ICE Arrests US Citizen

[chrisrlink]

basicly if your white you're pretty much off ice's radar i swear i'm just gonna fuck with them on the next census if they add the question are you a legal citizen? ice come knocking i'd just present my birth cirtificate and say "thank you for confirming my theory"

 

[emigre]

This is literally the point of detention. It's to further investigate potential crime. If they find you have commited a crime you get charged.
If they find you haven't you get released.

Are you stupid?

There's this thing called due process. It's this thing which is to prevent abuse and corruption.

Are you a bootlicker?

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

There's this thing called due process. It's this thing which is to prevent abuse and corruption.

Are you a bootlicker?

Ok? You can still detain people for suspected crimes.

A cop can pull you over and detain you if they suspect you ran a red light even if you didn't. You'll still get your due process.

 

[Skv0ra]

Ok? You can still detain people for suspected crimes.

A cop can pull you over and detain you if they suspect you ran a red light even if you didn't. You'll still get your due process.

No, they canNOT detain you without proof of a crime committed.

Details, fucking, matter.

Pops can keep following you trying to get you to slip up and then try to add on running a red light, but if they don't have it recorded or witnessed that you ran that red light - good luck law enforcement cuck.

Why do you think they tail mofos and run the plates? To check for registration and any priors the name on it may have.

 

[emigre]

Ok? You can still detain people for suspected crimes.

A cop can pull you over and detain you if they suspect you ran a red light even if you didn't. You'll still get your due process.

I dunno about US law but where I live, people can't be just be detained for suspected crimes. They have to tell you what you're being arrested for. Here you got a guy arrested by ICE for being an illegal but is actually a citizen but remains detained and apparently potentially be sent to a detention center. This shit doesn't fly if you believe in basic civil liberties.

 

[DiscostewSM]

Ok? You can still detain people for suspected crimes.

A cop can pull you over and detain you if they suspect you ran a red light even if you didn't. You'll still get your due process.

Pretty sure wearing a Chicago Bulls hat is not considered suspicious for detainment. If it was, then all those people wearing MAGA hats should have been detained, starting with Trump.

 

[Hanafuda]

I'm glad it all got cleared up and he was released. He can probably sue for wrongful detainment, make some money. It's a good thing he didn't make a youtube video that was critical of Islam. That shit gets you blamed for tragic US govt. strategic errors and lands your ass in prison.

 

[DiscostewSM]

I'm glad it all got cleared up and he was released. He can probably sue for wrongful detainment, make some money. It's a good thing he didn't make a youtube video that was critical of Islam. That shit gets you blamed for tragic US govt. strategic errors and lands your ass in prison.

He was released? Finally? Last thing I read was that he was moved to a "better" prison, so an actual release is good.

 

[Hanafuda]

He was released?

Since Thursday.

 

[m00k00]

He was released? Finally? Last thing I read was that he was moved to a "better" prison, so an actual release is good.

This thread is not about Kilmar Abrego Garcia who is the guy who got moved into a "better" prison in El Salvador. Garcia is no US Citizen, but was a legal immigrant to the US until the Trump administration said "fuck it, let's remove this guy from US soil..."

This thread is about Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez, as far as I can tell.

I cannot really blame you, though. There's too many innocent people fucked by the ICE recently.

 

[Hanafuda]

There's this thing called due process. It's this thing which is to prevent abuse and corruption.

Are you a bootlicker?

What, in your understanding, does due process entail? Because all a law enforcement officer needs to detain a person is "reasonable articulable suspicion." And all a law enforcement officer needs to arrest you (i.e. take you into custody) is "probable cause" to believe you committed the crime for which you're being arrested. The officer can be wrong, so long as he/she acts in good faith belief.

Due process involves the right to a hearing, where the person who was arrested/charged with a crime has an opportunity to require proof.

This particular case involves some unusual facts. The guy they arrested was born in the USA, but lived nearly his entire life in Mexico. Does he have a SS#? Did he ever attend US schools? Does he have a driver's license? Does he hold a legit job (which would require the SS#) or was he working under the table? If he has basically no footprint of living as a citizen, it's not really shocking that he was suspected of being undocumented. That birth certificate would be "on record" only in the county where he was born.

Also the detention order on the guy was Federal, meaning the local judge he was in front of did not have jurisdiction to release him just because his mom showed up with a birth certificate. So it's not as outrageous that he wasn't immediately released when the birth certificate was shown as its being described in the press. He got out, once it was all sorted. And I hope he sues them over it.

 

[Citizen_404]

I watched a documentary about this!



Hard to believe, but the satire of 40 years ago is now the reality of today...

 

[Sicklyboy]

And I hope he sues them over it.

What a productive use of US taxpayer dollars, eh?

 

[Hanafuda]

What a productive use of US taxpayer dollars, eh?

Shit happens. There arent enough fingers and toes in Congress to count all the lawsuits against the United States at any given time. And I'm not talking just in 2025.

 

[Xzi]

Shit happens.

Quite often for that matter, when you put shitheads in charge of everything. Taxpayer money being wasted from bottom to top.

 

[Skv0ra]

What, in your understanding, does due process entail? Because all a law enforcement officer needs to detain a person is "reasonable articulable suspicion." And all a law enforcement officer needs to arrest you (i.e. take you into custody) is "probable cause" to believe you committed the crime for which you're being arrested. The officer can be wrong, so long as he/she acts in good faith belief.

Due process involves the right to a hearing, where the person who was arrested/charged with a crime has an opportunity to require proof.

This particular case involves some unusual facts. The guy they arrested was born in the USA, but lived nearly his entire life in Mexico. Does he have a SS#? Did he ever attend US schools? Does he have a driver's license? Does he hold a legit job (which would require the SS#) or was he working under the table? If he has basically no footprint of living as a citizen, it's not really shocking that he was suspected of being undocumented. That birth certificate would be "on record" only in the county where he was born.

And with body cams being mandatory these days, all such suspicious accusations are RECORDED and they radio shit in first, for if they do NOT - that's the American Dream lawsuit coming riiiiight up.

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Quite often for that matter, when you put shitheads in charge of everything. Taxpayer money being wasted from bottom to top.

It has been, DECADES since there wasn't a shithead "elected" into our office..... Just nowadays all the bullshit isn't being covered up by a bloated rug despite visual media dominating showcasing absolutely every move and sneeze anyone important does. That's the real wild part. They're just openly taunting us now knowing we "won't" do anything/stretching that boundary by the day.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

I dunno about US law but where I live, people can't be just be detained for suspected crimes. They have to tell you what you're being arrested for. Here you got a guy arrested by ICE for being an illegal but is actually a citizen but remains detained and apparently potentially be sent to a detention center. This shit doesn't fly if you believe in basic civil liberties.

The shy guy who isn't really shy is supposed to be from Britain like you and me...

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there wasn't a shithead "elected" into our office

Not every shithead is equal

 

[Jayro]

In the US you aren't legally required to have an ID on your person in most situations.

Uh... No.

In public spaces, you are absolutely 100% required to have your I.D. card or driver's license on you, at all times. Or your passport. Or military I.D. Something that can prove who you say you are.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Really? There is an obligation to carry? Also to show if police officer asks?

 

[AkikoKumagara]

Uh... No.

In public spaces, you are absolutely 100% required to have your I.D. card or driver's license on you, at all times. Or your passport. Or military I.D. Something that can prove who you say you are.

Not true in my state (unless you're operating a motor vehicle or buying alcohol).

These are the states where you should always carry an ID on your person, as you may be liable to prove your identity: