The G̶u̶l̶f̶ Gay Stream, or How to Get Half a City to Hate Gays in One Day

@MadMageKefka tbh i cant stand sjw, and can see how my comment may make you think i was, ew, one of them. Anyway, my comment seemed a bit rude, but you gotta admit, that last part of her blog is open for interpetration. Perhaps, if she wouldnt have made that comment, the blog would be perfectly fine and understanable.

You also have to admit that, and also trying to avoid sounding like an sjw, that it still gets you on the nerve when people make a big deal over this thing of stuff, even more when they make an emphasis on the participating group. At least here, people are still pretty shit and hostile about lgbt people, and when you are someone who is quiet and always keeps his mouth shout in public, it makes you feel horrible on the inside to the point of making you depressed for months, years.... to this day...

Forgive me for that reply, but please, you gotta also be a little bit more open about interpretations. I was not the only one here getting that impression.

@MadMageKefka
Making jokes about straight people is not the same as literally having your life threatened every time you walk outside. There is no current oppression on straight people. You are basically saying, "Hey, my feelings were hurt and that's completely the same as you not being allowed to marry someone."
I've already said that it's ok for them to hold an event, but that doesn't change the nature of them. I can disagree all I want with them, but I am not going to stop them as that would actually violate their rights. I also said that a Blacks only graduation actually isn't a good thing and is actually segregation. Separating them for their special graduation is actually putting one group over another based purely on their race. It would be wrong to do the same thing with an LGBT only, straight only, white only, etc. graduation as it's the the complete opposite of equality and only says this group is more special than others.

@DeslotlCL - We all make snide comments directed at people when annoyed, I think. With what I said before, I think the problem was that this specific remark hit home for you, so it got your attention. I think you'd care a lot less if say, this were a marathon and they made a snide comment about athletics.

As far as the hate goes, well, you're not going to be able to avoid that in this case, I'm afraid. Or, at least that's what I believe. When dealing with LGBT issues you are also dealing with the act of sex, and that's something that can very easily make people uncomfortable. When people get uncomfortable, they can get hostile. It's also very difficult to draw the line for what is and isn't okay. I unfortunately think this is an issue that humanity will never completely solve. As they say, you can't make everyone happy.

@Lilith Valentine - I think that's a bit dramatic, for USA at least. No one is threatening your life daily for who you are, and if they are, maybe you should consider that you are possibly not a great person, or that the person(s) threatening you aren't? Bigotry will always exist, unfortunately. I was also mentioning people who's lives and careers were ruined due to "jokes," so in a sense that is having your life threatened. If you are talking about the past, then I already stated I'm not even coming close to trying to compare then to now. Completely different game.

I also understand you are not saying straights aren't allowed to have a rally. I'm not saying otherwise. You are saying they are redundant; pointless. I am giving you examples of reasons I would consider "a point," even if it's in a mocking tone. Just because you don't like the point doesn't mean that one isn't there.

EDIT: I also wanted to add there are most definitely hate groups for straights as well. They even have their own ridiculous hate words like "breeders." People will hate anything. We are too diverse and opinionated as a species not to.

@MadMageKefka
It was an intentional exaggeration of the situation to prove a point. Although the LGBT (especially trans) does have a higher risk of being assaulted.

They are still redundant, the points you bought up doesn't make them not redundant. Your reasons are basically "Hey, my feels were hurt before!" Which I guess can be a reason for them to exist, but it's an extremely petty reason. I'm sorry if I don't consider these reasons to really be that concerning, but they aren't. Jokes about straight people have never effected their life in any manor and I don't see that as even remotely equal to the years of oppression that the LGBT has gone through. I am not disagreeing that these "issues" can be address, but that doesn't really make them anything other than petty.

Can we all agree that we need to all get along and have a good time?

I know what we need. A music festival! With good beers!

I really wouldn't be upset if the main street was locked for it

To be fair, depending on when you get in on it that's kind of what Pride is already

@Viri I know it's satire but holy shit my sides hurt from laughing at this "artwork"

@Lilith Valentine - So because of the past, people should be annoying and draw attention to themselves in the name of pride now? I don't understand that at all. There is no way that past effects you directly. As for "more prone to assault." you're mistaken. What about a straight, ugly, nerdy kid in school? Plenty of that stereotype are straight as an arrow, yet still get bullied / assaulted. If you honestly mean horrid acts like fagdrags, lyncings, or anything else of the sort, those are a thing of the past. That is NOT a normal thing in modern society here, and I'm pretty sure no person without severe mental issues really fears that. Anyone who even thought of such vile acts would be dealt with swiftly in today's world.

Now, in some areas of the world things like that are still very real, and that's a problem, sure, but also not the issue at hand. The problem is in USA, these groups tend to have large concentrations of people who are very "Look at me, my feelings were hurt. I don't feel safe because people say mean things." much like you are accusing me of now. The fact that you responded as such shows that you get my point without even realizing it. The point is that that mentality is very self centered, and no one cares. The world hates everyone, not just one particular group. No one is special. Gays aren't being dragged into the streets and murdered. It's not nearly as severe as you seem to be claiming. Gay pride rallies are just as pointless as straight ones.

@MadMageKefka
Not everyone agrees with the group of people going out of their way to be annoying. In fact most people would much rather there not be a group of overly sexual, overly loud, and annoying members of the LGBT because they always send the worst image. Obviously people should be happy that they can express themselves and that's part of progress. Finally being able to walk outside openly and being yourself is something to be proud of and that's part of Pride. At the same time there are still people who over do it and it is what it is.
Actually we have anti-bullying campaigns and October is National Bullying prevention month. Stereotypes exist, yeah? I don't get how that's an issue that a Straight Pride parade would fix, if anything it would prove the stereotype that straight people want an equal attention cake.

Actually in some countries they are being dragged out into the streets and killed. Just last year a trans woman was literally dragged from her home and beaten to death in Brazil and most of the event was recorded. That's just one example I can think of right off the top of my head. In the US the President literally tried to tweet military rights away for trans people and rolled back several LGBT protection laws that were put into place by Obama. Those are just the actions of the president and not even addressing state related issues that have been happening/talked about. Just because we aren't being killed in droves anymore doesn't mean we aren't facing any issues. You are basically equating straight people having jokes told about them to actual issues. LGBT rights are always being debated and always being threaten, more so at state level than federal level. These are issues that simply don't exist for straight people and never will exist for them. There's no comparing issues that heterosexuals face to what the LGBT faces.

@Lilith Valentine
"I don't get how that's an issue that a Straight Pride parade would fix"
How does a gay pride event fix anything?

"Actually in some countries they are being dragged out into the streets and killed."
I've said numerous times we are talking about USA here. Getting involved in other cultures is none of our business. That's how wars start.

"In the US the President literally tried to tweet military rights away for trans people and rolled back several LGBT protection laws that were put into place by Obama."
Unfortunately, there is no easy solution to this. The fact of the matter is that sharing bunks / showers / whatever with some of those people, makes some people uncomfortable. They have every right to not have to feel that way, just like anyone else. Men and women don't share showers, bathrooms, or anything else of that nature. This problem here gets insanely complicated, and no one has any good answer to it. You can't simply say "well they need to just deal with it." So what? Do men and women need to shower together too and "just deal with it?" As I said earlier to DeslotICL, this is a problem that will never be completely solved, and you can't make everyone happy.

As for other political issues... like what? Gay marriage? Just move somewhere that allows it. Wanna protest anti gay marriage laws in your state? Go for it. But that's not what pride rallies are about. It's not a political statement, it's a "look at me, I'm special," statement. P-Town has tons of pride rallies, and you can't even begin to claim they are oppressed there.

There are better ways to go about these things than flooding the streets with rainbows and men in skirts. Now I know that you said that even most of the LGBT community doesn't like those overly loud types for very obvious reasons. I get that, but that's exactly my point. Things like that happening are exactly what's stopping progress, and the less annoying groups need a way to show the world that the majority are not like that, if they really want to get a message out. Having more pride rallies is not a good way of doing this, I think.

Either way, its getting late and I'm going to move on from all this, but thank you for the discussion. We clearly don't agree on the matter, but it's still interesting to hear from other points of view. If you were to take anything away from all of this, I guess my main point is that overly noisy / disruptive events calling attention to your group, especially when plagued by people that "overdo it" as you say, is just bad press. It's not a good way to make progress, and I really don't see how any of it helps. If anything, it does the opposite.

I'd also like to add, Brazil is also a place where people get internal organs stolen, so I can't really say violence against LGBT members is any more of an issue than anything else there.

Maybe the metro was blocked off due to concerns about bombing.

Reading the title I thought you meant something to do with an internet stream.

You being inconvenienced on a trip across town equals half a city hating gay people? That's quite a stretch.

Being annoyed at being held up is one thing, but you seem a little more upset than that, These are people protesting for their right to be who they are which may not seem important to you because you're not a part of their struggle.

You sound like either a bigot or a kid.

All big parades are annoying. I’m sure smiley cares about gays, but he doesn’t hate the people or the reason, he just hates the fact that there’s an absurdly large parade and that NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT.

You do know the title is a joke, right? And I'm not hating on gays for being who they are. I'm hating on the event for taking place at such an important place and being an inconvenience for so many people.

@smileyhead That's on the people who approved the event for not making the general public aware of when and where it was happening. There will be plenty who blame the participants of the event anyway, but those individuals need to ask themselves if they'd react the same way if it was just a sporting event or beerfest or something else slowing their travel instead.

My brother works for the city, and he hates every single parade equally, because he is part of the clean up crew. When my city won the Super Bowl, he pretty much said fuck that, and took a personal day off.