Trump leads Kamala in nearly every swing state [Update: Trump wins the 2024 election]

[smilodon]

Respectfully, look what your idol has done to the economy

Looks pretty much in line with every countries these past years.

 

[Cranesbill]

Looks pretty much in line with every countries these past years.

So what? Just because every country suffers as much, it means we still gotta support the man? We're the powerhouse of the world, if we fall under, so does everyone else who's been following our steps

 

[Xzi]

Respectfully, look what your idol has done

Respectfully, look what your idol has done to the economy

"January of first year in office versus July of last year in office." What kind of useless cherry-picked stat is that? Trump left office with the worst economy we've had since GWB crashed it, Biden has spent his entire term cleaning up that mess.

 

[Hanafuda]

Average unemployment rate under Trump- 6.4%
Average unemployment rate under Biden- 4.1%
Factcheck.org

You should know by now that once someone goes neet, homeless, or for whatever reason stops trying to find work, they no longer are accounted for in unemployment stats. Fact remains, when there were 661,000 new jobs at this time in 2020, the press said "only 661,000" and "disappointing report." The report for last month shows 12,000 new jobs. That's it. And an actual negative showing in private sector. But in the media of course, mostly crickets.

 

[Cranesbill]

"January of first year in office versus July of last year in office." What kind of useless cherry-picked stat is that? Trump left office with the worst economy we've had since GWB crashed it, Biden has spent his entire term cleaning up that mess.

Numbers don't lie, mate

 

[BigOnYa]

You should know by now that once someone goes neet, homeless, or for whatever reason stops trying to find work, they no longer are accounted for in unemployment stats. Fact remains, when there were 661,000 new jobs at this time in 2020, the press said "only 661,000" and "disappointing report." The report for last month shows 12,000 new jobs. That's it. And an actual negative showing in private sector. But in the media of course, mostly crickets.

Duh, there's no new jobs because unemployment is low.

 

[Hanafuda]

Duh, there's no new jobs because unemployment is low.

If economics is your hobby, don't quit yer day job.

 

[Xzi]

Numbers don't lie, mate

They absolutely do if they're manipulated, you can make statistics say whatever you want. When Trump left office, we had a 14.7% unemployment rate, and his economy eliminated more jobs in total than it created in four years. IIRC that hadn't happened for more than half a century.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

if there were no excuses for grown adults half ur comments wouldnt even exist. hate is hate any way u want to put it. i dont see them doing anything hateful.

And you wouldn't at all.

 

[BigOnYa]

If economics is your hobby, don't quit yer day job.

Its kinda, I own a electrical contractor business with 21 employees. Been in business for over 20 years.

 

[mrmagicm]

@BigOnYa So easy to respond, 3 FACTS
- :By who were made those fake charges? Also, why didn't he go to jail? So Small to No real proof each time, I'm saying this, I'm not in the US Country.....It's how it's seen from the outside.
- ALso, as Said, It's better to vote for a True american american than a Trojan that have done nothing during it's reign but make immigration coming to your country making it worse and worse, with all the drawback, do you REALLY thinks it's a good thing??? Been from Europe, I can tell you are an imbecile, it will make it worse and might make millions of Americans dying in the next war, because women are not made to take good decision in war, they are only good to make it avoided, but If you can't avoid it, your face will go in the bloody wall.
- So many countries hate American people, I don't, I just love this country, but has I feel it, some americans like you like digging your own grave, do you think you been a billionnaire would make you want to rule a country for fun? Trump is just doing it for fame and Ego. There are numbers and statistics, I can tell you your country was far better off when rule by Trump that when it was the Biden Team (Kamala harris making stupid decisions within this specific Team). No one really responded to the arguments have given before because nothing considering the origin of Kamala Harris is a Good thing, Except if you would vote for an Irakian, Russian or North Korean for Ruling YOUR country. Of course, as many of you here have another origin than true american from 2 to 3 generations, you stay all a lot in this forum Saying to vote for her
On my side, I only insist on this because I like how america was 40 years Ago, it was a wonderful dream when I live there with my family for a bit more than a year but then came back to Europe, because migrants are suppose to come back to their country one day for not fucking the world out, if one day, there is a "small" dreamland, do you think all Humanity is suppose to stay on this one place? God has put us in a specific place at the beginning, and that's were we are supposed to stay.

 

[Cranesbill]

They absolutely do if they're manipulated

Democrats control most of the media, and they're biased towards them because it generates more revenue

When Trump left office, we had a 14.7% unemployment rate

THERE WAS A FUCKING PANDEMIC,

and his economy eliminated more jobs in total than it created in four years. IIRC that hadn't happened for more than half a century.

I don't know what that means, so Ima just let you win on that

 

[Xzi]

Democrats control most of the media, and they're biased towards them because it generates more revenue

Not true, almost all billionaires are watching out for their own wallets first and foremost, and Trump promises them tax cuts. The lone holdout of Democrat-controlled media is MSNBC. CNN, NYT, and WaPo, among others, have all been sanewashing Trump this election cycle. In any case, posting your own biased/manipulated statistics isn't helping matters.

THERE WAS A FUCKING PANDEMIC,

Which is something that any competent administration would've been prepared for, there had been warnings from experts of an upcoming pandemic since the late 2000s. The Obama administration even left Trump with a national pandemic response team, which he axed within the first few months. The blood is on Trump's hands for the excess deaths, and I'm being generous when I say there were only half a million of them.

I don't know what that means, so Ima just let you win on that

It means there were fewer jobs in the economy when he left office than there were when he took office. The first three years he did not create any impactful economic policy, he was just coasting off the Obama economy. When things went sideways with the pandemic, he had no fucking clue how to manage the economy or anything else.

 

[BigOnYa]

- :By who were made those fake charges? Also, why didn't he go to jail? So Small to No real proof each time, I'm saying this, I'm not in the US Country.....It's how it's seen from the outside
- ALso, as Said, It's better to vote for a True american american than a Trojan that have done nothing during it's reign but make immigration coming to your country making it worse and worse, with all the drawback, do you REALLY thinks it's a good thing??? Been from Europe, I can tell you are an imbecile, it will make it worse and might make millions of Americans dying in the next war, because women are not made to take good decision in war, they are only good to make it avoided, but If you can't avoid it, your face will go in the bloody wall.
- So many countries hate American people, I don't, I just love this country, but has I feel it, some americans like you like digging your own grave, do you think you been a billionnaire would make you want to rule a country for fun? Trump is just doing it for fame and Ego. There are numbers and statistics, I can tell you your country was far better off when rule by Trump that when it was the Biden Team (Kamala harris making stupid decisions within this specific Team). No one really responded to the arguments have given before because nothing considering the origin of Kamala Harris is a Good thing, Except if you would vote for an Irakian, Russian or North Korean for Ruling YOUR country. Of course, as many of you here have another origin than true american from 2 to 3 generations, you stay all a lot in this forum Saying to vote for her
On my side, I only insist on this because I like how america was 40 years Ago, it was a wonderful dream when I live there with my family for a bit more than a year but then came back to Europe, because migrants are suppose to come back to their country one day for not fucking the world out, if one day, there is a "small" dreamland, do you think all Humanity is suppose to stay on this one place? God has put us in a specific place at the beginning, and that's were we are supposed to stay.

1- "Fake charges" that's pretty funny. It was a real courtroom, and real charges, not fake. He should be in jail, any normal citizen doing the things he has done would be in jail.
2- I never claimed I was voting for "a woman" as you say. I'm independent. I just can't stand a liar and a cheat= Trump.
3- Ok.

 

[Cranesbill]

Not true, almost all billionaires are watching out for their own wallets first and foremost, and Trump promises them tax cuts. The lone holdout of Democrat-controlled media is MSNBC. CNN, NYT, and WaPo, among others, have all been sanewashing Trump this election cycle. In any case, posting your own biased/manipulated statistics isn't helping matters.

Yeah and their only source of evidence is that one clip of Trump saying "You're rich as hell" then cuts to him saying "We're gonna give you tax cuts"

Which is something that any competent administration would've been prepared for, there had been warnings from experts of an upcoming pandemic since the late 2000s. The Obama administration even left Trump with a national pandemic response team, which he axed within the first few months. The blood is on Trump's hands for the excess deaths, and I'm being generous when I say there were only half a million of them.

Eh, Obama was decent 7/10 his healthcare was ass though

It means there were fewer jobs in the economy when he left office than there were when he took office. The first three years he did not have any impactful economic policy, he was just coasting off the Obama economy. When things went sideways with the pandemic, he had no fucking clue how to manage the economy or anything else.

Thank you

 

[DiscostewSM]

THERE WAS A FUCKING PANDEMIC,

The pandemic didn't end Jan 2021, so why is it okay to blame the pandemic on Trump's statistics, but not Biden's? Want to know why oil prices are so high? You can thank Trump for his negotiations in 2020 with OPEC providers like Saudi Arabia to cut back production.

 

[BlazeHeatnix]

Respectfully, look what your idol has done to the economy

The country's top economists warned that the price increases were inevitable after the pandemic period. Companies drove up pricing due to increased demand and less-than-ideal supply. Several other factors contributing to the rising prices were in place long before Biden took office, because the pandemic fucked the global supply chain. Conservatives decided to blame everything on Biden's stimulus checks, because they're an easy scapegoat.

 

[Taleweaver]

are u leading by example? i agree with you there before 2015 there was never as much hate and trump started the mr poo poo head mudslinging. but to say that one side has acted respectfully when the other hasnt is just a complete joke. shame on both sides.

what about deplorables and garbage?

Congratulations: you had to go back 8 years and two candidates that aren't running, just to cherry pick two examples of democrats 'spreading hate' .
Meanwhile, Trump threatened to have Liz Cheney shot,wants jack Smith deported and refers to immigrants as criminals... In the last week.

Not exactly in the same league, isn't it?
Edit: on top of that... Biden's comment was misinterpreted. The literal quote:
“The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters's demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American.”

I won't deny it's a very poorly worded sentence, especially when read aloud, but it's a far shot from 'they're spreading hate'
Source:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/01/white-house-altered-biden-transcript-00186762

 

[Xzi]

Yeah and their only source of evidence is that one clip of Trump saying "You're rich as hell" then cuts to him saying "We're gonna give you tax cuts"

He already cut taxes on the rich in his first term. That's one of the few things he would never lie about, because he's a narcissist and it's also beneficial to him personally.

Eh, Obama was decent 7/10 his healthcare was ass though

Obama wanted a single-payer healthcare system, what we ended up with instead was a compromise with Republicans. The one very positive thing the ACA did, however, was prevent insurance companies from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions, and now Trump wants to remove even that protection from Americans. Took him nearly a decade to come up with the, "concept of a (healthcare) plan," which translated means that he has no plan at all.

 

[Cranesbill]

The pandemic didn't end Jan 2021, so why is it okay to blame the pandemic on Trump's statistics, but not Biden's? Want to know why oil prices are so high? You can thank Trump for his negotiations in 2020 with OPEC providers like Saudi Arabia to cut back production.

I don't know, I was 14 at the time

Oil prices weren't that high until the war with Ukraine, then I remember seeing gas prices went from 2.10 to 3.23 in just 2 weeks