Donald Trump and Bill Clinton attended orgy parties with underage girls.

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just because someone says something happened, it doesn't necessarily mean it did.
Yes, we know Trump claimed to have done a lot of things that he really didn't. But funny how you're trying to make him sound like a sweet ol' grampappy, when he's been spreading his cheeks and shitting over the same things on TruthSocial that former presidents have been very professional about.

You're just an example of how bad MAGA can be, and for how bad that is, that is not likely the most extreme case. So much of what you said is false, but you believe it's true because Trump says so. And you also show how little you know of the circumstances, like the files when Biden was president. Under law, they couldn't be released at the time because it was an open investigation. If you understood what that meant, then you wouldn't have mentioned it in the first place.
 
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No, the investigation was still ongoing during the Biden administration and into the beginning of Trump's second term.

You already knew this, so your choice to post this is especially baffling if not embarrassing.
He knew it and decided it would be best for him to ignore it. Plain and simple. He wants to distance himself from the dumpster fire of an administration, but we'll never let him live it down.
 
Make of it what you will. This is in the news today.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-chief-trump-told-goodness-stopping-epstein-2006/story?id=130010254

Summary: 2019 FBI interview of former Palm Beach Police Dept. Chief Reiter revealed that in 2006, in addition to kicking Epstein out of his club, Trump actually called the cops re: Epstein and Maxwell.

"'TRUMP was one of the very first people to call when people found out that they were investigating EPSTEIN,” the report of Reiter’s statement said."
This doesn't undo anything; Trump still raped children, Trump is still protecting pedos, Trump is now telling people to "move on," Trump has been lying through his teeth about these files since last year, and so on. One good deed (which was likely just an attempt to cover his own ass) doesn't change anything else that's happened. Multiple things can be true at once.
I've conceded that it's useless trying to argue with a bunch of retards, that's all.

Of course you went with trying to degrade people through an ableist slur. GG, real good look for you.
I don't care to go through your gish galloping post because the fact remains, Trump is trying to gaslight people into "moving on" from files about rich pedos. Trump is trying to protect these people. Trump had his name scrubbed from the files. Whatever you have to say doesn't change reality. Continue being like this; the rest of the world now only sees you siding with a man who's protecting pedos and is a pedo himself.
 
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This doesn't undo anything; Trump still raped children, Trump is still protecting pedos, Trump is now telling people to "move on," Trump has been lying through his teeth about these files since last year, and so on. One good deed (which was likely just an attempt to cover his own ass) doesn't change anything else that's happened. Multiple things can be true at once.


Except you have no proof that any of those things ever happened. You have beliefs and feelings. The rest is speculation, and absorbing info with confirmation bias. If you want something definitive to occur on this issue, and you want it to be the outcome you desire, you're gonna need much more conclusive evidence than what you guys in here 'just know.'
 
Except you have no proof that any of those things ever happened. You have beliefs and feelings. The rest is speculation, and absorbing info with confirmation bias. If you want something definitive to occur on this issue, and you want it to be the outcome you desire, you're gonna need much more conclusive evidence than what you guys in here 'just know.
"no proof" outside the countless documents and his massive efforts to remove himself from the documents. If what is said is untrue, then why the effort to scrub his name? Why the effort to get people to "move on"? Why would an innocent man have gone through so much effort to censor documents that exposed one of the worst child sex trafficking rings currently known to the public? Why is he protecting these people? You can pretend this isn't all damning; I can't change that but I do find it disgusting that you are ignoring this stuff or so willing to dismiss it for whatever selfish reasons you have.
 
Except you have no proof that any of those things ever happened. You have beliefs and feelings. The rest is speculation, and absorbing info with confirmation bias. If you want something definitive to occur on this issue, and you want it to be the outcome you desire, you're gonna need much more conclusive evidence than what you guys in here 'just know.'
And when there is proof, you already have a recognized pattern of dismissing it or not believing it.
 
"no proof" outside the countless documents and his massive efforts to remove himself from the documents. If what is said is untrue, then why the effort to scrub his name? Why the effort to get people to "move on"? Why would an innocent man have gone through so much effort to censor documents that exposed one of the worst child sex trafficking rings currently known to the public? Why is he protecting these people? You can pretend this isn't all damning; I can't change that but I do find it disgusting that you are ignoring this stuff or so willing to dismiss it for whatever selfish reasons you have.

If you have to ask a bunch of speculative "why this if not that" questions and can't see that you don't have anything solid, I don't know what to tell you that I haven't already.

And when there is proof, you already have a recognized pattern of dismissing it or not believing it.

When and if there is any proof of these things, I will acknowledge it. Trouble is, what you call proof is mostly circumstantial suggestions for which there are multiple plausible explanations, and you choose to believe the option that damns Trump. I don't choose to believe any of the options, whether good or bad for Trump. I just know nothing solid has been proven, and we're supposed to have a justice system that assumes innocent until proven guilty.
 
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If you have to ask a bunch of speculative "why this if not that" questions and can't see that you don't have anything solid, I don't know what to tell you that I haven't already.
So you don't find Trump's actions nor the ever-increasing documentation of his crimes that seem to motivate his actions at all suspicious? Are you okay with Trump removing his name from the documents or telling people to "move on"?
Even if Trump is somehow magically innocent, how are you okay with everything else? Even if somehow everything turns out to be false about him and true about everyone else, how are you okay with him protecting those people? You do realize he had his people censor the names of pedophiles, right? He's also pushing for justice to NOT happen for the victims, even pushing for people to forget this all happened. Can you tell me that this is a line too far? That protecting serial pedophiles is a bad thing for Trump, can you agree to that? We can all agree that pedophilia is bad and protecting pedophiles is bad, yes?
 
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"suspicious"

Of course some of the stuff is suspicious. There are suspicious rumors circling around every politician. But suspicion isn't proof, or fact. Surely you have heard the old saying,"if you strike at the king, be certain to kill him." Unfortunately for Democrats they have fucked that rule wrt: Trump many times over, which is why I say you're going to need solid, undeniable proof. It's the boy who cried wolf principle in action.
 
Of course some of the stuff is suspicious. There are suspicious rumors circling around every politician. But suspicion isn't proof, or fact. Surely you have heard the old saying,"if you strike at the king, be certain to kill him." Unfortunately for Democrats they have fucked that rule wrt: Trump many times over, which is why I say you're going to need solid, undeniable proof. It's the boy who cried wolf principle in action.
That literally did not answer a single question beyond the first one. So you just ignored all of the stuff that damned Trump and circled it to somehow make this about the Democrats.
Are you okay with Trump removing his name from the documents or telling people to "move on"?
Even if Trump is somehow magically innocent, how are you okay with everything else? Even if somehow everything turns out to be false about him and true about everyone else, how are you okay with him protecting those people? You do realize he had his people censor the names of pedophiles, right? He's also pushing for justice to NOT happen for the victims, even pushing for people to forget this all happened. Can you tell me that this is a line too far? That protecting serial pedophiles is a bad thing for Trump, can you agree to that? We can all agree that pedophilia is bad and protecting pedophiles is bad, yes?
Address the rest, please
 
Of course some of the stuff is suspicious. There are suspicious rumors circling around every politician.
So every politician is mandating the FBI to hide their name in the Epstein files? If so, fire the entire Trump administration. It's Trump's FBI after all who are allowing it.
 
If you have to ask a bunch of speculative "why this if not that" questions and can't see that you don't have anything solid, I don't know what to tell you that I haven't already.



When and if there is any proof of these things, I will acknowledge it. Trouble is, what you call proof is mostly circumstantial suggestions for which there are multiple plausible explanations, and you choose to believe the option that damns Trump. I don't choose to believe any of the options, whether good or bad for Trump. I just know nothing solid has been proven, and we're supposed to have a justice system that assumes innocent until proven guilty.
Right but you were quick to believe that MN shooter last summer was a left winger because of their low effort false flag with the no kings flyers.

And you don't think Trump sexually assaulted E Jean Carol despite his losing the civil case and a judge clarifying that the action falls under the definition of rape.

And despite video evidence with multiple angles, you still think Renee Good was in the wrong.

Most people can come to a reasonable conclusion here with the Epstein files especially considering it's apparently not hyperbole to say Trump was mentioned a literal million times in them. What explanation could you possibly have for this?

Dude forget proof you're not even a reasonably intelligent person why are we wasting time with MAGA brains on this?

Unfortunately for Democrats they have fucked that rule wrt: Trump many times over, which is why I say you're going to need solid, undeniable proof. It's the boy who cried wolf principle in action.
Absolute nonsense we've been vindicated numerous times.
 
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