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titan_tim said:
There have been scientists, artists, paleontologists, the 6 people who were recently unredacted, but they're all names that nobody has ever heard of.

It's only natural to focus on the big names. Clinton being an easy example that nobody cares about being thrown in jail.
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Some are saying Gwendolyn Beck.
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Adam Schiff is a big name, but Democrats don't want to investigate what he ever got into with Ed Buck and hope nobody ever brings it up again.

No, that's not Epstein files. But whatsisface's protestations a few posts up about the left not being a monolithic wagon-circling tribe just makes me laugh. The political class of both major parties covers for their own and quite often even for the other side. The Left's sudden intense focus and (faux) outrage over pedophilia only developed as an angle to Get Trump. It wasnt that long ago that all of Hollywood gave a standing ovation for Roman Polanski at the Oscars.



Heh, check out Weinstein in there.
 
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Hanafuda said:
Adam Schiff is a big name, but Democrats don't want to investigate what he ever got into with Ed Buck and hope nobody ever brings it up again.

No, that's not Epstein files. But whatsisface's protestations a few posts up about the left not being a monolithic wagon-circling tribe just makes me laugh. The political class of both major parties covers for their own and quite often even for the other side. The Left's sudden intense focus and (faux) outrage over pedophilia only developed as an angle to Get Trump. It wasnt that long ago that all of Hollywood gave a standing ovation for Roman Polanski at the Oscars.



Heh, check out Weinstein in there.
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I honestly had to look up what you're talking about with Ed Buck and Schiff. All I see is Buck donated a little under $3k to Schiff. Is there something else I'm missing? Not trying to be obtuse here. If anything the easier thing to go after Schiff for is insider trading, same with Pelosi. Hell, same with the majority of politicians in power.

The Polanski thing is before my time, but I heard about it just a little while ago and it was sick. I think there was a recording and he was being defended by Tarantino and it was making the rounds. Both of them can kill themselves for all I care.
 
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Hanafuda said:
The Left's sudden intense focus and (faux) outrage over pedophilia
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Fuck off with remarks like this. We know you don't care about your party's predatory behavior.

We do care, and we're far better human beings than you are for it.
 
Hanafuda said:
The Left's sudden intense focus and (faux) outrage over pedophilia only developed as an angle to Get Trump
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Bro, you are going through mental gymnastics to side with a dude protecting pedophiles.
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1. You do realize he had his people censor the names of pedophiles, right?

From what I've seen, there is no direct evidence of Trump directing or setting rules on the redactions. The "rules" are all pre-existing laws (Privacy Act & FOIA, for example), intelligence agencies, court orders requiring protection of certain names, etc. There are plenty of people on the internet like yourself saying that Trump is calling the shots, but nobody whistleblowing that it's actually happening.

https://theconversation.com/epstein...-information-is-released-to-the-public-275141

2. He's also pushing for justice to NOT happen for the victims, even pushing for people to forget this all happened.

I'll agree with you to a limited extent on this. I don't really have a problem with Trump denying culpability for himself - even if he were guilty he has that right. But he shouldn't be defending Bill Clinton or anyone else, when there's practically no way for him to know whether any other persons named in the files are guilty. Not his place.
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1: Trump appointed these people and isn't holding them accountable for violating the law by censoring the names of the predators. Even if we go through the hoops to accept he isn't directly involved, it is still his people, and he is still not holding them accountable. Lack of action still speaks volumes.
Yes, their censoring anyone other than the victims violates the law
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/depa...ion-responsive-pages-compliance-epstein-files
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1426091/dl

He should not be removing information about himself; doing so still violates the law. He should be defending himself in court, something he is directly avoiding. And again, the point was his telling people, in his own words, to move on

He literally wants people to stop caring about files about some of the worst crimes in recent/known history.
You are constantly actively avoiding the point. I don't think you actually care about victims, nor do I think pedophilia bothers you. Trump's active avoidiance around these files should disgust you. The fact that they don't is disgusting in itself.
 
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SeltzerMist said:
Fuck off with remarks like this. We know you don't care about your party's predatory behavior.

We do care, and we're far better human beings than you are for it.
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My party is the Democrat party. I've told you this many times. At least, I am still registered as a Democrat and can only vote in the Democrat primaries in my state. In the general election, in national races I pretty much always vote against the Democrats though, because the national party's platform now is not what I joined 40 years ago. It's a perversion of what it was then. In local elections though I vote more of a mix, because I know many of the candidates personally.
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The Catboy said:
Bro, you are going through mental gymnastics to side with a dude protecting pedophiles.

1: Trump appointed these people and isn't holding them accountable for violating the law by censoring the names of the predators. Even if we go through the hoops to accept he isn't directly involved, it is still his people, and he is still not holding them accountable. Lack of action still speaks volumes.
Yes, their censoring anyone other than the victims violates the law
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/depa...ion-responsive-pages-compliance-epstein-files
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1426091/dl

He should not be removing information about himself; doing so still violates the law. He should be defending himself in court, something he is directly avoiding. And again, the point was his telling people, in his own words, to move on

He literally wants people to stop caring about files about some of the worst crimes in recent/known history.
You are constantly actively avoiding the point. I don't think you actually care about victims, nor do I think pedophilia bothers you. Trump's active avoidiance around these files should disgust you. The fact that they don't is disgusting in itself.
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You didn't read my reply in full then, because federal law does require redaction of names besides alleged victims.
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titan_tim said:
I honestly had to look up what you're talking about with Ed Buck and Schiff. All I see is Buck donated a little under $3k to Schiff. Is there something else I'm missing?
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Their social relationship and connections go deep. But there was a major data scrub to protect Schiff after the last young black male prostitute od'd in Buck's house. (yeah, it took more than one before he was busted)
 
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Hanafuda said:
The Left's sudden intense focus and (faux) outrage over pedophilia only developed as an angle to Get Trump
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They've been redacting the pedo's names since the start, which fails to comply with the law. They've also failed to protect victims and released many of their names. They also just redacted more documents
https://mace.house.gov/media/press-...explain-why-epstein-files-were-removed-public
https://www.c-span.org/clip/house-c...g-bondi-over-epstein-files-redactions/5192753
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5gzepnw4lo
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026...-why-is-so-much-redacted-in-the-epstein-files
You keep trying to change what I am talking about; please stop that. It's not only embarrassing; it's obvious that you are going through cognitive dissonance. Trump is overseeing all of this and, again, wants people to stop talking about it. You are ignoring that part right there, how Trump WANTS people to stop talking about this. Trump is literally and openly trying to gaslight people into moving on from this case.
 
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Why is everyone using the word mental gymnastics?
Is it a new slang or what. In my opinion it's worse than covid
 
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Vague and weird nonsense the MAGA never elaborates on
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Here's some elaboration for ya.

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Also worth noting that while 8.7% of that country's population did leave, that 8.7% didn't come to the US so Hana is once again being misleading.
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Hanafuda said:
How is that whataboutism? It's treason IMHO.
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Learn what that word means before you use it again. How embarrassing for you.
 
Hanafuda said:
Take it up with Geiger Capital. They're the source.

What's your source?
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But it's not Geiger Capital, it's a guy named Jonatan Pallesen who REALLY hates immigration in Europe. Seems like a smart guy with a PhD in statistical genetics, but looking at his twitter, he still shares a lot of dumb memes.

Only problem is that his twitter doesn't have this chart anywhere. I can see back to Jan 1st 2025, and nothing showing that graph.
https://x.com/jonatanpallesen

So maybe he deleted it after being shown that it was incorrect? Or maybe someone used his name and made a fake chart to spread. Either way, Geiger Capital is more than happy to amplify it for you to see without vetting.

Nicaragua started having political unrest in 2018, then it deteriorated by early 2020. That's when the mass exodus from their country happened. Wonder if the president at that time could have helped prevent such an unrest from happening in the first place.... I guess he wasn't the self-dubbed "President of peace" at that time yet.
 
What a fucking timeline we're living in. To see people actively defending a corrupt administration to potentially hide what could be some of the biggest crimes of the USA.

But instead of talking about people diddling kids and failing to release the unredacted files (and instead gaslight the victims), let's talk about how great the Stock Market is doing. DOW having record performance!!!

All these lies, under oath! Rules for thee, not for me!

Like I keep saying, Cavalcade of fuck ups, the lot of you.
 
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gamefan5 said:
What a fucking timeline we're living in. To see people actively defending a corrupt administration to potentially hide what could be some of the biggest crimes of the USA.

But instead of talking about people diddling kids and failing to release the unredacted files (and instead gaslight the victims), let's talk about how great the Stock Market is doing. DOW having record performance!!!

All these lies, under oath! Rules for thee, not for me!

Like I keep saying, Cavalcade of fuck ups, the lot of you.
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Basically saying it's okay to rape kids because the stock market is good and the DOW is over 50k....

Except the DOW has dropped below 50k since then. So, can we go after the kid diddlers now?
 
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