Valve is going after the living room gaming market once more, with the announcement earlier this month of the new Steam Machine. While we know that the small form factor device will aim to provide a console-like experience with SteamOS, Valve has clarified that the Steam Machine will be "a good deal" in the similarly-spec'd PC market, but not priced specifically to go up against consoles. Valve employee Pierre-Loup Griffais explained, "our goal is for it to be a good deal at that level of performance, and then, you have features that are actually really hard to build if you're making your own gaming PC from parts". He elaborated that a price is hard to lock down right now, due to a lot of fluctuating factors in the market.

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[VinsCool]

Great, so it will be even more expensive.

 

[NitroShell]

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Valve is going after the living room gaming market once more, with the announcement earlier this month of the new Steam Machine. While we know that the small form factor device will aim to provide a console-like experience with SteamOS, Valve has clarified that the Steam Machine will be "a good deal" in the similarly-spec'd PC market, but not priced specifically to go up against consoles. Valve employee Pierre-Loup Griffais explained, "our goal is for it to be a good deal at that level of performance, and then, you have features that are actually really hard to build if you're making your own gaming PC from parts". He elaborated that a price is hard to lock down right now, due to a lot of fluctuating factors in the market.

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[SecureBoot]

I thought this was already known from the media coverage. In any case, I don't think it's anything surprising. If they provide a similar value proposition to the steam deck, I think it will be successful

 

[Mama Dizzys]

surely this means it will also halve in price every year like pcs do, right?

 

[Costello]

I don't know why anyone thought this would cost less than a PC, since it's a PC ?

surely this means it will also halve in price every year like pcs do, right?

do they really now?

 

[YoureALoser]

I thought this was already known from the media coverage. In any case, I don't think it's anything surprising. If they provide a similar value proposition to the steam deck, I think it will be successful

Unlikely. It's already being falsely advertised as being something it isn't, a gaming pc. The gpu used is the equivalent of an overclocked 7400, so basically a 7400xt. That doesn't meet the minimum requirement for modern games. It definitely can not run modern AAA games at native 1080p while maintaining 30fps. It's being marketed as a gaming pc for your TV. That 540-720p image upscaled to 1080p just to maintain 30fps is going to look horrible on a TV. The lack of support for anti cheat. Linux being a terrible operating system for gaming if installing anything outside of Steam. It's literally hours of trial, error, & research for some games. Linux also waste storage by not properly uninstalling some games. It's a mediocre niche product. Only people buying it are people that want to support Valve, people that like to purchase niche devices (like the Steam Deck) & people not smart enough to know that it is a terrible deal.

 

[Noctosphere]

Like PCs, does that mean we will pay 1200$ for 1000$ worth of performance? Or 1000$ for 1000$ worth of performance?
I'm talking about Prebuilt VS Custom PCs

 

[NinStar]

I don't know why anyone thought this would cost less than a PC, since it's a PC ?

Because if it doesn't cost around the same price as consoles this entire thing will be pointless.

Being too expensive for console consumers to invest their money in, while simultaneously being too weak for existing PC users to be interested in is a death sentence.

 

[Xzi]

A PC with similar specs...depending on when they sourced the memory and where from, I'd guess around $800. Not gonna make too many people happy, but still a good option for those looking to upgrade an older rig or looking for less hassle with their first pre-built.

Because if it doesn't cost around the same price as consoles this entire thing will be pointless.

Being too expensive for console consumers to invest their money in, while simultaneously being too weak for existing PC users to be interested in is a death sentence.

It's more powerful than what 70% of Steam users currently have, so it brings up the baseline performance target for developers in that regard. They don't need to do console-level sales numbers, just like they didn't need to with the Steam Deck.

 

[whitesword7]

I mean… what do you expect?

just because you put all these PC parts into a black box it will suddenly become console price? must be a magical black box if that were the case

 

[Xzi]

I mean… what do you expect?

just because you put all these PC parts into a black box it will suddenly become console price? must be a magical black box if that were the case

Valve subsidized the price of the Steam Deck early on, so people expected them to do the same for the Steam Machine. It's just not nearly as feasible now, with the rising prices of virtually all PC components.

 

[ihaveahax]

One issue with pricing it like a console is because it literally is not a traditional console, it's not locked down. Valve can get away with some price cuts since they own the biggest PC gaming platform, but if they sell it for lower than the cost to manufacture, it'll be snatched up by lots of people who intend to use it for anything but playing Steam games. You can't do this with traditional consoles, which lock you into buying and playing games for their platform, this ensuring they will make a profit on game purchases.

 

[x65943]

I think that basically confirms a price tag of around $1000

 

[solitaire4eva]

Minimal no games $1,299 starting price. That's reasonable.

End of the day its nothing but a dual boot PC.

 

[SecureBoot]

Unlikely. It's already being falsely advertised as being something it isn't, a gaming pc. The gpu used is the equivalent of an overclocked 7400, so basically a 7400xt. That doesn't meet the minimum requirement for modern games. It definitely can not run modern AAA games at native 1080p while maintaining 30fps. It's being marketed as a gaming pc for your TV. That 540-720p image upscaled to 1080p just to maintain 30fps is going to look horrible on a TV. The lack of support for anti cheat. Linux being a terrible operating system for gaming if installing anything outside of Steam. It's literally hours of trial, error, & research for some games. Linux also waste storage by not properly uninstalling some games. It's a mediocre niche product. Only people buying it are people that want to support Valve, people that like to purchase niche devices (like the Steam Deck) & people not smart enough to know that it is a terrible deal.

Do you enjoy being this negative all the time or are forums just a fun outlet for you?

 

[Exnor]

Well thats going to be interesting.

 

[The Catboy]

I don't know why anyone thought this would cost less than a PC, since it's a PC ?

Literally this

 

[Kioku]

I’m starting at $800… their “70%” metric takes in to account the amount of people who game on office-grade hardware as well. So, that price point is fitting for what’s been touted.

 

[ZeroT21]

700 or 800 bucks would be minimum for these specs, and it's still a good deal for all the services being free without the need of a subscription for multiplayer, cloudsaves and whatnot