SFANS has changed their backers design into a dock without asking!

Discussion in 'Switch - Console, Accessories and Hardware' started by mech, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. linuxares

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    If it was a kickstarter project, this would be the difference. If they use kickstarter they have to deliver the product. This is why the scammers and nobodies go to Indiegogo.
     
  2. RedBlueGreen

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    Couldn't they still delay it and change the design though? So long as they actually do finish the product?
     
  3. B4rtj4h

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    Long live chinese producers and their copies! Already found a copy of the SFANS dongle for $18!
    Am I allowed to post the link here?
     
  4. RedBlueGreen

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    The dongle itself was literally just a rebranded smartphone dock.
     
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    Ah. The classic and most obvious example of a Bait and Switch.
     
  6. mech
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    Yes.
     
  7. RedBlueGreen

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    This isn't a bait and switch. All they did was change the design. It still functions the same way. And if anything people should be happy it's not just a rebranded smartphone dock.
     
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  8. KingVamp

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    I see this is going nowhere, but
    You keep saying this, but you already acknowledged that the functionally changed in at least one way.
    So you are just constantly contradicting yourself.
     
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  9. Futurdreamz

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    Still, i think it might be better to ask WHY they did so. I'm 90% sure they had a scare where they killed or thought they killed a Switch, realized that people are lazy and won't use the dock contraption all the time, and chose to redesign the dock to prevent from being sued. Nobody's going to say "guys our product is fundamentally flawed and will destroy your stuff, please don't demand refunds" so they probably hoped this quiet redesign would be enough.
     
  10. RedBlueGreen

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    It still does exactly what it's designed to do. It's a portable third party dock. It still allows you to hook up the Switch to a TV in dock mode. Whether or not the Switch can be laid flat while using it doesn't affect that. So the actual functionality isn't affected.
     
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    It was sold to let you sit your switch down flat, people who can’t fit a cradle dock under their tv purchase this for that very reason. I don’t understand why you can’t see that.
     
  12. B4rtj4h

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    OK Here it is :). May not look that fancy but it does exactly that wat the SFANS does.
    Click
     
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  13. RedBlueGreen

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    Just put it behind or beside the TV then. I have a hard time believing someone has literally zero space around or behind the TV if they have to plug in an HDMI cable. You could still lay down the Swith with a USB C cable anyway.
     
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  14. KingVamp

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    If they think people are too lazy to use the "dock contraption", what does that mean for their redesign? Not that a dock kept problems from happening.

    They provided a stand, that's on the people who chosen not to get it. The stand should be enough to avoid the possibility of being sued, but now they are looking to be sued because they are trying to change the design.
     
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    I'm a backer and I honestly like the change, it makes their product unique rather than a direct clone of C-Force CF001, and it might be the smallest Switch dock yet.
    And I did need a new dock or at least a new shell for my dock for home use anyway as the official dock is shit.
    They'll probably still ship the stands. They're useful for charging while playing in tabletop mode.
     
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    You can have mine then.
     
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    Wait, are you serious?
     
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    Lol none of us are going to get anything...
     
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    It wouldn't be the first time I backed something and never received it, but they seem to be making good progress so I have no reason to believe they won't deliver yet.
     
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    That's not entirely true.
    The terms do say
    ...But then goes on to say
    Looking over it, it looks pretty similar to Indiegogo's terms:
    Basically what it boils down to is this: They're required to make every effort possible to fulfill the rewards, and in the event that's not possible, make every effort possible to reach a satisfactory agreement with the backers. But shit happens, and in some cases it's just not possible to do either of those things. In the event that the project has to be cancelled because there's no way to continue, for example if they run out of money, not Kickstarter nor Indiegogo are going to do anything about it, and you've basically lost your money.
    That's the risk you're taking when backing any fundraiser, be it Kickstarter or Indiegogo.
     
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