I like Nintendo,the PS1 for me had better games.

 

[xist]

*Wanders in to check vote count....*

Ok....i'm shocked and yet completely not shocked simultaneously. I now wouldn't be that surprised if the GC beats the PS2 now.

 

[Foxi4]

*Wanders in to check vote count....*

Ok....i'm shocked and yet completely not shocked simultaneously. I now wouldn't be that surprised if the GC beats the PS2 now.

What's a PS2 and is it made by Sony?

Because if it's made by Sony then I don't like it.










On a serious note though, the forum is Nintendo-friendly (GBATemp, d'uh!) but I don't think the users are stupid enough to pull THAT off...










...or do I?

 

[Paarish]

I applaud the member who thought to themselves: "Fuck it! I know it's not gonna win but goddammit the Sega Saturn was awesome!"

 

[Guild McCommunist]

^Yes that's the problem, Guild is saying more numerous and "better" titles. Which is entirely open to debate.

But yeah, PS1 had a really nice library of good games. Both systems had their ups and downs

I mean the N64 certainly isn't terrible. It was pretty much the first video game console I played and I have some nice memories on it. It produced some excellent games (my big shout out for Perfect Dark, which is why I bought a Xbox 360) but it still completely lacked in a larger library. It had some good games but I haven't found any of them to be particularly better than PSX counterparts. I'd take Spyro 3 over Super Mario 64 any day. Crash Team Racing is loads better than Mario Kart 64. Yes, I'll choose Metal Gear Solid over Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask too.

It's not like the N64 games are bad, I've played all the ones I mentioned and found them to all be enjoyable (except Majora's Mask, blech), but they're not any better than the PSX ones, and combined with the fact that the PSX had more of it, it seems like an obvious choice.

And yes I'm debating this since that's the point of a forum.

EDIT: But yeah, if the PS2 doesn't win next round then I swear I'll lose all confidence in this forum.

 

[Valwin]

EDIT: But yeah, if the PS2 doesn't win next round then I swear I'll lose all confidence in this forum.

you cant force people to like your shit Mc comunist geez

Crash Team Racing is loads better than Mario Kart 64

lies either you were drunk or you never play MK64

 

[raulpica]

My heart says Amiga CD32 since it's A1200 based, but truth says PSX.

The Playstation was an amazing console, with loads of GREAT games.

The N64 was a nice console but I never had it back then, and PC emulators still suck massively to this day, so I can't still enjoy it fully.

Not that there are many games on it that interest me anyway.

 

[PolloDiablo]

EDIT: But yeah, if the PS2 doesn't win next round then I swear I'll lose all confidence in this forum.

now everyone is gonna vote the GC just to piss you off

 

[emigre]

EDIT: But yeah, if the PS2 doesn't win next round then I swear I'll lose all confidence in this forum.

You actually had confidence in this forum