Tesla stock

[Foxi4]

Elon seems like a liability now but perhaps there is more to come

He has really turned me off from a Tesla I'll tell you that much

That’s fine, but you’re not buying a car, you’re buying stock. There are those who can effectively get a product from concept to market and those who cannot. Elon’s strong suit is finding useful, marketable innovations and building companies around them. He’s the type of person who doesn’t burden himself with what is, but rather with what could be, and that’s very valuable in the field of tech. Say what you will about the man himself, but he did change the landscape of EV’s, aerospace, online banking and communications over the course of two decades and he’ll likely continue to do so in other industries for as long as he lives.

 

[x65943]

That’s fine, but you’re not buying a car, you’re buying stock. There are those who can effectively get a product from concept to market and those who cannot. Elon’s strong suit is finding useful, marketable innovations and building companies around them. He’s the type of person who doesn’t burden himself with what is, but rather with what could be, and that’s very valuable in the field of tech. Say what you will about the man himself, but he did change the landscape of EV’s, aerospace, online banking and communications over the course of two decades and he’ll likely continue to do so in other industries for as long as he lives.

I agree he has done a lot of important things, I just think lately he went off the rails

For me at least, it remains to be seen whether he will continue to be useful or not

 

[lordofcombo]

Thats because of you american are not easy to please nor to impress.Garbage Tesla and iphones junk are worshipped outside the USA,its an icon status,it shows you have money and class to low esteem people.Teslas cars are very popular in china ,some pat of Europe and africa.Add the BS Musk keep feeding his investors about god knows what.

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That’s fine, but you’re not buying a car, you’re buying stock. There are those who can effectively get a product from concept to market and those who cannot. Elon’s strong suit is finding useful, marketable innovations and building companies around them. He’s the type of person who doesn’t burden himself with what is, but rather with what could be, and that’s very valuable in the field of tech. Say what you will about the man himself, but he did change the landscape of EV’s, aerospace, online banking and communications over the course of two decades and he’ll likely continue to do so in other industries for as long as he lives.

Online banking my ass,Paypal is no revolution.

 

[Xzi]

Elon seems like a liability now but perhaps there is more to come

He has really turned me off from a Tesla I'll tell you that much

He's obviously nothing more than a figurehead for Tesla, if he had anything to do with the company's day-to-day operations, it would've crumbled apart long ago. That said, only he could've designed something as fugly as the cybertruck, and boycotting his company is of course still the smart/ethical thing to do. There are tons of other EVs with better design and better quality control anyway, not that I'd recommend buying any new car in this economy.

 

[x65943]

He's obviously nothing more than a figurehead for Tesla, if he had anything to do with the company's day-to-day operations, it would've crumbled apart long ago. That said, only he could've designed something as fugly as the cybertruck, and boycotting his company is of course still the smart/ethical thing to do. There are tons of other EVs with better design and better quality control anyway, not that I'd recommend buying any new car in this economy.

I like the Chinese EVs, but I already have a car and 100% tariffs sooooo

We'll see

 

[Foxi4]

Online banking my ass,Paypal is no revolution.

PayPal, the result of a merger between Confinity and X.com, was a huge stepping stone in both standardising and democratising online finance for the Average Joe. It spun off a wholly separate branch of person-to-person banking that previously simply did not exist, not to mention simplifying online commerce. To suggest that it wasn’t revolutionary is plain ridiculous historical revisionism.

He's obviously nothing more than a figurehead for Tesla, if he had anything to do with the company's day-to-day operations, it would've crumbled apart long ago. That said, only he could've designed something as fugly as the cybertruck, and boycotting his company is of course still the smart/ethical thing to do. There are tons of other EVs with better design and better quality control anyway, not that I'd recommend buying any new car in this economy.

He’s the CEO. He de facto has the most to do with day-to-day operations. Him opening his inbox and replying to a couple e-mails moves more gears in the company structure than any action by any other employee. I know it’s super on-trend to hate on the guy all day, but the company simply wouldn’t exist without his input.

 

[x65943]

PayPal, the result of a merger between Confinity and X.com, was a huge stepping stone in both standardising and democratising online finance for the Average Joe. It spun off a wholly separate branch of person-to-person banking that previously simply did not exist, not to mention simplifying online commerce. To suggest that it wasn’t revolutionary is plain ridiculous historical revisionism.
He’s the CEO. He de facto has the most to do with day-to-day operations. Him opening his inbox and replying to a couple e-mails moves more gears in the company structure than any action by any other employee. I know it’s super on-trend to hate on the guy all day, but the company simply wouldn’t exist without his input.

"but the company simply wouldn’t exist without his input."

Yes, if they didn't pick a new head, but they would, and it would continue

It would probably just become another car company at that point like Ford or something and stop innovating unless they found another wacky guy with out there ideas

 

[Foxi4]

"but the company simply wouldn’t exist without his input."

Yes, if they didn't pick a new head, but they would, and it would continue

It would probably just become another car company at that point like Ford or something and stop innovating unless they found another wacky guy with out there ideas

It’s a figure of speech. Tesla *as we know it* would cease to exist under different leadership, as you say. One of the big players would aggressively pursue acquisition, at which point it’d become just another badge under the GM or one of the other marks of the beast, I’d wager. Buying technology is simply much more cost effective than building it from the ground up. Unfortunately that’d also mean an end to what I’d describe as risky, “Wild West” style innovation Musk’s ventures are known for - bigger boys have bigger liability.

 

[DarknessPlay3r]

Elon seems like a liability now but perhaps there is more to come

He has really turned me off from a Tesla I'll tell you that much

The more time that goes on the more I see anything he "gets going" starts out getting everyone hopeful for "this actually might not turn out to be shit!"

I remember a long time back before Tesla got of the ground thinking, maybe, just maybe he's going to actually make a positive change for the end consumer while being profitable and ground breaking (ex. Valve)

Then the Cybertruck, then all the shit about working on a Tesla compared to other vehicles comes to mind now.

I too, have really been turned off of much of anything he gets invested into simply because he is very good at presenting himself as though he is like Hawking, Telsa, Turing, or any other name who's contributions to society are just taken for granted but are how and why we enjoy all that we can and do today.

When he's the "funding" that funds those sorts of things, with his branding. I don't dislike the guy because it's popular, I dislike him because he could be making changes that will really be worth talking about with positivity when our futures becomes "history".

 

[x65943]

The more time that goes on the more I see anything he "gets going" starts out getting everyone hopeful for "this actually might not turn out to be shit!"

I remember a long time back before Tesla got of the ground thinking, maybe, just maybe he's going to actually make a positive change for the end consumer while being profitable and ground breaking (ex. Valve)

Then the Cybertruck, then all the shit about working on a Tesla compared to other vehicles comes to mind now.

I too, have really been turned off of much of anything he gets invested into simply because he is very good at presenting himself as though he is like Hawking, Telsa, Turing, or any other name who's contributions to society are just taken for granted but are how and why we enjoy all that we can and do today.

When he's the "funding" that funds those sorts of things, with his branding. I don't dislike the guy because it's popular, I dislike him because he could be making changes that will really be worth talking about with positivity when our futures becomes "history".

His role in SpaceX I imagine will be his legacy

Even if everything else fails from now on, the fact over half of all payloads in space right now came from his reusable rockets will leave an indelible mark on history

His EV innovation and the brain implant stuff I don't see going anywhere, and he squandered his lead on early self driving

 

[Xzi]

He’s the CEO.

In any other company that would just mean the guy who golfs six hours a day. For Elon it means he gets to spend eight hours a day in a K-hole.

Him opening his inbox and replying to a couple e-mails moves more gears in the company structure than any action by any other employee.

Yeah, I'm sure the memes he sends out really help boost productivity.

 

[SeltzerMist]

Yeah, I'm sure the memes he sends out really help boost productivity.

Whoops nvm

 

[lordofcombo]

His role in SpaceX I imagine will be his legacy

Even if everything else fails from now on, the fact over half of all payloads in space right now came from his reusable rockets will leave an indelible mark on history

His EV innovation and the brain implant stuff I don't see going anywhere, and he squandered his lead on early self driving

I think he has innovation here and there,my gripe is how MAGA neckbeard talks about him like he was the second coming of Christ.But then again seeing that they idolize Drump,im not surpised anymore...

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PayPal, the result of a merger between Confinity and X.com, was a huge stepping stone in both standardising and democratising online finance for the Average Joe. It spun off a wholly separate branch of person-to-person banking that previously simply did not exist, not to mention simplifying online commerce. To suggest that it wasn’t revolutionary is plain ridiculous historical revisionism.
He’s the CEO. He de facto has the most to do with day-to-day operations. Him opening his inbox and replying to a couple e-mails moves more gears in the company structure than any action by any other employee. I know it’s super on-trend to hate on the guy all day, but the company simply wouldn’t exist without his input.

i dunno know man,he didnt invent credit cards,people were buying using credit cards from amazon way before paypal.id argue that paypal is useless in the USA since most of you already have credit cards.and its actually more of a convenience for africans and south east asians that cant get a credit card easily.its just a way to store money outside credit cards.dunno about the revolution in that.BTW wh still use paypal besides ebay?

 

[Foxi4]

In any other company that would just mean the guy who golfs six hours a day. For Elon it means he gets to spend eight hours a day in a K-hole.

Yeah, I'm sure the memes he sends out really help boost productivity.

Oh, absolutely. One key decision can make or break a company. As for posting memes, it sure seems like the market is eating them up, so your critique of his management style is kind of immaterial.

i dunno know man,he didnt invent credit cards,people were buying using credit cards from amazon way before paypal.id argue that paypal is useless in the USA since most of you already have credit cards.and its actually more of a convenience for africans and south east asians that cant get a credit card easily.its just a way to store money outside credit cards.dunno about the revolution in that.BTW wh still use paypal besides ebay?

You’re right, democratising finance on a global scale with the use of the Internet is not revolutionary at all, writing a cheque and sending it by carrier pidgeon worked just as well. As for “who uses it”, it’s nigh on ubiquitous.

 

[m00k00]

Usually, a guy like Musk would be fired from any company. Tell me which companies are fine with drug-heads as their CEOs, but then Tesla isn't any company but a meme-stock by now, basically. The problem is that the company's board is stuffed with people personally affiliated with Musk, which would again not be tolerated in any company, but then again: it's Tesla. Musk even sexually harassed employees and never had to suffer any consequences (they even paid a huge amount for settling the case against him). All of this is such a huge red flag that usually no one would invest in such a company, but then again: it's a meme-stock. I for myself would never invest my private fortune into a company run by Musk ... the bubble will burst eventually and you can be sure that Musk will cash out before this happens. He doesn't give a shit about the investors, otherwise he would have stepped down a long time ago.

 

[Xzi]

Oh, absolutely. One key decision can make or break a company.

From someone who's actually a key figure in the company, sure. If Elon was one of those people, his drug addiction would've broken the company long ago.

As for posting memes, it sure seems like the market is eating them up, so your critique of his management style is kind of immaterial.

The market is fully aware that his role in the company is inconsequential. Investors just want him pacified, quiet, and out of the way. Like a cat whose litter costs billions of dollars.

Seriously, can you imagine being so useless that even the Trump administration can't find any good reason to keep you around? This government has worked for roughly twelve days out of the last four months.

 

[Foxi4]

From someone who's actually a key figure in the company, sure. If Elon was one of those people, his drug addiction would've broken the company long ago.

The market is fully aware that his role in the company is inconsequential. Investors just want him pacified, quiet, and out of the way. Like a cat whose litter costs billions of dollars.

Seriously, can you imagine being so useless that even the Trump administration can't find any good reason to keep you around? This government has worked for roughly twelve days out of the last four months.

This is ridiculously myopic. The world’s wealthiest companies used fo run almost entirely on cocaine. Arguably they were better back then, too.

 

[Xzi]

This is ridiculously myopic. The world’s wealthiest companies used fo run almost entirely on cocaine. Arguably they were better back then, too.

If the job was just running booze or protection rackets, sure, and even then only in the short term. Long-term reliance on hard drugs is always a recipe for creating broken, burnt-out, and useless men. Not to mention his addiction to posturing on social media, which wastes more time on top of that.

 

[Vixi]

What is keeping the stock price afloat?

The cult.

Musk doesn't exactly have pals in DC anymore - who keeps buying?

Cultists.

 

[Foxi4]

If the job was just running booze or protection rackets, sure, and even then only in the short term. Long-term reliance on hard drugs is always a recipe for creating broken, burnt-out, and useless men. Not to mention his addiction to posturing on social media, which wastes more time on top of that.

A quote comes to mind: “if you’re so smart then why aren’t you rich?” - it is evergreen. I’ll have no badmouthing of coke, CEO’s gotta go fast.