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Eeeeeveryone has beefs. I am no exception. And our beefs, are usually a reflection of our age.

I am not a 15 year old, so I can’t be expected to act like one :) but I have a 15 year old though, so I get to see what a current 15 year old is like in today’s world. That and I come here, and most of you guys are just children to me (25 doesn’t make you much different to a guy that’s pushing 50).

If asked to name your top 10 beefs, something has to go in the top slot. The rest are well, just the rest.
And as this is GBATemp, a gaming site, I might as well keep it to gaming beefs. Besides, I can’t complain about my parents, I’m an old man myself. And I don’t live in a bedroom, I control the entire home. I don’t have issues with my brother or sister. Brother is 50 and sister is 46. They’ve been adults for a long time.

So on with Panzer’s number 1 gaming beef.

I want to play my old bugger wargames on my PS3 damn it. Sure I know there are some shooters n stuff, but I’m talking about old bugger wargames. Board games of the 70s. I want to push virtual card board around on my 40inch HD TV screen. I want to sit with my PS3 controller in my lazy boy and enjoy my game in comfort. No, this relatively nice office chair really isn’t competition for a good lazy boy. And frankly I don’t need a high powered PC to play these games.

Check this out.

http://www.slitherine.com/games/mh_ceaw_gold_pc

Slitherine has managed to take what is effectively a board game, and made it a PC product, a PSP and DS product too. This is what I am talking about when I saying ‘pushing virtual card board’. It’s a wargame, it requires thought, lots of thought. There’s no cheat codes, and besides, cheating is just saying you are too damn stupid to win otherwise.

So why isn’t it on a major Console damn it?

Kids often whine about price. I routinely spend thousands of dollars every year. Bills, food, clothing, shelter. If I want to buy a game, and it is what I really want, saying ‘man that sucks, they want 100 bucks for it’ isn’t a factor. As an adult I actually CAN say ‘it’s just 100 bucks eh’.

The publishers are always saying ‘we can’t afford to do console’. Well if that’s true, how are they managing to afford PC titles? Surely by now they have to have realized we wargamers are not kids with no real money to spend. Go ahead, release the game for double the price. I couldn‘t care less if kids go ‘holy shit, they want 100 bucks for that game’. I don’t care if kids don’t buy it. Kids are not buying the PC titles either.

War in the Pacific Admiral’s Edition, a recent release from Matrix Games is about 100 bucks after taxes. This is the second iteration of the game. That means they have already sold this game for a couple of years also at 100 bucks after taxes. And the fans of the game are just eating it up. Picture trying to sell that to the teen crowd :)

Something tells me there is more to it than just thinking it is too expensive, because it’s not like wargamers are unwilling to spend.

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Isn't there really fast clicking and selection etc, something better suited to a PC with a mouse? Also the keyboard can be used for macros. I thought that's why games like that are kept on PC. I'm not too sure why there's a PSP version.
 
Speed means precisely nothing in a wargame.

You're thinking of click fest real time strategy titles (I find the name real time to be hilariously ludicrous). Those are not wargames any more than shooters are. Shooters are not wargames. They're arcade games. That's what we called quarter eating machines in the 80s at least.

Console controllers are all about controls being properly configured and nothing else. In any wargame, it's all about menus and activating them. Most of the time it is mouse over and either right or left mouse button selection process. Hardly what I call complicated.

The game works ok on the DS because touch sensitive controls mimic a mouse well. Not sure how the PSP was configured.
 
Obviously You have played the excellent Panzer Tactics but I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the other turn based strategy games on the DS. Have you played EndWar and if so, how did you find the game?
 
[quote name='Panzer Tacticer' post='2751268' date='Apr 12 2010, 04:14 PM']real time strategy titles (I find the name real time to be hilariously ludicrous)[/quote]When they say real-time, they mean that all the players are acting in real-time.
 
[quote name='BeatriceTheGolden' post='2751454' date='Apr 12 2010, 07:00 PM'][quote name='Panzer Tacticer' post='2751268' date='Apr 12 2010, 04:14 PM']real time strategy titles (I find the name real time to be hilariously ludicrous)[/quote]When they say real-time, they mean that all the players are acting in real-time.
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Yes Beatrice dear I understand this :) I might add I've been involved in game design before :)

Dudereno, actually there is a fairly good list of available turn employing games as options. Some clearly military some essentially RPG designs built around a turn based mode. I will try and get a list together to offer.
 
[quote name='Panzer Tacticer' post='2751887' date='Apr 13 2010, 03:17 AM']Dudereno, actually there is a fairly good list of available turn employing games as options. Some clearly military some essentially RPG designs built around a turn based mode. I will try and get a list together to offer.[/quote]

Yeah, I've played most of em. Age of empires, Advance Wars, Final Fantasy Tactics, CIv Rev Etc.. I'm just wondering what your thoughts were on the ones you have played. I've been playing and enjoying strategy games for a long long time, way back to the basic yet compelling titles found on the ZX81 computer.
 
[quote name='yuyuyup' post='2752273' date='Apr 13 2010, 02:22 AM']nothing on earth is worth 100 dollar[/quote]

Oh contraire :)

An item is only worth what the buyer is willing to spend. And I have seen so0me veeeery peculiar auctions on eBay.

If I could tell you, that the next 10 DS titles would be categorically fricking awesome, full of replay value, great graphics, and took a minimum of a solid month of constant hard core gaming just to play through once I dare say you'd likely pay MORE than is the current norm.

But as it stands, game that good are rare.
 

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