Vaping

I basically just want to sit here and clear up some misconceptions that people may have about vaping.

Firstly Nicotine is not a carcinogen. Yes it can be used as a poison and in large quantities is poisonous, but by the same logic drinking water in large quantities will kill you. Yes you have to be careful with E-liquids whether your just using them or making your own liquids.

So what are Eliquid made of ?

Well there are 4/5 main components of E-liquids you have the Nicotine that we already talked out Propylene Glycol and Vegetable Glycerin both of these are used in our day to day lives and are completely safe. The only bone of contention that people can have possibly with colouring and flavoring.

Yes there are a lot of unscrupulous people out there that will just just throw anything in to make a profit and this is where the problem lies. Some clourings and flavorings are absolutely fine when ingested, but not so much when they are used in vape, but as long as you but reputable brands of eliquid, not to mention reputable sellers ( or make your own ) then you shouldn't have a problem.

Now there is a big elephant in the room and that's these guys who make huge plumes of smoke. I have no problem doing it in private or in a large open space but when your doing it walking down the streets your just giving other vapers a bad name.

If you have any questions I will do my best to answer them for you but bare in mind i'm not a chemist or biologist and all my knowledge comes from independent research done over many years
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But as she tries to smoke her cigarette she notices the smell of the vape has permeated all her clothes, this strong nauseating smell makes her cough her cigarette away. She tries to reach for it, but the coughing is incapacitating. Swiftly she removes all her clothes and runs away from the smell, but it has already settled in upon her skin, the damn revolting smell is unbearable. Notwithstanding the cold winds of an early fall, she jumps into the Clyde... the stench of the Clyde is nothing to write home about, but for a first time she welcomes it as it impregnates her skin. As the vape stench fades away she regains her composure, but now she is naked freezing down in the middle of the river, she keeps afloat but she knows she won't be able to reach the riverbank. Then she notices a group of loud youngsters passing by on a boat, a godsend she think... but as they approach she once again smells that horrible stench and considers freezing down to death in the Clyde doesn't sounds like such a bad way to pass away anymore...
 
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To be fair it wouldn't be the first time I have been naked in the Clyde but that is a story for another day lol.
 
I think vaping is just silly, and will always refer to the little boxes as "douche flutes"... but they smell far better than tobacco... I'll give you that much. I'd rather walk down the street and get a whiff of cotton candy, than some nasty eye-burning cigarette smoke. So for me, vaping is a double-edged sword. It smells far better, but you still look like a complete tool and douchebag while using it.
 
At the end of the day there are 2 type of people who vape. Those who use it to replace cigarettes and people who think its cool to make huge clouds and piss everyone off. Sadly the bastards in the latter group give everyone who vapes a bad name.

It's pretty much the same as these 'gamers' who think its ok to send death threats to devs - the media picks up and it and all gamers are tarred with the same brush as the minority
 
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I just dont get it I would never blow cigarette smoke in someone's face yet its ok for the vape wankers to inflict a huge cloud of horrible germs into mine lol.
 
@AmandaRose Yeah ... i don't do that ... mainly because i'm not a complete twat faced bastard
 
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It doesn't matter. Vape is bad, period! Our lung are not design to inhale any smokes in it. NONE!
 
@HolyPepa You don't have to believe random people or your friends, ask your doctor, they are generally well informed and many of them have seen first hand the health benefits switching from smoking over to vaping has had on people.
 
@azoreseuropa It's not smoke, it's vapor, something we inhale on a regular basis anyway whether we mean to or not because water vapor is all around us. Now in this case it isn't water (whether it is more harmful than water vapor is a topic up for debate but so far there have been no signs suggesting so), but by your logic we should all be dead from all the water vapor we inhale from the humidity in the air.
 
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@HolyPepa It's always important to remember while vaping is safer than smoking, it's not 100% and we still don't really know that long term effects. For all we know right now if you vape for 20 years straight you turn into a pumpkin. As I think I have said before in this thread, the problem isn't really with the base mix (PG/VG/Nic) it's the flavouring. Although it is tested safe for consumption ( i.e. in cakes and candy) they have never had testing for being inhaled and may cause "Popcorn Lung", I say MAY because the research that is going on with vaping currently is pretty much either bias, backed by big Tabacco who are struggling to get into the market or just not up to an acceptable standard.

When it all comes down to it and we boil things right down, It's your choice. As long as your not an arsehole about it. By this I mean as long as your not causing problems for other people and are using it responsibly. It absolutely your life and you can live it any way you want. If you want to go and put half of Columbia up your nose on a Friday night, as long as you're not starting fights or committing crime to fund the habit no one has any right on how to live your life.
 
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I just wanted to pop back into these comments (first commented back on page one).
Brief re-itteration; switched from smoking to vaping after having survived cancer back in 2010, I'm still vaping, never get the urge to smoke anymore (just smelling cigarette's these days makes me feel ill - and that includes the lingering smell on peoples clothing, which I never even noticed when I was a smoker), I still have regular appointments with the medical departments that got me through my cancer treatments and surgeries and they are more than pleased that I replaced smoking with vaping. The only concern they ever bring up with regards vaping is that it can contribute to gum disease (in the same way smoking does, but to a far lesser extreme)... but my gums are pretty much fucked anyway due to radiotherapy, so I have a pretty rigorous oral health regime that I have to abide by that kind of negates a lot of those concerns.
tl;dr, UK NHS condone my vaping where they would never condone smoking.
Here's a new article that came out this week... https://www.vampirevape.co.uk/blog/...ource=Newsletter&dm_i=5CG6,8LML,282YV1,Y3QE,1
 
In case no one has mentioned it, nicotine, in the form of nicotinic acid, is used most often as a weed killer, by many larger companies which we've all heard their ads on Saturday morning at some point... feel free to check your store labels. In concentrated doses, it was also used on some farms for poisoning small plant/crop damaging animals, now considered cruel, replaced by traps.
 
Looks like they erred on the side of caution. Also they're defining a shot as 45ml, while a European shot is 30ml, so there's a difference. The LD50 dose is 6 grams per kilogram of body weight, so do the math from there. Bear in mind this is the average, and tolerances vary.
 

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