Kim Jong Il has Died

[ChaosZero816]

Didn't see this coming. I wonder if his son would continue his work or would bring a change to North Korea.
I also wonder how this will impact the rest of the world.

 

[Foxi4]

lol @ usa occupying north korea. that is never going to happen, Kokotaku.

also don't get your hopes up guys, this guy provided his sons with everything they have including their upbringing. all it is doing is bringing in another man to power to make nukes and do whatever crazy things his dad was doing.

imho the kid would be better off either discontinuing the nuclear program and leaving everything as it is now or doing that and trying to help undo the damage caused by his father with the relations with south korea and the rest of the world. will this happen? probably not. I expect more nuke testing in the future. sad.

but occupation of north korea? lmao. whatever. not going to happen.

You're touching a very interesting issue as far as South Korea is concerned - they're a very peculiar "case" when it comes to global politics. You're assuming that South Koreans actually "want" to become a part of the "rest of the world" and I assure you that most actually don't. There's nothing to gain for them from good relations - they just want to be safe in their haven. We know they have a nuclear program, which would normally lead to the World's No.1 Police Officer to go rampant on their soil, but we also know they actually have them and aren't really afraid of using them, hence U.S.A takes its yearly chill-pill. I doubt anything will change in South Korea, and if you had the pleasure of talking with a middle-class South Korea citizen, you would come to a similar conclusion. They don't *want* to change, they like it as it is and they honestly believe that whatever is outside the borders is "evil". So there, my 2 cents.

 

[Valwin]

lol @ usa occupying north korea. that is never going to happen, Kokotaku.

also don't get your hopes up guys, this guy provided his sons with everything they have including their upbringing. all it is doing is bringing in another man to power to make nukes and do whatever crazy things his dad was doing.

imho the kid would be better off either discontinuing the nuclear program and leaving everything as it is now or doing that and trying to help undo the damage caused by his father with the relations with south korea and the rest of the world. will this happen? probably not. I expect more nuke testing in the future. sad.

but occupation of north korea? lmao. whatever. not going to happen.

what would stop south korea from crosing the border ? the could use this moment to their avantage on the war

 

[Foxi4]

lol @ usa occupying north korea. that is never going to happen, Kokotaku.

also don't get your hopes up guys, this guy provided his sons with everything they have including their upbringing. all it is doing is bringing in another man to power to make nukes and do whatever crazy things his dad was doing.

imho the kid would be better off either discontinuing the nuclear program and leaving everything as it is now or doing that and trying to help undo the damage caused by his father with the relations with south korea and the rest of the world. will this happen? probably not. I expect more nuke testing in the future. sad.

but occupation of north korea? lmao. whatever. not going to happen.

what would stop south korea from crosing the border ? the could use this moment to their avantage on the war

No idea, perhaps a lack of leadership and general chaos in the chain of command? Nah, prepostrous, wild theory.

 

[The Milkman]

lol @ usa occupying north korea. that is never going to happen, Kokotaku.

also don't get your hopes up guys, this guy provided his sons with everything they have including their upbringing. all it is doing is bringing in another man to power to make nukes and do whatever crazy things his dad was doing.

imho the kid would be better off either discontinuing the nuclear program and leaving everything as it is now or doing that and trying to help undo the damage caused by his father with the relations with south korea and the rest of the world. will this happen? probably not. I expect more nuke testing in the future. sad.

but occupation of north korea? lmao. whatever. not going to happen.

You're touching a very interesting issue as far as South Korea is concerned - they're a very peculiar "case" when it comes to global politics. You're assuming that South Koreans actually "want" to become a part of the "rest of the world" and I assure you that most actually don't. There's nothing to gain for them from good relations - they just want to be safe in their haven. We know they have a nuclear program, which would normally lead to the World's No.1 Police Officer to go rampant on their soil, but we also know they actually have them and aren't really afraid of using them, hence U.S.A takes its yearly chill-pill. I doubt anything will change in South Korea, and if you had the pleasure of talking with a middle-class South Korea citizen, you would come to a similar conclusion. They don't *want* to change, they like it as it is and they honestly believe that whatever is outside the borders is "evil". So there, my 2 cents.

Wait... didnt kim run NORTH korea?

Anyway, I hope US doesnt go all leroy jenkins and try and take over NK or anything like that. hopefully, his son ,whos apparently lined up to be next ruler, is more willing to be reasonable when it comes to relations with other countrys. (not likely since ol' Kim was crazier then his father)

 

[Valwin]

lol @ usa occupying north korea. that is never going to happen, Kokotaku.

also don't get your hopes up guys, this guy provided his sons with everything they have including their upbringing. all it is doing is bringing in another man to power to make nukes and do whatever crazy things his dad was doing.

imho the kid would be better off either discontinuing the nuclear program and leaving everything as it is now or doing that and trying to help undo the damage caused by his father with the relations with south korea and the rest of the world. will this happen? probably not. I expect more nuke testing in the future. sad.

but occupation of north korea? lmao. whatever. not going to happen.

what would stop south korea from crosing the border ? the could use this moment to their avantage on the war

No idea, perhaps a lack of leadership and general chaos in the chain of command? Nah, prepostrous, wild theory.

those are good things

 

[Foxi4]

lol @ usa occupying north korea. that is never going to happen, Kokotaku.

also don't get your hopes up guys, this guy provided his sons with everything they have including their upbringing. all it is doing is bringing in another man to power to make nukes and do whatever crazy things his dad was doing.

imho the kid would be better off either discontinuing the nuclear program and leaving everything as it is now or doing that and trying to help undo the damage caused by his father with the relations with south korea and the rest of the world. will this happen? probably not. I expect more nuke testing in the future. sad.

but occupation of north korea? lmao. whatever. not going to happen.

what would stop south korea from crosing the border ? the could use this moment to their avantage on the war

No idea, perhaps a lack of leadership and general chaos in the chain of command? Nah, prepostrous, wild theory.

those are good things

Your logic is interesting, please, enlighten me as to how exactly the reasons for colapse of most great empires are "good" for them?

 

[Valwin]

lol @ usa occupying north korea. that is never going to happen, Kokotaku.

also don't get your hopes up guys, this guy provided his sons with everything they have including their upbringing. all it is doing is bringing in another man to power to make nukes and do whatever crazy things his dad was doing.

imho the kid would be better off either discontinuing the nuclear program and leaving everything as it is now or doing that and trying to help undo the damage caused by his father with the relations with south korea and the rest of the world. will this happen? probably not. I expect more nuke testing in the future. sad.

but occupation of north korea? lmao. whatever. not going to happen.

what would stop south korea from crosing the border ? the could use this moment to their avantage on the war

No idea, perhaps a lack of leadership and general chaos in the chain of command? Nah, prepostrous, wild theory.

those are good things

Your logic is interesting, please, enlighten me as to how exactly the reasons for colapse of most great empires are "good" for them?

empires in chaos you use that to strike them hard and fast is simple warfare my friend in the 18 century wen france was in chaos the other european powers decided to declare war and try to get pieces of revolutionary france

 

[YayMii]

FYI, the cause of death was a heart attack. He was a heavy smoker, so it's no surprise.

 

[chris888222]

He was one cool mudafucka

 

[person66]

lol @ usa occupying north korea. that is never going to happen, Kokotaku.

also don't get your hopes up guys, this guy provided his sons with everything they have including their upbringing. all it is doing is bringing in another man to power to make nukes and do whatever crazy things his dad was doing.

imho the kid would be better off either discontinuing the nuclear program and leaving everything as it is now or doing that and trying to help undo the damage caused by his father with the relations with south korea and the rest of the world. will this happen? probably not. I expect more nuke testing in the future. sad.

but occupation of north korea? lmao. whatever. not going to happen.

You're touching a very interesting issue as far as South Korea is concerned - they're a very peculiar "case" when it comes to global politics. You're assuming that South Koreans actually "want" to become a part of the "rest of the world" and I assure you that most actually don't. There's nothing to gain for them from good relations - they just want to be safe in their haven. We know they have a nuclear program, which would normally lead to the World's No.1 Police Officer to go rampant on their soil, but we also know they actually have them and aren't really afraid of using them, hence U.S.A takes its yearly chill-pill. I doubt anything will change in South Korea, and if you had the pleasure of talking with a middle-class South Korea citizen, you would come to a similar conclusion. They don't *want* to change, they like it as it is and they honestly believe that whatever is outside the borders is "evil". So there, my 2 cents.

You do realize he ruled North Korea, not South Korea, right?

 

[YayMii]

You do realize he ruled North Korea, not South Korea, right?

Pretty sure he knows that, it's likely just a small mistake on his part.

 

[Foxi4]

lol @ usa occupying north korea. that is never going to happen, Kokotaku.

also don't get your hopes up guys, this guy provided his sons with everything they have including their upbringing. all it is doing is bringing in another man to power to make nukes and do whatever crazy things his dad was doing.

imho the kid would be better off either discontinuing the nuclear program and leaving everything as it is now or doing that and trying to help undo the damage caused by his father with the relations with south korea and the rest of the world. will this happen? probably not. I expect more nuke testing in the future. sad.

but occupation of north korea? lmao. whatever. not going to happen.

what would stop south korea from crosing the border ? the could use this moment to their avantage on the war

No idea, perhaps a lack of leadership and general chaos in the chain of command? Nah, prepostrous, wild theory.

those are good things

Your logic is interesting, please, enlighten me as to how exactly the reasons for colapse of most great empires are "good" for them?

empires in chaos you use that to strike them hard and fast is simple warfare my friend in the 18 century wen france was in chaos the other european powers decided to declare war and try to get pieces of revolutionary france

I was convinced that you wanted to say it is an opportunity for South Korea to conquer the neighbouring nations, not the other way around. It seems I misunderstood you. In that case I agree, it would be the perfect moment to strike, but knowing the history of Asian nations it's likely that a new leader will be appointed before western nations amass a strike force.

 

[luckwii]

What the heck is wrong with you people? Sad to see a him go? He was a mass murderer. His people are not happy. They have been dying of starvation and disease aside from him killing them. The US the bad guys? North Korea good? WTF? Good god you guys have your heads so far up your ass that it is sitting back on top of your shoulders again... I can't believe some of the praise of murder genocide, and evil dictators that goes on here. If you guys want to have bleeding hearts feel for all the dead that he is responsible for. And quit bashing the United States.

http://www.northkoreanow.org/the-crisis/mass-starvations-in-north-korea/

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP10.HTM

 

[Foxi4]

Explain to me in detail how a switch from dictatorship to democracy via means of invasion and excessive force with all the civilian casualties and destruction of infrastructure in an already backwards country is a good thing. The U.S has no right to invade countries just because they feel like it, it's the kind of thinking that started the 3rd reich. The U.S is not the navel of the world and you have to entertain and accept the fact that not all nations are like yours and you have no right to lecture them about their faults by means of missile strikes. The military conduct of the U.S should be considered a war crime, mister.

 

[amptor]

lol @ usa occupying north korea. that is never going to happen, Kokotaku.

also don't get your hopes up guys, this guy provided his sons with everything they have including their upbringing. all it is doing is bringing in another man to power to make nukes and do whatever crazy things his dad was doing.

imho the kid would be better off either discontinuing the nuclear program and leaving everything as it is now or doing that and trying to help undo the damage caused by his father with the relations with south korea and the rest of the world. will this happen? probably not. I expect more nuke testing in the future. sad.

but occupation of north korea? lmao. whatever. not going to happen.

You're touching a very interesting issue as far as South Korea is concerned - they're a very peculiar "case" when it comes to global politics. You're assuming that South Koreans actually "want" to become a part of the "rest of the world" and I assure you that most actually don't. There's nothing to gain for them from good relations - they just want to be safe in their haven. We know they have a nuclear program, which would normally lead to the World's No.1 Police Officer to go rampant on their soil, but we also know they actually have them and aren't really afraid of using them, hence U.S.A takes its yearly chill-pill. I doubt anything will change in South Korea, and if you had the pleasure of talking with a middle-class South Korea citizen, you would come to a similar conclusion. They don't *want* to change, they like it as it is and they honestly believe that whatever is outside the borders is "evil". So there, my 2 cents.

south korea is our ally and they more or less are very similar to the usa / japan from what I can see.

 

[amptor]

anyway guys, the South koreans aren't going to invade the north. that would be stupid, they'd get mass slaughtered trying to do so. and the usa isn't going to go over there and magically take over the north.

all you are going to see is a transition of power and a new ruler instated and business as usual. this isn't going to change anything unless the new leader of north korea is charismatic.

 

[YayMii]

What the heck is wrong with you people? Sad to see a him go? He was a mass murderer. His people are not happy. They have been dying of starvation and disease aside from him killing them. The US the bad guys? North Korea good? WTF? Good god you guys have your heads so far up your ass that it is sitting back on top of your shoulders again... I can't believe some of the praise of murder genocide, and evil dictators that goes on here. If you guys want to have bleeding hearts feel for all the dead that he is responsible for. And quit bashing the United States.

Who's bashing the US? And who said that they were sad to see him go? They pretty much said that US was being defensive and NOT abusing their power to invade other nations. And anybody you somehow portrayed as sad were either joking, or sarcastic, and I don't really know how you could've misinterpreted that.

Nobody said that the US were the bad guys, and nobody praised North Korea for its actions. Besides, even with Jong-il dead, his son Jong-un is likely going to follow in his footsteps so it probably won't even matter.

 

[Helpful Corn]

China rules NK, we would start WW3 if we were to try anything there, it would be a very short war with no victors.

 

[amptor]

it's always a strange subject too,the tensions between china and the US when everyone knows they get a lot of $$ from here. and we still send spy planes over them. very strange. look how much stuff is in my room from china, yet the $ gets exchanged from the good ol greenback. strange world this is.

I was just on a US battle ship today and thinking that what is all this crap for, who came up with all these huge war machines. it seems quite a bit overboard if you ask me but I guess it helps save a lot of people's lives..by killing during protecting people... weird world we have.